| Forest. 17:23 - Aug 21 with 16856 views | ted_hendrix |
WTF is happening up there? I know It's early doors in the season and all that but they have a huge playing squad and zero points.
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| Forest. on 15:41 - May 30 with 2169 views | Northernr |
| Forest. on 15:34 - May 30 by PinnerPaul |
I thought the play was stopped because he was 'injured'. Therefore as the game was stopped, you can make the sub. IF game stopped with the ball in the penalty area, which it was, then its always a drop ball to the keeper.
Anything I've missed there? |
I just thought it had to go dead/out to make the sub, or a free kick. Didn't know you could sub and restart with a drop ball. |  | | |
| Forest. on 15:43 - May 30 with 2150 views | PinnerPaul |
OK I can take it - how about this for 'improving' the standard of referees. This is true btw, not some wind up - should be confirmed in the next day or two.
Current active referee levels run form 7 up to 1, with some banding at the top around levels 1 & 2.
BUT wait, the new idea is to call 7, 5(c), 6, 5 (b) and 5, 5(a).
To add a punchline to the comedy, the 'computer' can't cope with that next season so the bands will be known as 7(5c), 6(5b) and 5(5a).
OK now you've stopped laughing, the reason is to supposedly make it easier to get from 7 - 4 (The semi professional level) where at that level and above, as mentioned, there is a chronic shortage.
They are also making promotion between the levels 5c - 5a 'easier' by having less match observations, less stringent criteria around type of games and timescales and moving all the 'learning' and LOTG exam on line.
I get its to get numbers up, but isn't that just going to lead to a whole host of referees getting promoted to level 4 when they are not ready for it?!
As Marge Simpson would say "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" |  | | |
| Forest. on 15:45 - May 30 with 2124 views | Northernr |
| Forest. on 15:43 - May 30 by PinnerPaul |
OK I can take it - how about this for 'improving' the standard of referees. This is true btw, not some wind up - should be confirmed in the next day or two.
Current active referee levels run form 7 up to 1, with some banding at the top around levels 1 & 2.
BUT wait, the new idea is to call 7, 5(c), 6, 5 (b) and 5, 5(a).
To add a punchline to the comedy, the 'computer' can't cope with that next season so the bands will be known as 7(5c), 6(5b) and 5(5a).
OK now you've stopped laughing, the reason is to supposedly make it easier to get from 7 - 4 (The semi professional level) where at that level and above, as mentioned, there is a chronic shortage.
They are also making promotion between the levels 5c - 5a 'easier' by having less match observations, less stringent criteria around type of games and timescales and moving all the 'learning' and LOTG exam on line.
I get its to get numbers up, but isn't that just going to lead to a whole host of referees getting promoted to level 4 when they are not ready for it?!
As Marge Simpson would say "Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" |
The guy who refereed Wrexham Grimsby at the weekend should not be moving anywhere, (c) or no (c). | | | |
| Forest. on 15:53 - May 30 with 2075 views | themodfather |
florets promoted? shows what 50 chairman, 100s of players, dozens of managers and ££££££££millions spent can get you.
they will be back down in time too play their derby v DERBY very soon | | | |
| Forest. on 17:17 - May 30 with 1942 views | PinnerPaul |
Quick Ref Chat count up
1st - 3 for Pen, 3 for no No Pen
2nd - 7 for pen, none for no pen.
Mixed on the simulation, most thought the theatrical dive is what cost him the pen, some go for yellow, some no.
All think 2nd a pen, but several point to the clear and obvious malarkey that Clive has critiqued very well already! | | | |
| Forest. on 17:34 - May 30 with 1874 views | PinnerPaul |
| Forest. on 15:41 - May 30 by Northernr |
I just thought it had to go dead/out to make the sub, or a free kick. Didn't know you could sub and restart with a drop ball. |
During any 'stoppage' LOTG says - I just checked to be sure! | | | |
| Forest. on 17:43 - May 30 with 1852 views | PinnerPaul |
| Forest. on 14:35 - May 30 by QPR_John |
Why does VAR have a protocol? The answer is simple it’s designed so that any decision made by the referee or VAR can be justified by reference to this protocol to show it is the right decision |
See where you're coming from but a few reasons for the (overly complicated) protocol.
Firstly PGMOL were going to ignore the monitor part, with the referee just taking the VAR's word for it. Three problems with that - it ignores IFAB's LOTG, secondly, naive in the extreme to expect every PGMOL to trust every other PGMOL referee THAT much and thirdly goes against the principle of 'one ref' making the decisions - again that's in the LOTG.
Very quickly that was dropped for the equally flawed system of VAR asking the referee to review practically anything they didn't agree with - as I said above, that doesn't work in a game based on opinions - hence you had the ball brushing the arm called handball, the most minimal contact you can imagine being called a penalty, but much more robust challenges elsewhere being allowed.
Sooooo we get to where we are now, where only clear and obvious errors can be reviewed, except offsides of course, where despite the actual moment the ball is played a teammate showing as a white blur, 1mm offside IS apparently possible!
For the 100th time, its a " No" from me! | | | |
| Forest. on 18:08 - May 30 with 1811 views | OldPedro |
I actually don't think VAR should have been available at the playoff final as it wasn't used at any other point during the Championship season.
And it sort of summed up the whole season that the playoff final contained a couple of 'controversial' decisions. |  |
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| Forest. on 20:32 - May 30 with 1670 views | ngbqpr |
| Forest. on 17:17 - May 30 by PinnerPaul |
Quick Ref Chat count up
1st - 3 for Pen, 3 for no No Pen
2nd - 7 for pen, none for no pen.
Mixed on the simulation, most thought the theatrical dive is what cost him the pen, some go for yellow, some no.
All think 2nd a pen, but several point to the clear and obvious malarkey that Clive has critiqued very well already! |
I agree. Toffolo's mistake was starting his dive too early, so he was airborne and thus actually went over Colback's lazily stuck out leg - a split second later and he'd have got the contact he was after. Arguably serves him right.
Second one, can't see how not given. |  |
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| Forest. on 22:40 - May 30 with 1537 views | slmrstid |
I have nothing relevant to actually contribute to this thread, other than to say everytime I see PinnerPaul reference RefChat on this forum it makes me think its the Referees internet equivalent of MumsNet. |  | | |
| Forest. on 08:20 - May 31 with 1363 views | enfieldargh |
| Forest. on 22:40 - May 30 by slmrstid |
I have nothing relevant to actually contribute to this thread, other than to say everytime I see PinnerPaul reference RefChat on this forum it makes me think its the Referees internet equivalent of MumsNet. |
Might be seeing a yellow card flashing in your direction |  |
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| Forest. on 10:24 - May 31 with 1211 views | TheChef |
| Forest. on 18:08 - May 30 by OldPedro |
I actually don't think VAR should have been available at the playoff final as it wasn't used at any other point during the Championship season.
And it sort of summed up the whole season that the playoff final contained a couple of 'controversial' decisions. |
Er, indeed.
Why was it even used in the first place when it hadn't been used in the same competition all season?
What a joke. |  |
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| Forest. on 15:20 - May 31 with 1049 views | PinnerPaul |
| Forest. on 22:40 - May 30 by slmrstid |
I have nothing relevant to actually contribute to this thread, other than to say everytime I see PinnerPaul reference RefChat on this forum it makes me think its the Referees internet equivalent of MumsNet. |
Unsurprisingly I have never been on Mumsnet so really have no idea!  | | | |
| Forest. on 15:22 - May 31 with 1029 views | PinnerPaul |
| Forest. on 10:24 - May 31 by TheChef |
Er, indeed.
Why was it even used in the first place when it hadn't been used in the same competition all season?
What a joke. |
Have to agree.
Its the same in the cup comps, really do think it can't be right that VAR used in one game but not in any replay or vice versa.
Happens less now with less replays but still applies within competitions all the time. | | | |
| Forest. on 21:51 - May 31 with 833 views | CiderwithRsie |
| Forest. on 15:45 - May 30 by Northernr |
The guy who refereed Wrexham Grimsby at the weekend should not be moving anywhere, (c) or no (c). |
Is there going to be a Right (c) rating? Got a few nominees. | | | |
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