| Kelly & Kane? 21:31 - Aug 19 with 4017 views | Philothesuperhoop |
I wonder whether Warbs’ comments about “individual errors” and the fact that he is banging on about competition for places means that we will see Kelly start in goal on Wed and Kane at full back? |  | | |  |
| Kelly & Kane? on 21:36 - Aug 19 with 3626 views | Hooparoo |
I think Kane will start to save Angel’s legs but you don’t drop a keeper after one mistake. Would shatter his confidence. |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 22:41 - Aug 19 with 3482 views | gazza1 |
Tough call to drop a player(Rangel) when you playing against his former club.....as for Lumley, another difficult call. but Kelly is Warburton's player.
Will be interesting to see what Warburton does. |  | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 01:43 - Aug 20 with 3308 views | Benny_the_Ball |
| Kelly & Kane? on 21:36 - Aug 19 by Hooparoo |
I think Kane will start to save Angel’s legs but you don’t drop a keeper after one mistake. Would shatter his confidence. |
It's 2 silly mistakes in 3 games from Lumley but fortunately we didn't get punished at Stoke. That said, I agree it's too early to drop him but he needs to up his game otherwise Warburton will pick Kelly.
Kane, I think, is a no brainer. Once he's fully fit he needs to be starting ahead of Rangel. [Post edited 20 Aug 2019 1:43]
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| Kelly & Kane? on 02:50 - Aug 20 with 3275 views | Hooparoo |
| Kelly & Kane? on 01:43 - Aug 20 by Benny_the_Ball |
It's 2 silly mistakes in 3 games from Lumley but fortunately we didn't get punished at Stoke. That said, I agree it's too early to drop him but he needs to up his game otherwise Warburton will pick Kelly.
Kane, I think, is a no brainer. Once he's fully fit he needs to be starting ahead of Rangel. [Post edited 20 Aug 2019 1:43]
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Agree. Rangel is a good one for the bench as he’s versatile enough to play anywhere in defence. Also a good one to come on late if we’re trying to hang on and need another leader on the pitch. | |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 09:00 - Aug 20 with 3100 views | RblockPrior |
For me Kane has to be our 1st choice at RB |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 10:47 - Aug 20 with 3001 views | smegma |
Do we really have to analyse every comment our manager makes ?? He was stating a fact. It doesn't mean Lumley is going to be dropped immediately FFS. For what it's worth, I believe Lumley is the best keeper we have, get behind him in every game he plays. | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 11:59 - Aug 20 with 2876 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Kelly & Kane? on 10:47 - Aug 20 by smegma |
Do we really have to analyse every comment our manager makes ?? He was stating a fact. It doesn't mean Lumley is going to be dropped immediately FFS. For what it's worth, I believe Lumley is the best keeper we have, get behind him in every game he plays. |
Go on, Smeg! |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 12:57 - Aug 20 with 2744 views | simmo |
Compeition for places is great and we have that in pretty much every position, but now we've got it, let's not manufacture an environment where every mistake should lead to a player being dropped/replaced every time, especially goalkeepers.
It's game 3 for Lumley who for every sliced clearance and missed catch, has also made goal saving tackles and 1-on-1 saves to sort other peoples mistakes in previous matches. He's also made good strides to improve his ball-playing skills based on what I've seen so far. A prolonged period of poor form and low confidence is one thing, but that's not what this is IMO.
Kane for me is 1st choice with Rangel back up RB, but he's obviously struggling for requisite fitness and despite looking brilliant going forward, I'd be interested to see how well he actually defends when needed. |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 13:17 - Aug 20 with 2669 views | ridethewave |
| Kelly & Kane? on 21:36 - Aug 19 by Hooparoo |
I think Kane will start to save Angel’s legs but you don’t drop a keeper after one mistake. Would shatter his confidence. |
I wouldn't drop him, but he's not only made one mistake. He's made one that resulted in a goal, others the past few games including the tail-end of last season he got away with frankly, including that flap away at Stoke which left a wide open goal with the ball only missing the inside of the post by inches.
He needs to cut these mistakes out or he will be dropped soon, as we know Warburton didn't sign Kelly to sit on the bench forever.
As for Kane that shouldn't even be a debate, I'm sure the intention is to start him when he's fit. [Post edited 20 Aug 2019 13:20]
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| Kelly & Kane? on 13:19 - Aug 20 with 2654 views | daveB |
Sooner or later he is going to drop Lumley and Manning for Kelly & Wallace, he's been talking those 2 up for a while now. I think Lumley will play tomorrow though |  | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 13:20 - Aug 20 with 2654 views | PinnerPaul |
| Kelly & Kane? on 10:47 - Aug 20 by smegma |
Do we really have to analyse every comment our manager makes ?? He was stating a fact. It doesn't mean Lumley is going to be dropped immediately FFS. For what it's worth, I believe Lumley is the best keeper we have, get behind him in every game he plays. |
Ignoring the specific players mentioned here, MW DID also say there would be '1 or 2 changes' tomorrow. | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 13:56 - Aug 20 with 2573 views | BuckR |
Not sure about Kelly but would think Kane and Chair are nailed on to start | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 14:00 - Aug 20 with 2564 views | PinnerPaul |
| Kelly & Kane? on 13:56 - Aug 20 by BuckR |
Not sure about Kelly but would think Kane and Chair are nailed on to start |
As I've had a bet on Chair to score anytime I hope you're correct! | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 16:15 - Aug 20 with 2421 views | LongsufferingR |
| Kelly & Kane? on 13:56 - Aug 20 by BuckR |
Not sure about Kelly but would think Kane and Chair are nailed on to start |
If that's the case, I'm looking forward to the match even more. Breathless even thinking about it! |  | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 23:20 - Aug 20 with 2186 views | smegma |
| Kelly & Kane? on 13:19 - Aug 20 by daveB |
Sooner or later he is going to drop Lumley and Manning for Kelly & Wallace, he's been talking those 2 up for a while now. I think Lumley will play tomorrow though |
If Wallace is ever fit ?? I don't think he's played yet | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 07:24 - Aug 21 with 2054 views | californiahoop |
| Kelly & Kane? on 12:57 - Aug 20 by simmo |
Compeition for places is great and we have that in pretty much every position, but now we've got it, let's not manufacture an environment where every mistake should lead to a player being dropped/replaced every time, especially goalkeepers.
It's game 3 for Lumley who for every sliced clearance and missed catch, has also made goal saving tackles and 1-on-1 saves to sort other peoples mistakes in previous matches. He's also made good strides to improve his ball-playing skills based on what I've seen so far. A prolonged period of poor form and low confidence is one thing, but that's not what this is IMO.
Kane for me is 1st choice with Rangel back up RB, but he's obviously struggling for requisite fitness and despite looking brilliant going forward, I'd be interested to see how well he actually defends when needed. |
Can’t add anything to this, well said! | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 07:59 - Aug 21 with 2008 views | Esox_Lucius |
IMO it wasn't even a Lumley mistake. I have watched it several times now and it looks as though the intention was for Angel to throw the ball ball to Barbet to back head it to Lumley's hands and when Barbet failed to get his head on it Lumley was badly positioned to kick it as he was expecting it into his hands. All on Rangel & Barbet for me. As Smeg said, Lumley is the best keeper we have and also our longest serving player so instead of looking to hang him out, how about getting behind him? |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 08:13 - Aug 21 with 1979 views | californiahoop |
| Kelly & Kane? on 07:59 - Aug 21 by Esox_Lucius |
IMO it wasn't even a Lumley mistake. I have watched it several times now and it looks as though the intention was for Angel to throw the ball ball to Barbet to back head it to Lumley's hands and when Barbet failed to get his head on it Lumley was badly positioned to kick it as he was expecting it into his hands. All on Rangel & Barbet for me. As Smeg said, Lumley is the best keeper we have and also our longest serving player so instead of looking to hang him out, how about getting behind him? |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 08:34 - Aug 21 with 1944 views | makaveli1882 |
| Kelly & Kane? on 23:20 - Aug 20 by smegma |
If Wallace is ever fit ?? I don't think he's played yet |
According to these stats the new Clint Hill played 52 minutes during the season 2018/19 season and 371 during the the 2017/18 season.
In total that is 423 minutes in 2 years and an average of 4.7 games in 2 years in a dire league .
Not looking forward to seeing him at all, exceptions levels for him are really high and I just don't understand why?
Give me Manning and Kane all day long. | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 08:45 - Aug 21 with 1930 views | makaveli1882 |
| Kelly & Kane? on 08:34 - Aug 21 by makaveli1882 |
According to these stats the new Clint Hill played 52 minutes during the season 2018/19 season and 371 during the the 2017/18 season.
In total that is 423 minutes in 2 years and an average of 4.7 games in 2 years in a dire league .
Not looking forward to seeing him at all, exceptions levels for him are really high and I just don't understand why?
Give me Manning and Kane all day long. |
https://fbref.com/en/players/c3a396e2/Lee-Wallace | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 10:10 - Aug 21 with 1869 views | rsonist |
| Kelly & Kane? on 08:34 - Aug 21 by makaveli1882 |
According to these stats the new Clint Hill played 52 minutes during the season 2018/19 season and 371 during the the 2017/18 season.
In total that is 423 minutes in 2 years and an average of 4.7 games in 2 years in a dire league .
Not looking forward to seeing him at all, exceptions levels for him are really high and I just don't understand why?
Give me Manning and Kane all day long. |
Does that tell the story? Double hernia in September 2017 ruled him out for the season and then he was frozen out after a dispute with the club. |  | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 11:41 - Aug 21 with 1802 views | EastR |
Kane will start, Kelly will not | |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 15:36 - Aug 21 with 1669 views | PinnerPaul |
| Kelly & Kane? on 07:59 - Aug 21 by Esox_Lucius |
IMO it wasn't even a Lumley mistake. I have watched it several times now and it looks as though the intention was for Angel to throw the ball ball to Barbet to back head it to Lumley's hands and when Barbet failed to get his head on it Lumley was badly positioned to kick it as he was expecting it into his hands. All on Rangel & Barbet for me. As Smeg said, Lumley is the best keeper we have and also our longest serving player so instead of looking to hang him out, how about getting behind him? |
Just to add, under new law amendment 1,023 this season, AFTER taking a swing at the ball, Lumley, if near enough , would have been able to pick the ball up.
One of the more bonkers law changes this season, but true nonetheless. | | | |
| Kelly & Kane? on 15:41 - Aug 21 with 1655 views | Mick_S |
| Kelly & Kane? on 15:36 - Aug 21 by PinnerPaul |
Just to add, under new law amendment 1,023 this season, AFTER taking a swing at the ball, Lumley, if near enough , would have been able to pick the ball up.
One of the more bonkers law changes this season, but true nonetheless. |
It's all too much for me to deal with. |  |
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| Kelly & Kane? on 15:55 - Aug 21 with 1636 views | PinnerPaul |
| Kelly & Kane? on 15:41 - Aug 21 by Mick_S |
It's all too much for me to deal with. |
They will all come up at some stage in our 46+ game season I'm sure.
Problem is players didn't know old laws so sure as hell won't know these new ones.
You can tell that already by the reaction of the Man City players to the disallowed goal and the reaction of most players everywhere whenever there is a drop ball! | | | |
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