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NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! 13:16 - Jan 8 with 3816 viewsJules4367

I posed the question as to 'Does anyone of importance read these posts?' yesterday and as yet no one of any significance has acknowledged or responded. So it appears that they don't!

If anyone out there knows a way to relay to the 'important people' that the HEART AND SOUL of the QPR support is in these posts and that we NEED to see that people actually care, rather than just giving us the platitudes of 'I DO feel sorry for the supporters' etc....

please do so!

Thanks
[Post edited 8 Jan 2023 13:18]
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NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 17:32 - Jan 9 with 611 viewsPunteR

NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 10:58 - Jan 9 by swisscottage

"That really isn't the point of any one game of football is it?" - no, I agree an individual game of football, the aim is to win, or occasionally not lose depending on your circumstances in relation to the table position and impact on relegation or promotion probabilities.

However, it is a necessity for any community centric business whether it be a football club, youth centre, advice centres etc.

If the owners were purely in this for their own self interests they would have walked away years ago. I reckon they've sunk over 300mil into the club now, if not more, and that rises at about 1 million a month.

They have practically zero chance of making their money back outside of getting us established in the premiership and selling us for billions. The only way that occurs is if we have a freakish season or we gradually build the club through proper structure and framework to enable the buying developing and selling of players for profit, in order to gradually allow us to raise the bar similar to they Brentford have done.

Every indication is that is what they are doing. You don't buy and develop new training facilities if your interests are short term. Even though this is partly funded by the bond scheme, that only goes so far. and they are extremely limited in what they can do due to FFP and the crash of the mid level player market post COVID.

Buying players costs money.
Players salaries, appearance money, bonuses cost money.

The quality of players and size of squad of quality players you can afford its entirely limited by club income + 11mil of money input by the owners per year.

If you average 14k gates, don't have facilities to generate non-matchday income then you are generally speaking going to be a bottom half championship club unless you can generate significant income from transfers.


part of the problem we have as supporters (me included) is that our expectations are higher than the finances dictate over the long term.

Yes, small well run clubs with funding from owners can punch above that in a short period, allowing a vey occasional promotion push, and once they are in the premiership, each season's survival can then further improve the structure of the club going forward..

Our promotion push came last season. Hit the rocks in the 2nd half, and has left us financially constrained this season because of it.
[Post edited 9 Jan 2023 11:11]


Good post.

I don't necessarily disagree with what you are saying but I have zero sympathy for them.
There's been a lot of talk on here about long term plans but do you honestly think these guys have actually got something up their sleeve. ?.
We've been static for 8 years now, I don't see any kind of improvement on the pitch really, and that's where it counts.

Occasional providers of half decent House music.

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NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 17:54 - Jan 9 with 545 viewsR_from_afar

NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 10:58 - Jan 9 by swisscottage

"That really isn't the point of any one game of football is it?" - no, I agree an individual game of football, the aim is to win, or occasionally not lose depending on your circumstances in relation to the table position and impact on relegation or promotion probabilities.

However, it is a necessity for any community centric business whether it be a football club, youth centre, advice centres etc.

If the owners were purely in this for their own self interests they would have walked away years ago. I reckon they've sunk over 300mil into the club now, if not more, and that rises at about 1 million a month.

They have practically zero chance of making their money back outside of getting us established in the premiership and selling us for billions. The only way that occurs is if we have a freakish season or we gradually build the club through proper structure and framework to enable the buying developing and selling of players for profit, in order to gradually allow us to raise the bar similar to they Brentford have done.

Every indication is that is what they are doing. You don't buy and develop new training facilities if your interests are short term. Even though this is partly funded by the bond scheme, that only goes so far. and they are extremely limited in what they can do due to FFP and the crash of the mid level player market post COVID.

Buying players costs money.
Players salaries, appearance money, bonuses cost money.

The quality of players and size of squad of quality players you can afford its entirely limited by club income + 11mil of money input by the owners per year.

If you average 14k gates, don't have facilities to generate non-matchday income then you are generally speaking going to be a bottom half championship club unless you can generate significant income from transfers.


part of the problem we have as supporters (me included) is that our expectations are higher than the finances dictate over the long term.

Yes, small well run clubs with funding from owners can punch above that in a short period, allowing a vey occasional promotion push, and once they are in the premiership, each season's survival can then further improve the structure of the club going forward..

Our promotion push came last season. Hit the rocks in the 2nd half, and has left us financially constrained this season because of it.
[Post edited 9 Jan 2023 11:11]


Great post

"Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1."

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NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 19:02 - Jan 9 with 511 viewsJimmyR

NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 20:37 - Jan 8 by Damo1962

Not to you maybe. I'll rephrase it then, some are personal and intolerant. The ignore button is there for a reason... and I'm pretty sure I'm on a few lists 😉


Two months ago you were on here calling McLean a fenian gobshite as you’ve got a ‘different perspective’

Now you’re giving out instructions on tolerance?!?

Tw@t
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NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 20:26 - Jan 9 with 441 viewsSpaghetti_Hoops

NO-ONE in a position to do anything at the club actually READS these posts!!!! on 10:58 - Jan 9 by swisscottage

"That really isn't the point of any one game of football is it?" - no, I agree an individual game of football, the aim is to win, or occasionally not lose depending on your circumstances in relation to the table position and impact on relegation or promotion probabilities.

However, it is a necessity for any community centric business whether it be a football club, youth centre, advice centres etc.

If the owners were purely in this for their own self interests they would have walked away years ago. I reckon they've sunk over 300mil into the club now, if not more, and that rises at about 1 million a month.

They have practically zero chance of making their money back outside of getting us established in the premiership and selling us for billions. The only way that occurs is if we have a freakish season or we gradually build the club through proper structure and framework to enable the buying developing and selling of players for profit, in order to gradually allow us to raise the bar similar to they Brentford have done.

Every indication is that is what they are doing. You don't buy and develop new training facilities if your interests are short term. Even though this is partly funded by the bond scheme, that only goes so far. and they are extremely limited in what they can do due to FFP and the crash of the mid level player market post COVID.

Buying players costs money.
Players salaries, appearance money, bonuses cost money.

The quality of players and size of squad of quality players you can afford its entirely limited by club income + 11mil of money input by the owners per year.

If you average 14k gates, don't have facilities to generate non-matchday income then you are generally speaking going to be a bottom half championship club unless you can generate significant income from transfers.


part of the problem we have as supporters (me included) is that our expectations are higher than the finances dictate over the long term.

Yes, small well run clubs with funding from owners can punch above that in a short period, allowing a vey occasional promotion push, and once they are in the premiership, each season's survival can then further improve the structure of the club going forward..

Our promotion push came last season. Hit the rocks in the 2nd half, and has left us financially constrained this season because of it.
[Post edited 9 Jan 2023 11:11]


True

Many fans expectations are completely unrealistic. It’s a shame if it gets in the way of them enjoying what we have.
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