| Labour vote with the Tories 17:32 - Dec 30 with 3952 views | trampie |
Plaid, SNP and Lib-Dems vote against Tory Brexit, Labour vote with the Conservatives. |  |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:35 - Dec 30 with 3119 views | trampie |
Liz Saville Roberts speaks, the deal is a bad deal for Wales.. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:36 - Dec 30 with 3117 views | trampie |
Gower MP resigns. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:36 - Dec 30 with 3115 views | Lohengrin |
Had Starmer opposed do you think Labour could have managed to retain even the shred of relevance it still has outside of metropolitan London and Student Union bars? |  |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:39 - Dec 30 with 3101 views | trampie |
SNP call it a sh*t sandwich which in Scottish is apparently a steaming mug of excrement. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:46 - Dec 30 with 3087 views | Joe_bradshaw |
There were two options here, either vote for the deal or defeat it and have a no deal Brexit.
Interesting that PC and the SNP preferred no deal to the deal on offer. |  |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:47 - Dec 30 with 3082 views | NotLoyal |
Scumbags voting against it. Sometimes ... |  |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:48 - Dec 30 with 3078 views | trampie |
Caroline Lucas of the Greens say the deal doesn't have consent of British people. [Post edited 30 Dec 2020 17:54]
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:49 - Dec 30 with 3072 views | Lohengrin |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:46 - Dec 30 by Joe_bradshaw |
There were two options here, either vote for the deal or defeat it and have a no deal Brexit.
Interesting that PC and the SNP preferred no deal to the deal on offer. |
Are you trying to suggest that Plaid adopt positions without thinking them through to a logical conclusion?   | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:51 - Dec 30 with 3064 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:49 - Dec 30 by Lohengrin |
Are you trying to suggest that Plaid adopt positions without thinking them through to a logical conclusion? |
Typical Plaid.
What do you want? English fresh Apples or rancid oranges.
Pears please.
They’re not on the menu.
Rancid oranges then. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:51 - Dec 30 with 3060 views | trampie |
Wirral Lib-Dems tweet showing their man is concerned about British jobs, blydi hell there is no passion at all in those Lib-Dem types, lol, talk about wet lettuce's, show a bit of hywl and get into for goodness sake. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:53 - Dec 30 with 3047 views | Lohengrin |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:51 - Dec 30 by Joe_bradshaw |
Typical Plaid.
What do you want? English fresh Apples or rancid oranges.
Pears please.
They’re not on the menu.
Rancid oranges then. |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 18:09 - Dec 30 with 3017 views | onehunglow |
No sensible option really apart from disaster which is what the MP for Gower seems to prefer. A rare case of opposition supporting what is really best for all. PC and The SNP are an utter irrelevance and outside Wales rather embarrasing.
Shameful. |  |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 18:53 - Dec 30 with 2986 views | pikeypaul |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:36 - Dec 30 by trampie |
Gower MP resigns. |
She got voted in on a manifesto of honoring the result and democracy and delivering Brexit,something she turned her back on the moment she got in ,another lying remoaner picking up close on £100k a year after lying her way in.Tried to contact her office today,but told its closed until 4th January,nice"work" if you can get it.
Maybe now shes shown the world shes a lying hypocrite she will do the decent thing and really resign,and not just from the token post she has from.
Anyway shes totally irrelevant in parliament now Bojo kicked labours arse last election and got us out with a deal,cake and eat it ,thank you very much.could have been better but ill settle for it.
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 19:00 - Dec 30 with 2981 views | Catullus |
Liz Saville-Roberts says the UK Parliament having a vote on the future relationship with the EU is a mockery of sovereignty?
As Lohengrin says, would she prefer to leave with no deal. The SNP were always going to hate it, they want to quit the UK and go running cap in hand to the EU anyway.
I don't think it's Labour voting "with" anybody, they just voted yes to the deal because, obviously, its this deal or no deal and this deal is the better choice.
Caroline Lucas, another irrelevant politician. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 19:57 - Dec 30 with 2957 views | majorraglan |
The SNP and PC want something that’s not on the table. It may be that whatever deal we have will not be as good as the deal we had, but that ship has sailed and the choice was straight forward, accept Boris deal or vote for No deal, there was no other choice. It’s just posturing, SNP and PC have the moral high ground if it goes Pete Tong, but nothing if all goes well.
Wales did ok out of Europe, better than some parts, but the ship has sailed and Drakers now needs to focus on getting the best for Wales. | | | |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 21:06 - Dec 30 with 2923 views | pencoedjack |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 17:51 - Dec 30 by Joe_bradshaw |
Typical Plaid.
What do you want? English fresh Apples or rancid oranges.
Pears please.
They’re not on the menu.
Rancid oranges then. |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 21:58 - Dec 30 with 2902 views | felixstowe_jack |
Supporting the referendum result was labour's policy. Well done labour for doing the right thing. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 22:03 - Dec 30 with 2897 views | controversial_jack |
No side wanted a no deal Brexit, however bad this one is. | | | |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 22:07 - Dec 30 with 2892 views | builthjack |
Any decent party would have sorted a reasonable deal a few years ago. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 22:53 - Dec 30 with 2859 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 22:07 - Dec 30 by builthjack |
Any decent party would have sorted a reasonable deal a few years ago. |
A good deal within 11 months of being elected is some achievement.
Pity Corbyn's labour spent 3 years voting against any deal. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 23:06 - Dec 30 with 2852 views | builthjack |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 22:53 - Dec 30 by felixstowe_jack |
A good deal within 11 months of being elected is some achievement.
Pity Corbyn's labour spent 3 years voting against any deal. |
The usual. Blame Labour.
Is the deal a good one? We don't know.
Three and a half years to get it. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 23:08 - Dec 30 with 2849 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 23:06 - Dec 30 by builthjack |
The usual. Blame Labour.
Is the deal a good one? We don't know.
Three and a half years to get it. |
Only 11 months well done the conservatives and starmer for supporting it.
About time the remoaners accepted the result of the referendum and work for the UK future. | |
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 04:12 - Dec 31 with 2815 views | Glyn1 |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 23:06 - Dec 30 by builthjack |
The usual. Blame Labour.
Is the deal a good one? We don't know.
Three and a half years to get it. |
"Is the deal a good one? We don't know."
Well, actually we do know - economically it's a terrible deal, but everyone always knew that. The Brexit supporters knew that the country would take an economic hit but thought that that was a price worth paying to get out of the EU.
Sure, Boris and others said that because of it we would get an extra £350 million a month to spend on the NHS - what happened to that? They lied.
I work in the financial services in the business district in London (about a 10 minute walk from the Bank of England) and everyone is saying the same thing. This country now mainly relies on the service industry rather than manufacturing (finance, law etc. and those were ignored in the settlement so those will now have tariffs and restrictions - my own company is trying to find out how many of our lawyers can get dual nationality Irish passports). Everyone is saying the same thing, firms aren't closing down their operations in the UK but are no longer expanding them, and a lot of moving to new offices has been cancelled, but they are quietly expanding instead in Berlin, Frankfurt and Dublin. But hey, it's a price worth paying for whatever the f*ck people thought they were voting for. [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 4:16]
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| Labour vote with the Tories on 06:03 - Dec 31 with 2793 views | FieryJack |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 04:12 - Dec 31 by Glyn1 |
"Is the deal a good one? We don't know."
Well, actually we do know - economically it's a terrible deal, but everyone always knew that. The Brexit supporters knew that the country would take an economic hit but thought that that was a price worth paying to get out of the EU.
Sure, Boris and others said that because of it we would get an extra £350 million a month to spend on the NHS - what happened to that? They lied.
I work in the financial services in the business district in London (about a 10 minute walk from the Bank of England) and everyone is saying the same thing. This country now mainly relies on the service industry rather than manufacturing (finance, law etc. and those were ignored in the settlement so those will now have tariffs and restrictions - my own company is trying to find out how many of our lawyers can get dual nationality Irish passports). Everyone is saying the same thing, firms aren't closing down their operations in the UK but are no longer expanding them, and a lot of moving to new offices has been cancelled, but they are quietly expanding instead in Berlin, Frankfurt and Dublin. But hey, it's a price worth paying for whatever the f*ck people thought they were voting for. [Post edited 31 Dec 2020 4:16]
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What a relief to hear a different perspective, and thanks for making my breakfast reading a little less gloomy.
But this kind of nuts-and-bolts reality won't wash with the airy-fairy nationalists and xenophobes like Pikeyprick on here. |  | | |
| Labour vote with the Tories on 07:07 - Dec 31 with 2777 views | trampie |
It was only Labour and Conservatives voted for the deal, all the other parties voted against, N.Ireland and Scotland parliaments have both come out against the deal. | |
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