| Have a feeling 11:38 - Nov 12 with 19842 views | loftboy |
That Mick Beale will be Rangers (Glasgow variety) manager by the end of the World Cup. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 23:02 - Nov 12 with 2932 views | paulparker |
| Have a feeling on 22:52 - Nov 12 by Hayesender |
I'm getting pretty bored with the whole will he won't he go to wolves? Now will he won't he go to the small Rangers?
Not home from Coventry yet, and we the fans put in a lot of time, both emotionally and financially.
Make your mind up, and either commit or leave. I'm really not too fused tbh |
This a 100% |  |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Have a feeling on 23:25 - Nov 12 with 2890 views | Loyalitat |
| Have a feeling on 22:52 - Nov 12 by Hayesender |
I'm getting pretty bored with the whole will he won't he go to wolves? Now will he won't he go to the small Rangers?
Not home from Coventry yet, and we the fans put in a lot of time, both emotionally and financially.
Make your mind up, and either commit or leave. I'm really not too fused tbh |
This. Totally agree. |  | | |
| Have a feeling on 00:18 - Nov 13 with 2798 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| Have a feeling on 23:25 - Nov 12 by Loyalitat |
This. Totally agree. |
To be honest the only place I'm hearing about these rumours are on here.
In any case after this weeks results I'll drive him to fcking Glasgow myself ;) |  |
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| Have a feeling on 12:25 - Nov 13 with 2563 views | davman |
| Have a feeling on 22:52 - Nov 12 by Hayesender |
I'm getting pretty bored with the whole will he won't he go to wolves? Now will he won't he go to the small Rangers?
Not home from Coventry yet, and we the fans put in a lot of time, both emotionally and financially.
Make your mind up, and either commit or leave. I'm really not too fused tbh |
He will argue that he can't help this "noise" around him, but like the Wolves saga, he could have worked harder to make it clear that he wasn't interested.
The rhetoric after that was about HIS loyalty to the club, fans and players, so it shouldn't matter who comes calling.
Personally I want him to stay and turn this form around, but he has made it pretty clear that he does not plan on being with us long, so I hope that the club is looking at succession planning. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 13:03 - Nov 13 with 2492 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Spoke with a member of QPR staff and asked about Beale. Best manager they have ever worked, when asked if he'll stay the answer was 'if we go up'. | |
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| Have a feeling on 13:09 - Nov 13 with 2457 views | Northernr |
| Have a feeling on 12:25 - Nov 13 by davman |
He will argue that he can't help this "noise" around him, but like the Wolves saga, he could have worked harder to make it clear that he wasn't interested.
The rhetoric after that was about HIS loyalty to the club, fans and players, so it shouldn't matter who comes calling.
Personally I want him to stay and turn this form around, but he has made it pretty clear that he does not plan on being with us long, so I hope that the club is looking at succession planning. |
Well he couldn't do that with Wolves because he definitely was interested.
I note the line in The Athletic's deep dive on Wolves' new manager last week that Mick Beale "was seen twice by Wolves and emerged as the new preferred target after an outstanding presentation".
Not quite the line we've been spun. |  | | |
| Have a feeling on 13:11 - Nov 13 with 2447 views | traininvain |
| Have a feeling on 13:09 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Well he couldn't do that with Wolves because he definitely was interested.
I note the line in The Athletic's deep dive on Wolves' new manager last week that Mick Beale "was seen twice by Wolves and emerged as the new preferred target after an outstanding presentation".
Not quite the line we've been spun. |
Makes you question why he didn’t end up taking the Wolves job. The cynic in me wonders if he’s waiting for the Glasgow Rangers gig. |  | | |
| Have a feeling on 13:16 - Nov 13 with 2420 views | distortR |
| Have a feeling on 13:09 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Well he couldn't do that with Wolves because he definitely was interested.
I note the line in The Athletic's deep dive on Wolves' new manager last week that Mick Beale "was seen twice by Wolves and emerged as the new preferred target after an outstanding presentation".
Not quite the line we've been spun. |
I can smell the integrity..............
I get it if he did speak to them, just don't bullshit us. | | | |
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| Have a feeling on 13:54 - Nov 13 with 2348 views | kensalriser |
| Have a feeling on 13:09 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Well he couldn't do that with Wolves because he definitely was interested.
I note the line in The Athletic's deep dive on Wolves' new manager last week that Mick Beale "was seen twice by Wolves and emerged as the new preferred target after an outstanding presentation".
Not quite the line we've been spun. |
That suggests, and this shouldn't be a surprise, that he's the type who's good at managing up and presenting as competent. The only trouble with football is that it's not so easy to spin the actual results. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 13:55 - Nov 13 with 2322 views | Damo1962 |
| Have a feeling on 13:03 - Nov 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Spoke with a member of QPR staff and asked about Beale. Best manager they have ever worked, when asked if he'll stay the answer was 'if we go up'. |
Then he will be off. Not a chance this team will get promoted. It isn't top six, and will need at least three new proven additions, and less glass players to do that. Ho hum. | | | |
| Have a feeling on 13:56 - Nov 13 with 2319 views | Damo1962 |
| Have a feeling on 13:54 - Nov 13 by kensalriser |
That suggests, and this shouldn't be a surprise, that he's the type who's good at managing up and presenting as competent. The only trouble with football is that it's not so easy to spin the actual results. |
This. | | | |
| Have a feeling on 14:50 - Nov 13 with 2291 views | Mick_S |
| Have a feeling on 13:03 - Nov 13 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Spoke with a member of QPR staff and asked about Beale. Best manager they have ever worked, when asked if he'll stay the answer was 'if we go up'. |
Would this indicate that there are new players on the way? He would have taken the Wolves job, because we are not going up with this squad.
Darn it, I’ve taken the bait. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 15:05 - Nov 13 with 2262 views | dmm |
| Have a feeling on 14:50 - Nov 13 by Mick_S |
Would this indicate that there are new players on the way? He would have taken the Wolves job, because we are not going up with this squad.
Darn it, I’ve taken the bait. |
I thought the same thing, Mick. I like Beale as much as the next R, but he's ambitious, likes to play the field and is obviously seen as a rising star. Something kept him from going to Wolves and the obvious thing would be the promise of fresh blood in January. He wants a promotion to the Premier League on his CV. |  | | |
| Have a feeling on 16:49 - Nov 13 with 2120 views | PinnerPaul |
| Have a feeling on 13:09 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
Well he couldn't do that with Wolves because he definitely was interested.
I note the line in The Athletic's deep dive on Wolves' new manager last week that Mick Beale "was seen twice by Wolves and emerged as the new preferred target after an outstanding presentation".
Not quite the line we've been spun. |
IF true.
Have you not debunked many of their stories previously? | | | |
| Have a feeling on 16:51 - Nov 13 with 2114 views | PinnerPaul |
| Have a feeling on 22:52 - Nov 12 by Hayesender |
I'm getting pretty bored with the whole will he won't he go to wolves? Now will he won't he go to the small Rangers?
Not home from Coventry yet, and we the fans put in a lot of time, both emotionally and financially.
Make your mind up, and either commit or leave. I'm really not too fused tbh |
He's as committed as any other employee surely?
Chris Willock is he 'committed' ?- certainly is .........................until a PL club comes calling! | | | |
| Have a feeling on 17:14 - Nov 13 with 2071 views | Northernr |
| Have a feeling on 16:49 - Nov 13 by PinnerPaul |
IF true.
Have you not debunked many of their stories previously? |
No, I think their fawning coverage of Nottingham Forest is a farce, but that's different to saying they publish facts that are made up or untrue.
I said at the time it was happening, immediately afterwards, and I say again now - this is true.
The idea that Wolves came calling for a manger 15 games into a Championship career entirely of their own volition, that there was no contact at all before that, that they put it about that he was their top choice and they were confident a deal would be done speedily in time for their Leicester home game without being led to believe that was the case, and that he then turned them down flat without even speaking to them out of duty and loyalty, is absolute fantasy. | | | |
| Have a feeling on 17:22 - Nov 13 with 2039 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Have a feeling on 17:14 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
No, I think their fawning coverage of Nottingham Forest is a farce, but that's different to saying they publish facts that are made up or untrue.
I said at the time it was happening, immediately afterwards, and I say again now - this is true.
The idea that Wolves came calling for a manger 15 games into a Championship career entirely of their own volition, that there was no contact at all before that, that they put it about that he was their top choice and they were confident a deal would be done speedily in time for their Leicester home game without being led to believe that was the case, and that he then turned them down flat without even speaking to them out of duty and loyalty, is absolute fantasy. |
That's how I see it too. And I could have done without his interviews afterwards stating that loyalty and integrity were important to him. Spare me the preaching.
That's not to say that he should be sacked. I don't think he should at all. But he's a young manager who made a mistake. As distortR said - why not come out and say "ya, I spoke to them, but I turned them down"? I think we all would have respected that.
But to preach to us about loyalty and integrity, and to tell lies when we were all going to find out anyway strikes me as naive mistakes and the actions of a manager learning the trade.
No shame in that. And hopefully he'll learn. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 17:24 - Nov 13 with 2021 views | PinnerPaul |
| Have a feeling on 17:14 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
No, I think their fawning coverage of Nottingham Forest is a farce, but that's different to saying they publish facts that are made up or untrue.
I said at the time it was happening, immediately afterwards, and I say again now - this is true.
The idea that Wolves came calling for a manger 15 games into a Championship career entirely of their own volition, that there was no contact at all before that, that they put it about that he was their top choice and they were confident a deal would be done speedily in time for their Leicester home game without being led to believe that was the case, and that he then turned them down flat without even speaking to them out of duty and loyalty, is absolute fantasy. |
Fair enough Clive, I respect your opinion, but you'll forgive me if I don't believe everything i read.
There were 'facts' stated around his agent talking to Wolves , then the Telegraph calmly stated he doesn't have an agent - one of those isn't true!
Clearly not everything written is false, but neither is everything true! | | | |
| Have a feeling on 17:32 - Nov 13 with 1982 views | Northernr |
| Have a feeling on 17:24 - Nov 13 by PinnerPaul |
Fair enough Clive, I respect your opinion, but you'll forgive me if I don't believe everything i read.
There were 'facts' stated around his agent talking to Wolves , then the Telegraph calmly stated he doesn't have an agent - one of those isn't true!
Clearly not everything written is false, but neither is everything true! |
Well "I haven't got an agent" is a bit like his "there's been no direct contact" line for me.
Disingenuous.
Beale does all his own contracts does he? The release clause he had with Villa that we had to pay, he negotiated that himself did he? Gets jobs at Chelsea, Liverpool, Rangers, Sao Paolo, Aston Villa and then QPR purely through word of mouth and being a great bloke, and then he negotiates all the deals and contracts with those clubs himself does he? Multi million pound contracts with some of the biggest clubs in the world, and Mickey just strolls in there on his todd and negotiates the terms of the deal himself? Again, that fantasy word is just dying to go down on my pad. | | | |
| Have a feeling on 17:42 - Nov 13 with 1937 views | TacticalR |
That reminds me of the discussion about Joorabchian. He kept on saying that he wasn't an agent, merely an advisor - two entirely different things. |  |
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| Have a feeling on 17:44 - Nov 13 with 1913 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Have a feeling on 17:24 - Nov 13 by PinnerPaul |
Fair enough Clive, I respect your opinion, but you'll forgive me if I don't believe everything i read.
There were 'facts' stated around his agent talking to Wolves , then the Telegraph calmly stated he doesn't have an agent - one of those isn't true!
Clearly not everything written is false, but neither is everything true! |
I suspect the ‘doesn’t have an agent’ line is more about semantics than anything else.
Edit: What Tactical said. [Post edited 13 Nov 2022 17:45]
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| Have a feeling on 17:51 - Nov 13 with 1884 views | aston_hoop |
Just to clarify what is being said, did he actually turn Wolves down then or did they push him back a bit when Lopetegui became available again? |  |
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| Have a feeling on 17:59 - Nov 13 with 1871 views | Northernr |
| Have a feeling on 17:51 - Nov 13 by aston_hoop |
Just to clarify what is being said, did he actually turn Wolves down then or did they push him back a bit when Lopetegui became available again? |
No he turned them down, no idea why and I suspect he feels the same way now.
What I'm saying is he came out afterwards and said he turned them down without speaking to them, and that he felt that was important out of loyalty and commitment to QPR and blah blah, which I'm saying is bollocks. Of course he spoke to them, I'm led to believe it's not the first club he's spoken to this season, and that's seemingly confirmed by The Athletic who basically say Wolves didn't have the foggiest idea who he was but he worked his way into a couple of meetings with them and then wowed them with his presentation to the point where, when everybody turned them down, he became the prime choice. It's the "I turned them down without ever speaking to them" line that I'm picking on, it's not true. | | | |
| Have a feeling on 18:01 - Nov 13 with 1860 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Have a feeling on 17:59 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
No he turned them down, no idea why and I suspect he feels the same way now.
What I'm saying is he came out afterwards and said he turned them down without speaking to them, and that he felt that was important out of loyalty and commitment to QPR and blah blah, which I'm saying is bollocks. Of course he spoke to them, I'm led to believe it's not the first club he's spoken to this season, and that's seemingly confirmed by The Athletic who basically say Wolves didn't have the foggiest idea who he was but he worked his way into a couple of meetings with them and then wowed them with his presentation to the point where, when everybody turned them down, he became the prime choice. It's the "I turned them down without ever speaking to them" line that I'm picking on, it's not true. |
Sounds very Brendan Rogersesque | | | |
| Have a feeling on 18:03 - Nov 13 with 1861 views | aston_hoop |
| Have a feeling on 17:59 - Nov 13 by Northernr |
No he turned them down, no idea why and I suspect he feels the same way now.
What I'm saying is he came out afterwards and said he turned them down without speaking to them, and that he felt that was important out of loyalty and commitment to QPR and blah blah, which I'm saying is bollocks. Of course he spoke to them, I'm led to believe it's not the first club he's spoken to this season, and that's seemingly confirmed by The Athletic who basically say Wolves didn't have the foggiest idea who he was but he worked his way into a couple of meetings with them and then wowed them with his presentation to the point where, when everybody turned them down, he became the prime choice. It's the "I turned them down without ever speaking to them" line that I'm picking on, it's not true. |
Thanks for clarifying, this does not sit at all well with me then. He's sold us a complete pack of lies about his loyalty then hasn't he. I suppose he'll be off as soon as the first opportunity he likes comes up and saves us paying him off | |
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