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An Australian professor of Data Analytics from Griffith University who predicted Trump’s first win, the Australian Federal Election(when all the polls said the opposite) and Brexit has called it - Trump will be re-elected for another 4 years. You heard it here first.
I saw an interview just a few hours ago that also said that faithless electors are unlikely in this election. I'm pretty sure it never mentioned them in the article but it did say near the end of the piece that if Trump continues down the path he is going, the legal procedure and courts could reach a stalemate and there's no precedent to resolve it as it's never happened before. I thought that the legal system stopped at the Supreme Court and that's how Gore lost but apparently, that's not so. Quoting from a quarter of the way down the article:
"We have no precedent or procedure to end this election if Biden seems to carry the Electoral College but Trump refuses to concede. We will have to invent one."
The loophole in the system gives Trump the opportunity to steal the election but he needs to think long and hard about the price the country would pay if he does. His base will be victorious claiming that fraud was exposed and truth prevailed but the rest of the world, and especially the democrat voters, won't see it that way. I hope the courts throw all of his lawsuits out and his advisors can walk him back from the edge because if they can't, who knows how this ends as we've never been there before.
Not forgetting that any irregularities will fall both ways.
Come on Donald, we've all had a drink.
My guess is Trump's play is to suggest one tainted all tainted. So either all mail ballots in the state, or all ballots within certain (democrat leaning) counties.
I saw an interview just a few hours ago that also said that faithless electors are unlikely in this election. I'm pretty sure it never mentioned them in the article but it did say near the end of the piece that if Trump continues down the path he is going, the legal procedure and courts could reach a stalemate and there's no precedent to resolve it as it's never happened before. I thought that the legal system stopped at the Supreme Court and that's how Gore lost but apparently, that's not so. Quoting from a quarter of the way down the article:
"We have no precedent or procedure to end this election if Biden seems to carry the Electoral College but Trump refuses to concede. We will have to invent one."
The loophole in the system gives Trump the opportunity to steal the election but he needs to think long and hard about the price the country would pay if he does. His base will be victorious claiming that fraud was exposed and truth prevailed but the rest of the world, and especially the democrat voters, won't see it that way. I hope the courts throw all of his lawsuits out and his advisors can walk him back from the edge because if they can't, who knows how this ends as we've never been there before.
I’ll have to read it again but my interpretation is the faithless electors angle is the main route left for Trump and it’s been debunked elsewhere. I thought the article was interesting in parts but long on rhetoric and short on facts to justify its premise.
Honestly don’t think it’s a serious concern, particularly given the margin of Biden’s victory across a number of states.
I’ll have to read it again but my interpretation is the faithless electors angle is the main route left for Trump and it’s been debunked elsewhere. I thought the article was interesting in parts but long on rhetoric and short on facts to justify its premise.
Honestly don’t think it’s a serious concern, particularly given the margin of Biden’s victory across a number of states.
I'm not sure that the margin of victory matters, if you can get people to believe 1 dead person voted, it won't be hard to get them to believe that 50k dead people voted. Where's the cut-off for what's plausible in something that's entirely made up and without evidence?
I'm not sure that the margin of victory matters, if you can get people to believe 1 dead person voted, it won't be hard to get them to believe that 50k dead people voted. Where's the cut-off for what's plausible in something that's entirely made up and without evidence?
Not doubting that his supporters will believe the claims. But I can’t see the courts ruling in his favour without real evidence of voter fraud on a scale big enough to overturn the election results in at least a few states. This seems unlikely as courts require concrete evidence as opposed to the hearsay and misinformation Trump’s spreading online.
I still think this is more about Trump’s ego and disputing the result will allow him to walk away without conceding with his reputation intact amongst his supporters for another run in 2024 and / or some kind of Trump tv channel or show.
The internet / social media is too advanced for large sections of society. It’s too easy to manipulate people with misinformation and it’s going to result in major conflicts.
The internet / social media is too advanced for large sections of society. It’s too easy to manipulate people with misinformation and it’s going to result in major conflicts.
Biden has already indicated he wants to censor the internet, so expect to see a lot more of these pieces in the media.
Currently stripping out the top level of execs from defence
"There's no non-disturbing explanation for removing the entire Pentagon civilian leadership and replacing them with a bunch of Trump acolytes during a lame duck presidency."
To answer a previous question, I think continuing with court cases that are bound to fail are a smoke screen to his base to say "look! Loads of court cases! no smoke without fire!" and the fake social media push loads of info about fraudulent voting to back it up.
So was this Russia's plan all along? To turn the USA into a dictatorship? China, Russia and USA are the three most powerful countries in the world and if Trump isn't stopped, they will be run by dictators....and we were worried about Covid!
What's also worrying is that if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have won easily. There is something rotten at the core of the USA and if his plans fail now, he'll be back in 2024 to right the wrongs of the "Biden crime family" and no legal means will be able to stop him.
I think I had about 24 hours of thinking "Thank fck for that!" when Biden was called but heaven knows I'm miserable now...where's my daffodil.
Trump has a mountain of debt. Will he be able to afford to run again in 2024 as I'm sure the debtors will be after him once he's out of office. Even if one of his offspring runs, it'll be obvious they'll just be puppets with him pulling the strings.
"Overheard someone saying they messed up with the dates of the ballot".
Sounds like a deliberate act of vote tampering to me, all the best conspiracies are discussed in open with people around to overhear and run to the media.
Let's hope the only reason the GOP are behind Trump is their need to win the runoffs in Georgia but as they aren't until Jan' 5th, a lot can happen between now and then.
"There's no non-disturbing explanation for removing the entire Pentagon civilian leadership and replacing them with a bunch of Trump acolytes during a lame duck presidency."
To answer a previous question, I think continuing with court cases that are bound to fail are a smoke screen to his base to say "look! Loads of court cases! no smoke without fire!" and the fake social media push loads of info about fraudulent voting to back it up.
So was this Russia's plan all along? To turn the USA into a dictatorship? China, Russia and USA are the three most powerful countries in the world and if Trump isn't stopped, they will be run by dictators....and we were worried about Covid!
What's also worrying is that if it wasn't for Covid, Trump would have won easily. There is something rotten at the core of the USA and if his plans fail now, he'll be back in 2024 to right the wrongs of the "Biden crime family" and no legal means will be able to stop him.
I think I had about 24 hours of thinking "Thank fck for that!" when Biden was called but heaven knows I'm miserable now...where's my daffodil.
Lol I’ll have what you’re having. Seems like a whole lot of doom and gloom for nothing. Trump will be exiting stage left soon enough. He’s just being a baby rattling some sabers. Yawn. I get a real sense of fatigue occurring over here amongst his “loyal” supporters. I know many who voted for him, including myself would much rather him just leave with class and dignity, but that was never going to happen regardless.
I believe your already starting to see his inner circle starting to crumble. Not comparing the two guys at all, but I just can’t quit imagining trump all burrowed into the situation room like in those hitler reacts videos that were all the rage 5-10 years ago on YouTube.
Happy Veterans Day to all who have served in the past and currently serve. I am very thankful for the blanket of freedom in which they provide.
Let's hope the only reason the GOP are behind Trump is their need to win the runoffs in Georgia but as they aren't until Jan' 5th, a lot can happen between now and then.
Not exactly a foolproof strategy given the GOP did better than expected in the senate/house which suggests that many republicans voted Biden/independent/anti Trump and GOP down ballot.
It’s a delicate balance for the GOP as they don’t want to lose Trump supporters so have to be seen to let him exhaust legal challenges. Once that’s done and dusted let’s see if their stance changes.
Interesting to see CincyHoop’s post which I suspect reflects the mood of most Republicans voters (aside from the hardcore Trump fanatics). Does the average republican really have the appetite for a Trump dictatorship and potential conflict/civil war over a dubiously contested election result?
No offence CincyHoop but your opening words were "I'm not qualified or educated, (enough) or passionate enough about this stuff to really give my opinion. but now you are giving it the big Yawn and Lol's.
I'm an outside observer so I haven't been influenced by the sort of things that influence you, such as family, locals and whatever media you are comfortable with. To those outside of the US bubble, what has been happening for the last 4 years has been nothing short of astonishing but it's probably harder to see when it's closer to home. There are many video running down Trump's 100 worst moments/scandals but you will not have seen them because it's all fake news and that's how he keeps his base blind to what he's been doing.
I hope you are right and that his support will dwindle away until he's the only one left banging the Fraud drum but his actions of the last couple of days suggest he's doubling down and pushing ahead to steal the election. Trump said himself in 2016 that he would accept the result of the election...if he won so how anyone is surprised he hasn't accepted it is really the shocker here.
Coffee, white with half a spoon of sugar. Not sure it's helping though.
Not exactly a foolproof strategy given the GOP did better than expected in the senate/house which suggests that many republicans voted Biden/independent/anti Trump and GOP down ballot.
It’s a delicate balance for the GOP as they don’t want to lose Trump supporters so have to be seen to let him exhaust legal challenges. Once that’s done and dusted let’s see if their stance changes.
Interesting to see CincyHoop’s post which I suspect reflects the mood of most Republicans voters (aside from the hardcore Trump fanatics). Does the average republican really have the appetite for a Trump dictatorship and potential conflict/civil war over a dubiously contested election result?
Someone mentioned earlier that 70% of Republican voters think there's something dodgy with the vote. With that kind of backing Trump is empowered to push on but the odd thing is, some of the rally going Trump supporters were screaming at the camera for everyone to vote Trump to save democracy because Biden wanted to turn the country into Socialist republic...oh the irony.
No offence CincyHoop but your opening words were "I'm not qualified or educated, (enough) or passionate enough about this stuff to really give my opinion. but now you are giving it the big Yawn and Lol's.
I'm an outside observer so I haven't been influenced by the sort of things that influence you, such as family, locals and whatever media you are comfortable with. To those outside of the US bubble, what has been happening for the last 4 years has been nothing short of astonishing but it's probably harder to see when it's closer to home. There are many video running down Trump's 100 worst moments/scandals but you will not have seen them because it's all fake news and that's how he keeps his base blind to what he's been doing.
I hope you are right and that his support will dwindle away until he's the only one left banging the Fraud drum but his actions of the last couple of days suggest he's doubling down and pushing ahead to steal the election. Trump said himself in 2016 that he would accept the result of the election...if he won so how anyone is surprised he hasn't accepted it is really the shocker here.
Coffee, white with half a spoon of sugar. Not sure it's helping though.
Fair play! I can’t argue with anything you said and I still stand behind those claims of not being educated enough. I wasn’t taking a swipe at you at all, just seemed a bit Draconian from my viewpoint. There are some of my friends who were still banging the trump drum last week. Im not sure what happened, but they were singing a different tune on Monday. Still a few holdouts, but the tide is changing, thankfully.
But all is fair, and I appreciate your response!
I’m about to head off to grab a coffee myself, large black, no sugar or cream.
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