| Dieng 08:27 - Nov 10 with 7310 views | Northernr |
Has the plague. Not travelling with Senegal. Or at least that's what it seems if my GCSE French isn't letting me down.
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| Dieng on 22:16 - Nov 10 with 2430 views | Boston |
| Dieng on 09:19 - Nov 10 by RamseyR |
I know it was only a pre season at Cambridge, but I remember coming away thinking Archer looked ok. Can't judge a player on one game though |
Well thank god we have another bow in our quiver. |  |
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| Dieng on 07:10 - Nov 11 with 2197 views | dmm |
| Dieng on 22:16 - Nov 10 by Boston |
Well thank god we have another bow in our quiver. |
That's where you keep your arrows not your bow. |  | | |
| Dieng on 07:15 - Nov 11 with 2191 views | distortR |
| Dieng on 07:10 - Nov 11 by dmm |
That's where you keep your arrows not your bow. |
I won't bow to anyone. | | | |
| Dieng on 07:16 - Nov 11 with 2189 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Presuming not for patriotic reasons, why has he chosen Senegal over Switzerland by the way? Early career mistake or deliberate I wonder? |  | | |
| Dieng on 07:19 - Nov 11 with 2185 views | dmm |
| Dieng on 07:15 - Nov 11 by distortR |
I won't bow to anyone. |
arrow, arrow, arrow... | | | |
| Dieng on 07:49 - Nov 11 with 2147 views | Mick_S |
| Dieng on 07:19 - Nov 11 by dmm |
arrow, arrow, arrow... |
Middle, Middle, Middle… |  |
| Did I ever mention that I was in Minder? |
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| Dieng on 08:51 - Nov 11 with 2077 views | TheChef |
| Dieng on 16:25 - Nov 10 by francisbowles |
He needs to do something about his penalty attempts. In the Everton shootout, he went to his left six times out of eight (the same way he went on Saturday). I can't recall the one that he saved that was retaken, which wasn't on the highlights that I have just rewatched. I can't remember the other ones that he has faced, only that like his predecessor, he didn't get near any of them. (bar one in Lumley's case, I think)
I've never been a keeper but that seems a bit predictable to me. He never seems to stand and wait, he is often bouncing up and down and seems more interested in trying to put the opponent off rather than setting himself. He also seems to dive very low so if he does go the right way the ball goes over him.
Just rewatched the Sunderland ones and he seems to wait a bit longer but is sent the wrong way with the first two, he goes to the right on these and on the third and final one he goes the right way, to his left, but he isn't really set when it's taken and although he gets a hand to it, it still beats him.
It's as if the opponents can predict what he prefers to do. It seems like we need to get our keepers some specialist coaching in this area. |
He should give Alex Smithies a bell.
But yes, like any skill you'd think with practice it's something you can improve on. |  |
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| Dieng on 10:22 - Nov 11 with 2013 views | francisbowles |
| Dieng on 18:29 - Nov 10 by distortR |
I thought I was the only one who thought it wasn't a penalty. |
I've dithered a bit on this. He didn't pull the man down he turned as the ball went past him and there was a coming together, although he did instinctively put his arm out. The opponent made the most of it. By the norm of decisions today, probably a penalty but never a red.
As I said on another thread there was a similar incident, probably more of a holding arm on Dykes, a bit later in the same game. Dykes appealed but the referee had an expression of really! It seems different standards apply if it's an attacker/defender than an attacker/goalkeeper. Why? A foul is a foul. | | | |
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| Dieng on 14:47 - Nov 11 with 1900 views | PinnerPaul |
Nope - the referee's....................as per. | | | |
| Dieng on 13:18 - Nov 12 with 1608 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dieng on 19:53 - Nov 10 by Superhoops2808 |
Incorrect (And I thought you knew everything)
You can.
What has changed, is the rule which said that certain offences carried an AUTOMATIC red card, if they prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.
It was decided that this constitutes double jeopardy, meaning two punishments for the same crime, and sometimes for quite a trivial crime. So a penalty is deemed to be enough punishment, and the foul is treated on it's merits according to the severity of the offence. Which may mean a red card, but most often not.
So in this instance, Dieng made a lame attempt to get the ball so it was a yellow. But had he made no attempt and hauled him down it would have been a Red AND a Penalty.
Sure Pinner will be along with the finer details of the law |
Can't agree there I'm afraid.
It wasn't an attempt for the ball, WAS an obvious gs opportunity, but as I said on another thread, attacker didn't have control of the ball and was moving away from goal, so therefore not a red.
Its not simply 'last man' as most pundits say! [Post edited 12 Nov 2021 13:18]
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| Dieng on 13:47 - Nov 12 with 1523 views | gazza1 |
| Dieng on 13:18 - Nov 12 by PinnerPaul |
Can't agree there I'm afraid.
It wasn't an attempt for the ball, WAS an obvious gs opportunity, but as I said on another thread, attacker didn't have control of the ball and was moving away from goal, so therefore not a red.
Its not simply 'last man' as most pundits say! [Post edited 12 Nov 2021 13:18]
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Interesting........to be clear PP.
So, goalkeeper fouls a player and stops the obvious goal scoring chance within the penalty area.
What does the ref give with regards to the goalkeeper??? Red or Yellow?? | | | |
| Dieng on 13:54 - Nov 12 with 1519 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dieng on 13:47 - Nov 12 by gazza1 |
Interesting........to be clear PP.
So, goalkeeper fouls a player and stops the obvious goal scoring chance within the penalty area.
What does the ref give with regards to the goalkeeper??? Red or Yellow?? |
If obvious gs oppourtunity (all criteria I mentioned met) its a yellow.
No attempt for the ball or considered serious foul play or violent conduct its a red.
If seen as a reckless challenge or breaking up promising attack but none of the above its a yellow.
Careless foul will just be a penalty kick - I had one of those the other day.
Final point, the above applies to all players not just goalkeepers. | | | |
| Dieng on 14:14 - Nov 12 with 1453 views | gazza1 |
| Dieng on 19:53 - Nov 10 by Superhoops2808 |
Incorrect (And I thought you knew everything)
You can.
What has changed, is the rule which said that certain offences carried an AUTOMATIC red card, if they prevented a clear goalscoring opportunity.
It was decided that this constitutes double jeopardy, meaning two punishments for the same crime, and sometimes for quite a trivial crime. So a penalty is deemed to be enough punishment, and the foul is treated on it's merits according to the severity of the offence. Which may mean a red card, but most often not.
So in this instance, Dieng made a lame attempt to get the ball so it was a yellow. But had he made no attempt and hauled him down it would have been a Red AND a Penalty.
Sure Pinner will be along with the finer details of the law |
I would suggest that you are much 'wider of the mark' than I am.......as PP explains. | | | |
| Dieng on 14:40 - Nov 12 with 1411 views | PinnerPaul |
Back on the 16th offy now says. | | | |
| Dieng on 19:02 - Nov 12 with 1215 views | VancouverHoop |
| Dieng on 07:16 - Nov 11 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Presuming not for patriotic reasons, why has he chosen Senegal over Switzerland by the way? Early career mistake or deliberate I wonder? |
Probably because he'd have to stand in line for a long time. Switzerland currently have a strong battalion of keepers. They're led by Yann Sommer, Gladbach's captain who led his team to a 5—0 walloping of Bayern Munich a couple of weeks back. Bayern's biggest defeat since 1978. Seny's choice makes sense for someone of his age and experience. | | | |
| Dieng on 19:03 - Nov 12 with 1208 views | Myke |
| Dieng on 13:54 - Nov 12 by PinnerPaul |
If obvious gs oppourtunity (all criteria I mentioned met) its a yellow.
No attempt for the ball or considered serious foul play or violent conduct its a red.
If seen as a reckless challenge or breaking up promising attack but none of the above its a yellow.
Careless foul will just be a penalty kick - I had one of those the other day.
Final point, the above applies to all players not just goalkeepers. |
If Dieng had just stood there laughing at his terrible first touch it would have been a goalkick | | | |
| Dieng on 20:18 - Nov 12 with 1105 views | Superhoops2808 |
| Dieng on 14:14 - Nov 12 by gazza1 |
I would suggest that you are much 'wider of the mark' than I am.......as PP explains. |
Really??
You said: I don't believe that a penalty and a red card will be given to a keeper in the same incident.
I corrected you. The thing Pinner and I disagreed on was whether or not it was a goalscoring opportunity - I didn't think so, he does. But I answered your question, that a penalty AND a red card can be given
He is the referee, I only quoted you the law regarding the double jeopardy.
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| Dieng on 23:35 - Nov 12 with 987 views | distortR |
back to the op, and I'm amazed no-one has gone down the "'bout time he caught something" road................. | | | |
| Dieng on 07:56 - Nov 13 with 886 views | davman |
If he is only self isolating 'til the 16th, he first had systems on the 6th, so has been around the others with it for a few days.
We are told C-19 is highly infectious and airborne, but I know of so many examples where some in a household have gone down with it and some haven't. My son and I had it, more or less moved around the house normally, but my wife didn't pick it up.
Maybe it is as simple as some are susceptible and some aren't or might be to do with the fact I was physically down and therefore caught it more easily.?
Hope he's been vaxxed and it proves mild...
Where is that Corona thread when you need it? (We don't BTW...). |  |
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