| Available squad as it stands 19:35 - Jan 30 with 3755 views | dannyblue | Kelly Lumley Barnes Kane Rangel Hall Cameron Barbet Masterson Wallace Manning Ball Amos Smith BOS Shodipo Chair Clarke Eze Pugh Hugill 18 outfield players. OK Cameron and Manning can play a couple positions, but I have to admit I think it's a bit light, and even more so if Smith goes. Not least because Barbet, Rangel, Cameron and Shodipo have all had injury issues, and we're kind of due an injury to one of our young stars who've steered well clear so far (touch wood). I'd like to see a striker and a midfielder added tomorrow if possible. Even if it's just recalls for Smyth and Hamalainen (freeing Manning to play in the middle if needed). |  | | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:12 - Feb 1 with 852 views | Gloucs_R | Kelly Lumley Barnes Kane Rangel Kakay Hall Cameron Barbet Masterson Wallace Manning Nico Ball Amos BOS Shodipo Chair Clarke Eze Pugh Hugill Oteh I can see Manning being pushed back into a midfield role with Wallace as Left Back and Nico as cover. Still don't understand the Clarke loan. Also can see Hall moving back to a DM. 24 man squad |  |
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| Available squad as it stands on 08:20 - Feb 1 with 824 views | davman | Warburton has been going on about protecting his players and using the squad. No choice now. Run Hugill, Hall, Barbet, Rangel, Cameron into the ground as there are not many options left. I get the reasons, but this absolutely sucks. Before the season started you may have noticed I was a little worried. So pleasantly surprised how we started and how we are playing, then this window. As Clive said in his preview, individually each transaction is understandable, but collectively we look screwed right now. And the long term picture is that this is it guys. The point about our model is a conveyer belt of talent. When no-one comes in, the belt has stalled. I am now convinced that this season will end up being a blip of "success" in the same way that Stuart Wardley one was. If we are cutting this severely now, just imagine what we could actually afford as a League One club! We are hoping that we will become more competitive as no-one else will have any money next season. But if that is the case, who will buy our players? The Premiershite only has 20 teams and we will only sell to around 14 of them. The chance of getting a bidding war with more than one interested is a long shot and it is that long shot that we are banking the future of the club on. It all looked so good after those first two games this year... |  |
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| Available squad as it stands on 08:32 - Feb 1 with 791 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:12 - Feb 1 by MedwayR | I think you’re right. With our tight budget we need to move a few out to distribute funds towards players who are now our priorities. Who should be top earner, Leistner or Eze, we know the answer to that and that is what the club is probably working towards, keeping our most valuable assets happy and tied to contracts. As we’re unlikely to get into a relegation scrap it also makes sense to keep our powder dry for the summer and bank as much cash as possible whilst also giving opportunities to Oteh and maybe other youngsters. There are big decisions to be made in the summer, with the likes of Rangel, Cameron & Pugh, are they worth the money we’re currently paying them? Will Dieng, Smyth, Kakay, Hamalainen etc come into the squad or move on? |
Exciting isn’t it? If we can get £40m in transfer fees this summer or all three (by tying BOS and Manning in to contracts NOW) as opposed to half that if we fire-sell if we don’t tie them in, it could be a brilliant season next year and re-set QPRs place in the transfer market. Don’t forget, if this goes to plan, or we’ll be coming into money at the time that our Championship competitors are feeling the pinch of FFP. ...the planets could finally be aligning for QPR Rodney. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:46 - Feb 1 with 768 views | DejR_vu |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:32 - Feb 1 by Hastings_Hoops | Exciting isn’t it? If we can get £40m in transfer fees this summer or all three (by tying BOS and Manning in to contracts NOW) as opposed to half that if we fire-sell if we don’t tie them in, it could be a brilliant season next year and re-set QPRs place in the transfer market. Don’t forget, if this goes to plan, or we’ll be coming into money at the time that our Championship competitors are feeling the pinch of FFP. ...the planets could finally be aligning for QPR Rodney. |
I’m not sure selling your best players is exciting, particularly given our track record with recruitment. I’d personally find it more exciting if we were in a position to keep them and enjoy them but, of course, that’s not possible. If we can’t compete on the pitch we’ve become meaningless, there’s no point in existing. |  |
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| Available squad as it stands on 08:56 - Feb 1 with 746 views | Hastings_Hoops |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:46 - Feb 1 by DejR_vu | I’m not sure selling your best players is exciting, particularly given our track record with recruitment. I’d personally find it more exciting if we were in a position to keep them and enjoy them but, of course, that’s not possible. If we can’t compete on the pitch we’ve become meaningless, there’s no point in existing. |
If am excited that we are returning to true QPR routes, raising our own stars and playing them, then selling them to raise a new star, play them and sell them. It balances the books and if we can do it properly it gives us the luxury of remaining in our beautiful small ground a little longer without needing to rush and sell up or rely on generous owners covering our annual FFP permitted loss. ...I’m excited because we’re reverting to the Club I fell in love with. I posted elsewhere that Warburton (Hoos / Les) has my trust more than previous managers (eg Wilkins waste of the Ferdinand money / loss of Willo) in the transfer market. I’d put him there with Gerry Francis and Warnock in the market. Give him a proportion of say £40m, I’d like to see what he could do - he did pretty well with £40k last summer to be fair). I am also excited because we have stolen the march on our Championship competitors who will be feeling the pinch this summer! |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:14 - Feb 1 with 722 views | davman |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:56 - Feb 1 by Hastings_Hoops | If am excited that we are returning to true QPR routes, raising our own stars and playing them, then selling them to raise a new star, play them and sell them. It balances the books and if we can do it properly it gives us the luxury of remaining in our beautiful small ground a little longer without needing to rush and sell up or rely on generous owners covering our annual FFP permitted loss. ...I’m excited because we’re reverting to the Club I fell in love with. I posted elsewhere that Warburton (Hoos / Les) has my trust more than previous managers (eg Wilkins waste of the Ferdinand money / loss of Willo) in the transfer market. I’d put him there with Gerry Francis and Warnock in the market. Give him a proportion of say £40m, I’d like to see what he could do - he did pretty well with £40k last summer to be fair). I am also excited because we have stolen the march on our Championship competitors who will be feeling the pinch this summer! |
Thanks for posting the opposite viewpoint to mine... The thing about the 90s is that we went on a bit of a run of successes. Goalkeeper, central defenders, wingers and then the best QPR Striker in my life time all going for good money. Then, one season, just one season of poor spending, the loss of status (and form to a certain degree) meant that we no longer had saleable assets. Just one failed window bought it all to an end. Love your optimism and I really hope it goes that way, but we're not really that lucky as a club are we? Yes, we get bits of luck and good news - Faurlin resulting in no punishment, Bolton's inability to win the ultimate of must win games and then Zamora. But they were quickly followed by a disastrous take over, the sacking of Warnock and an intent to rip up the fantastic Championship team we had. Then Mark Hughesless to take us down followed by Redknapp - May have been different if he did the right thing and pissed off to give someone else a go... So, why is our luck going to change? As per another thread, football is shite these days, a'int it? |  |
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| Available squad as it stands on 09:15 - Feb 1 with 721 views | DejR_vu |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:56 - Feb 1 by Hastings_Hoops | If am excited that we are returning to true QPR routes, raising our own stars and playing them, then selling them to raise a new star, play them and sell them. It balances the books and if we can do it properly it gives us the luxury of remaining in our beautiful small ground a little longer without needing to rush and sell up or rely on generous owners covering our annual FFP permitted loss. ...I’m excited because we’re reverting to the Club I fell in love with. I posted elsewhere that Warburton (Hoos / Les) has my trust more than previous managers (eg Wilkins waste of the Ferdinand money / loss of Willo) in the transfer market. I’d put him there with Gerry Francis and Warnock in the market. Give him a proportion of say £40m, I’d like to see what he could do - he did pretty well with £40k last summer to be fair). I am also excited because we have stolen the march on our Championship competitors who will be feeling the pinch this summer! |
The key I think is “ if we can do it properly”. I’ve seen nothing to suggest we’re anywhere near capable of pulling it off. Time will tell, hope i’m wrong. I agree on Warburton, but he’s not a miracle woker, he can’t do it with both hands tied behind his back. I just don’t get the faith people have in the authorities with FFP. Birmingham got off lightly, their ‘punishment’ had no impact on them whatsoever, zero, zilch. Others (Derby, Sheffield Wednesday) are, understandably given what they’ve seen) taking the piss. We’ll be the only ones trying to comply whilst everyone else just laughs it off. |  |
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| Available squad as it stands on 09:25 - Feb 1 with 701 views | johnhoop |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:15 - Feb 1 by DejR_vu | The key I think is “ if we can do it properly”. I’ve seen nothing to suggest we’re anywhere near capable of pulling it off. Time will tell, hope i’m wrong. I agree on Warburton, but he’s not a miracle woker, he can’t do it with both hands tied behind his back. I just don’t get the faith people have in the authorities with FFP. Birmingham got off lightly, their ‘punishment’ had no impact on them whatsoever, zero, zilch. Others (Derby, Sheffield Wednesday) are, understandably given what they’ve seen) taking the piss. We’ll be the only ones trying to comply whilst everyone else just laughs it off. |
And then if we dared to overstep the bounds ourselves they’d come down on us like a ton of bricks. |  | |  | Login to get fewer ads
| Available squad as it stands on 09:35 - Feb 1 with 685 views | Hastings_Hoops | Sorry for hijacking the subject matter of this thread - I’ll pipe down after this post! I love the difference of opinion and that people can converse openly unlike some other hostile boards! The way I see it: Although in the 90’s we went down after one disaster of a transfer window in the 90’s it was the Chris Wright takeover that compounded our demise... a change of perspective and QPR (a selling club) sacking Ray when we were starting the season brightly, buying every shiny thing that came its way. Talk of a bigger and better stadium etc. It failed and we ended up in a financial pickle. For all their faults, Bernie and Briatori got us back in the Premiership on a ‘relatively’ sound financial basis as a business transaction - under the Chairmanship of Amit. When they sold up and Amit stepped back from being Chairman, lo and behold the new Chris Wright came in - full of good intentions but not understanding how a club like QPR should operate and buying every shiny thing that they could. It failed and we ended up in a financial pickle. Shoot me down for this, but I have been a regular at QPR between 1992-1996, 2002-2009 and 2018-now... there’s a subconscious pattern forming for me as to when I feel most engaged with the club. I expect that between 2010 and 2014 my seat was filled by a tourist. I’d love to see us back in the premier league but I would want us to do it right. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:37 - Feb 1 with 683 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:32 - Feb 1 by Hastings_Hoops | Exciting isn’t it? If we can get £40m in transfer fees this summer or all three (by tying BOS and Manning in to contracts NOW) as opposed to half that if we fire-sell if we don’t tie them in, it could be a brilliant season next year and re-set QPRs place in the transfer market. Don’t forget, if this goes to plan, or we’ll be coming into money at the time that our Championship competitors are feeling the pinch of FFP. ...the planets could finally be aligning for QPR Rodney. |
Not 'exciting' at all. We now have a very small squad for the rest of the season and a few major injuries to the likes of Hugill and Hall could give us real problems. Would've liked us to sign at least one young lower league player this window to show that we were following the 'buy cheap, develop, sell on for large profit': I see Brentford picked up a couple of Oxford players yesterday. And there really is NO evidence yet that the EFL are going to financially punish any of these big spending clubs so that they will 'feel the pinch of FFP'. So far there has been a couple of transfer window bans and a derisory points deduction which hasn't deterred anyone from spending. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:41 - Feb 1 with 676 views | dannyblue |
| Available squad as it stands on 08:12 - Feb 1 by Gloucs_R | Kelly Lumley Barnes Kane Rangel Kakay Hall Cameron Barbet Masterson Wallace Manning Nico Ball Amos BOS Shodipo Chair Clarke Eze Pugh Hugill Oteh I can see Manning being pushed back into a midfield role with Wallace as Left Back and Nico as cover. Still don't understand the Clarke loan. Also can see Hall moving back to a DM. 24 man squad |
Except Kakay and Nico are on loan in Scotland and haven’t been recalled. So 18 outfield players. Two injuries / suspensions and we’ll have gubbins on the bench. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:47 - Feb 1 with 655 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:41 - Feb 1 by dannyblue | Except Kakay and Nico are on loan in Scotland and haven’t been recalled. So 18 outfield players. Two injuries / suspensions and we’ll have gubbins on the bench. |
Kakay was recalled earlier in January I think. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:00 - Feb 1 with 628 views | dannyblue |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:47 - Feb 1 by Ned_Kennedys | Kakay was recalled earlier in January I think. |
Oh I didn’t see that. Quick search revealed some things saying he was still away, but the original loan was only to January. I didn’t see anything about his return. I’ve quite liked the little I’ve seen of him. I wonder if he’s kicked on in his time away. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:15 - Feb 1 with 605 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:00 - Feb 1 by dannyblue | Oh I didn’t see that. Quick search revealed some things saying he was still away, but the original loan was only to January. I didn’t see anything about his return. I’ve quite liked the little I’ve seen of him. I wonder if he’s kicked on in his time away. |
Seemed to be popular in Scotland. Big step up though to this but then when he’s competing with Kane there’s an obvious argument straight away for giving him a chance. Of what we have available today I’d go: Kelly Kakay/Kane Masterson Hall (only because he’s the only one left) Wallace Ball Manning BOS Eze Chair Hugill [Post edited 1 Feb 2020 10:15]
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| Available squad as it stands on 10:16 - Feb 1 with 597 views | dannyblue |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:15 - Feb 1 by Watford_Ranger | Seemed to be popular in Scotland. Big step up though to this but then when he’s competing with Kane there’s an obvious argument straight away for giving him a chance. Of what we have available today I’d go: Kelly Kakay/Kane Masterson Hall (only because he’s the only one left) Wallace Ball Manning BOS Eze Chair Hugill [Post edited 1 Feb 2020 10:15]
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Me too. Swapping Kelly for Lumley. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:19 - Feb 1 with 585 views | Watford_Ranger |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:16 - Feb 1 by dannyblue | Me too. Swapping Kelly for Lumley. |
Habit. I meant to type Kelly. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 10:22 - Feb 1 with 564 views | traininvain |
| Available squad as it stands on 20:59 - Jan 30 by Lblock | Weak as piss that squad Five wins needed Weren’t there positive noises about top 6 about 7 weeks ago? Gotta laugh!!! |
Definitely laugh at your annual ‘we’re going down’ post! We’ll be fine. |  | |  |
| Available squad as it stands on 14:23 - Feb 1 with 462 views | davman |
| Available squad as it stands on 09:35 - Feb 1 by Hastings_Hoops | Sorry for hijacking the subject matter of this thread - I’ll pipe down after this post! I love the difference of opinion and that people can converse openly unlike some other hostile boards! The way I see it: Although in the 90’s we went down after one disaster of a transfer window in the 90’s it was the Chris Wright takeover that compounded our demise... a change of perspective and QPR (a selling club) sacking Ray when we were starting the season brightly, buying every shiny thing that came its way. Talk of a bigger and better stadium etc. It failed and we ended up in a financial pickle. For all their faults, Bernie and Briatori got us back in the Premiership on a ‘relatively’ sound financial basis as a business transaction - under the Chairmanship of Amit. When they sold up and Amit stepped back from being Chairman, lo and behold the new Chris Wright came in - full of good intentions but not understanding how a club like QPR should operate and buying every shiny thing that they could. It failed and we ended up in a financial pickle. Shoot me down for this, but I have been a regular at QPR between 1992-1996, 2002-2009 and 2018-now... there’s a subconscious pattern forming for me as to when I feel most engaged with the club. I expect that between 2010 and 2014 my seat was filled by a tourist. I’d love to see us back in the premier league but I would want us to do it right. |
Of course, let us not forget thar Flabio and the Dwarf would not have been able to spend what they did on the Four Year Plan under the current FFP rules. That could have been our last chance to get back to the top table with any chance of staying there... |  |
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