| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? 06:33 - Nov 5 with 4701 views | bluenwhite10 |
Nardi
Dunne
Morrison
Mbengue
N-Davies
Smyth
Madsen
Varane
Saito
Chair
Burrell/Kone
That is what I think he will go with, but not necessarily what I think he should go with.
It is quite strange at the moment as I don’t believe the fans or the manager know what the best 11 are, but we are in a better position now against the last 2 seasons with a stronger squad so something must be right. |  | | |  |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:08 - Nov 5 with 3629 views | Lblock |
Nardi
Dunne
Morrison
Cook
N-Davies
Smyth
Madsen
Field
Saito
Chair
Burrell
I might consider not going with Chair and adding Varanne so the midfield is stodged up.
Would like to see Field start. I’m told his out of form but he cannot be any worse than other options we’ve seen lately so deserves a chance for me.
If we had another senior keeper at the club that’s ours then I’d drop Nardi but I wouldn’t for the emergency on loan option of Hamer. |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:19 - Nov 5 with 3587 views | numptydumpty |
Am slightly concerned about Chair being back.
Changing the fluidity of the attack, slowing the game down and all attacking decisions going through him.
Think in particular, him being in the team, Madsen, Vale and Kone, their input and effectiveness has been lessened with the dynamics and emphasis of our attacking being slowed down and dominated by Chair.
Hope i am wrong but as a team, we have been a lot worse performance wise since the return of Chair and am concerned He may seem to be one of the better performers but if it is at the expense of three or four other players being worse than recently, not sure its brilliantly helpful for the overall team, he is back.
Hope i am wrong but have seen this so far.
This might be controversial but i would move Chair on, at the end of the season.
i think Vale is a better long term bet in the middle or as a ten with the squad we now have. i just hope Chair can adapt to making other players better as previously most players seem to perform worse than normal when Chair dominates. And i think the inventiveness of Madsen also will be lessened and Chair is not looking for Kone also.
Its a nagging concern.
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:29 - Nov 5 with 3542 views | stevec |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:19 - Nov 5 by numptydumpty |
Am slightly concerned about Chair being back.
Changing the fluidity of the attack, slowing the game down and all attacking decisions going through him.
Think in particular, him being in the team, Madsen, Vale and Kone, their input and effectiveness has been lessened with the dynamics and emphasis of our attacking being slowed down and dominated by Chair.
Hope i am wrong but as a team, we have been a lot worse performance wise since the return of Chair and am concerned He may seem to be one of the better performers but if it is at the expense of three or four other players being worse than recently, not sure its brilliantly helpful for the overall team, he is back.
Hope i am wrong but have seen this so far.
This might be controversial but i would move Chair on, at the end of the season.
i think Vale is a better long term bet in the middle or as a ten with the squad we now have. i just hope Chair can adapt to making other players better as previously most players seem to perform worse than normal when Chair dominates. And i think the inventiveness of Madsen also will be lessened and Chair is not looking for Kone also.
Its a nagging concern.
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Spot on.
He’s changing the dynamics and not for the best. I’m tiring of him using the clubs centre forwards as a decoy. |  | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:55 - Nov 5 with 3488 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:29 - Nov 5 by stevec |
Spot on.
He’s changing the dynamics and not for the best. I’m tiring of him using the clubs centre forwards as a decoy. |
To my memory, he kept hold of the ball once - once - on Saturday for too long. Other than that he was a key outlet for us, as he was in his previous game, and offered far more than Madsen who is now apparently the bees knees. He also, of course, was the key assist to our goal.
I don't get fans sometimes. It's hardly like we've been inundated with players in recent years who've 1) given their all and 2) been consistently good. The only players in our current squad who have done this for over a year are:
Cook ("legs gone, too slow, past it")
Field ("can't turn, useless")
Chair ("selfish, get rid")
and possibly Smyth.
And after the inevitable excitement of the new players such as Mbengue, Poku, Kone...I thought it was distasteful how quickly our stalwart key players were being written off.
Surprise surprise, turns out Mbengue is a loon, Poku made of glass and Kone's now forgotten he's the second coming of Les Ferdinand.
So pretty quickly the manager turns back to....Cook, Field, Chair, Smyth no doubt.
Quelle surprise. I'm behind these guys for the duration as they are all I want in a QPR player. Once the newbies have proven themselves over tough periods, they are welcome to join them. |  | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:06 - Nov 5 with 3452 views | gazza1 |
I am sure he will bring back Mbengue & RND back to the defence...who he will leave out from Cook & Morrison is the question.
He will bring pace back into the team and Vale will be omitted.
Biggest debate is will he 'rest' Kone who has struggled recently. |  | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:20 - Nov 5 with 3400 views | numptydumpty |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:55 - Nov 5 by GaryBannister86 |
To my memory, he kept hold of the ball once - once - on Saturday for too long. Other than that he was a key outlet for us, as he was in his previous game, and offered far more than Madsen who is now apparently the bees knees. He also, of course, was the key assist to our goal.
I don't get fans sometimes. It's hardly like we've been inundated with players in recent years who've 1) given their all and 2) been consistently good. The only players in our current squad who have done this for over a year are:
Cook ("legs gone, too slow, past it")
Field ("can't turn, useless")
Chair ("selfish, get rid")
and possibly Smyth.
And after the inevitable excitement of the new players such as Mbengue, Poku, Kone...I thought it was distasteful how quickly our stalwart key players were being written off.
Surprise surprise, turns out Mbengue is a loon, Poku made of glass and Kone's now forgotten he's the second coming of Les Ferdinand.
So pretty quickly the manager turns back to....Cook, Field, Chair, Smyth no doubt.
Quelle surprise. I'm behind these guys for the duration as they are all I want in a QPR player. Once the newbies have proven themselves over tough periods, they are welcome to join them. |
Field and Smyth and Cook add their experience and the team dynamic doesnt change
As i said Chair plays and he lpoks our best outlet but i am concerned its at the expense of the team overall.
Yes Chairs shot made our goal but we lost four one.
Many others have been playing well scoring and contributing well and we been winning too.
Chair has come back and he know seems our only outlet. is it everyone else suddenly has lost form or will Chair be able to adapt to many orhers being able to be the outlets also and release the ball quickly like everyone else has recently.
i hope it doesnt play out like this but surely you can see the overall team perfmance has weakened.
Hopefully just a coincidence but will see how it plays out [Post edited 5 Nov 8:27]
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:39 - Nov 5 with 3331 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I don't think Chair was our only outlet last Saturday, in fact I don't even think he was even our main outlet - that was still the ball over the top for Burrell, I thought.
Chair's been fine since he came back imo. Against Swansea his quick, one-touch passing changed the game and was a real asset. Since then there's been a few incidents when he's shot or held on, but only a few. And one of them led to our goal on Saturday.
If Stéphan can get Chair playing like he did against Swansea, we'll be in very good shape. And that is Stéphan's job. |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:41 - Nov 5 with 3321 views | FDC |
I'm thinking we are now entering the "actually, we may need to play three in midfield you know!" stage of the season. I'd go with:
Aunt Sally
RND
Mbengue
Morrison
Dunne
Field
Madsen
Varane / Hayden
Saito
Burrell
Smyth |  | | |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:42 - Nov 5 with 3320 views | GaryBannister86 |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:20 - Nov 5 by numptydumpty |
Field and Smyth and Cook add their experience and the team dynamic doesnt change
As i said Chair plays and he lpoks our best outlet but i am concerned its at the expense of the team overall.
Yes Chairs shot made our goal but we lost four one.
Many others have been playing well scoring and contributing well and we been winning too.
Chair has come back and he know seems our only outlet. is it everyone else suddenly has lost form or will Chair be able to adapt to many orhers being able to be the outlets also and release the ball quickly like everyone else has recently.
i hope it doesnt play out like this but surely you can see the overall team perfmance has weakened.
Hopefully just a coincidence but will see how it plays out [Post edited 5 Nov 8:27]
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There were clear reasons we lost 1-4 on Saturday and it had nothing to do with Chair. The manager's insistence on stupid rest and rotation and leaving a poor kid at left back hung out to dry; only required a decent opposition manager and 1 and a half minutes to break that wide open.
I want to see Field and Chair back as the first names on the team sheet, every week, a consistent centre back pairing and the fancy dans up front I guess you can fiddle about with. We need a consistent spine, that's where we are going wrong in my opinion.
As you say, let's see tonight. He'll probably rest Chair anyway as he played on Saturday and it is very important we keep him for our 0-2 defeat at Sheffield on Saturday. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 09:13 - Nov 5 with 3211 views | Blue_Castello |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:42 - Nov 5 by GaryBannister86 |
There were clear reasons we lost 1-4 on Saturday and it had nothing to do with Chair. The manager's insistence on stupid rest and rotation and leaving a poor kid at left back hung out to dry; only required a decent opposition manager and 1 and a half minutes to break that wide open.
I want to see Field and Chair back as the first names on the team sheet, every week, a consistent centre back pairing and the fancy dans up front I guess you can fiddle about with. We need a consistent spine, that's where we are going wrong in my opinion.
As you say, let's see tonight. He'll probably rest Chair anyway as he played on Saturday and it is very important we keep him for our 0-2 defeat at Sheffield on Saturday. |
I take Numptys point but I'm with you all the way, everybody has said how well Chair has played since he came back and that result against Ipswich was nothing to do with Chair being in the team, a decent left back and a better goalkeeper and we could well have got a point from the game.
I also agree about Sam Field he's been written off far too quickly but I still think one of the main reasons Varane gets the nod over him is because we want to sell him and his market value decreases sitting on the bench. [Post edited 5 Nov 9:32]
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 09:20 - Nov 5 with 3178 views | DesertBoot |
Kone is playing out of position and arguably needs a rest.
Saito on the left, Smyth on the right and Burrell off Chair in the middle.
Cook looks slower than ever so Mbengue in for him with ND left back. |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 09:40 - Nov 5 with 3076 views | stevec |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:55 - Nov 5 by GaryBannister86 |
To my memory, he kept hold of the ball once - once - on Saturday for too long. Other than that he was a key outlet for us, as he was in his previous game, and offered far more than Madsen who is now apparently the bees knees. He also, of course, was the key assist to our goal.
I don't get fans sometimes. It's hardly like we've been inundated with players in recent years who've 1) given their all and 2) been consistently good. The only players in our current squad who have done this for over a year are:
Cook ("legs gone, too slow, past it")
Field ("can't turn, useless")
Chair ("selfish, get rid")
and possibly Smyth.
And after the inevitable excitement of the new players such as Mbengue, Poku, Kone...I thought it was distasteful how quickly our stalwart key players were being written off.
Surprise surprise, turns out Mbengue is a loon, Poku made of glass and Kone's now forgotten he's the second coming of Les Ferdinand.
So pretty quickly the manager turns back to....Cook, Field, Chair, Smyth no doubt.
Quelle surprise. I'm behind these guys for the duration as they are all I want in a QPR player. Once the newbies have proven themselves over tough periods, they are welcome to join them. |
I go with all what you’re saying and Chair is an excellent player, no doubt about it.
I’ve just had enough of seeing him use centre forwards purely as a decoy for his own runs. It smacks of all about me.
Last Saturday done for me. Burrell and Kone, throwing their arms up and understandably so, and he turned away without even the hint of an apology. I think that sums up his attitude to those around him, it’s not a good look.
Speak to oppo championship fans, he’s the first name to come out from them as our best player, yet none of their clubs take a blind interest in buying him.
There’s a reason for that. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 09:47 - Nov 5 with 3056 views | TheChef |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:19 - Nov 5 by numptydumpty |
Am slightly concerned about Chair being back.
Changing the fluidity of the attack, slowing the game down and all attacking decisions going through him.
Think in particular, him being in the team, Madsen, Vale and Kone, their input and effectiveness has been lessened with the dynamics and emphasis of our attacking being slowed down and dominated by Chair.
Hope i am wrong but as a team, we have been a lot worse performance wise since the return of Chair and am concerned He may seem to be one of the better performers but if it is at the expense of three or four other players being worse than recently, not sure its brilliantly helpful for the overall team, he is back.
Hope i am wrong but have seen this so far.
This might be controversial but i would move Chair on, at the end of the season.
i think Vale is a better long term bet in the middle or as a ten with the squad we now have. i just hope Chair can adapt to making other players better as previously most players seem to perform worse than normal when Chair dominates. And i think the inventiveness of Madsen also will be lessened and Chair is not looking for Kone also.
Its a nagging concern.
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Every time Chair comes back into the team after injury, our results drop off a cliff.
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 10:55 - Nov 5 with 2862 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
I wasn't there on Saturday so I can't speak with authority on how the game went but my God, the defending for all four goals. He must start Mbengue and RND as a minimum requirement.
Morrison is outjumped far too easily for the first goal but he's generally been okay for us and it's unlikely JCS will suddenly emerge tonight. I would actually be tempted to play Dunne in the middle as he's been poor at right back this season - do we even have another right back though?
Nardi is an accident waiting to happen at the moment but again, who else is there?
I'm less worried by the attacking options and more sad about watching Handsome Ronnie in a rival shirt. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 12:37 - Nov 5 with 2670 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
It's Hamer time. | |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 12:42 - Nov 5 with 2651 views | gazza1 |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 12:37 - Nov 5 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
It's Hamer time. |
Interesting call.
Certainly cost us points at Derby despite some posters do not blame him & was to blame for one of the goals on Saturday. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 12:48 - Nov 5 with 2624 views | Dorse |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 10:55 - Nov 5 by Wegerles_Stairs |
I wasn't there on Saturday so I can't speak with authority on how the game went but my God, the defending for all four goals. He must start Mbengue and RND as a minimum requirement.
Morrison is outjumped far too easily for the first goal but he's generally been okay for us and it's unlikely JCS will suddenly emerge tonight. I would actually be tempted to play Dunne in the middle as he's been poor at right back this season - do we even have another right back though?
Nardi is an accident waiting to happen at the moment but again, who else is there?
I'm less worried by the attacking options and more sad about watching Handsome Ronnie in a rival shirt. |
Several female fans are hoping he doesn't bother with the shirt.
Or shorts. |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 12:51 - Nov 5 with 2610 views | sdm1508 |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:06 - Nov 5 by gazza1 |
I am sure he will bring back Mbengue & RND back to the defence...who he will leave out from Cook & Morrison is the question.
He will bring pace back into the team and Vale will be omitted.
Biggest debate is will he 'rest' Kone who has struggled recently. |
I would have Kone on the bench to start. Not his own doing. I think he is being played slightly incorrectly. He is doing a lot of chasing back and closing down in areas of the pitch I don't think he should be. Burrell has great pace but I sometimes think that is better used away from home. However, give Kone a rest. Burrell up top, Chair behind him, then Saito, Madsen, Hayden and Smyth
At the moment Varane is to erratic. Does something great and then next move, stupidly gives it away. Madsen plays better when he knows what the person next to him is going to do.
Second half bring Kone on to bash up the centre backs | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 14:17 - Nov 5 with 2460 views | Hunterhoop |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:41 - Nov 5 by FDC |
I'm thinking we are now entering the "actually, we may need to play three in midfield you know!" stage of the season. I'd go with:
Aunt Sally
RND
Mbengue
Morrison
Dunne
Field
Madsen
Varane / Hayden
Saito
Burrell
Smyth |
It does feel like Stephan’s voyage of discovery might be similar to Cifuentes…and almost every head coach we’ve had in the last decade. ‘Twas ever thus. |  | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 14:19 - Nov 5 with 2453 views | Hunterhoop |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 09:47 - Nov 5 by TheChef |
Every time Chair comes back into the team after injury, our results drop off a cliff.
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It is odd, and counter intuitive. But there is a fair bit of truth in it. Warburton’s gamble year, Cifuentes, now Stephan. Think it happened under Ainsworth too.
It is so odd, because he is clearly a very good player. There must be something in Beale’s statement that “before joining I wasn’t sure you could win with Chair”, even though he then went on to praise him and get the best out of him anyone has. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 15:03 - Nov 5 with 2312 views | johncharles |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 08:41 - Nov 5 by FDC |
I'm thinking we are now entering the "actually, we may need to play three in midfield you know!" stage of the season. I'd go with:
Aunt Sally
RND
Mbengue
Morrison
Dunne
Field
Madsen
Varane / Hayden
Saito
Burrell
Smyth |
Far too sensible. You have to include a couple of totally bizarre selections, it’s the Stepan way |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 15:58 - Nov 5 with 2206 views | Rsole |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 15:03 - Nov 5 by johncharles |
Far too sensible. You have to include a couple of totally bizarre selections, it’s the Stepan way |
I would agree that it’s sensible and very possibly subject to an element of surprises in a couple of positions too.
Whether it’s yet another divergence from the alleged model or just the reality that different games and situations require some flexibility and an element of surprise, which not that long ago won us a game or two, I don’t really care.
It would just be good to show up, play competitively instead of bending over, not concede within minutes of the start/restart and maybe create some chances and take some. I’d go as far as classifying that as entertainment at this stage.
Hard to implement the changes though with just a few days between games - maybe we will see it after the next break - but I expect 433 will return on one form or another and it would be good to get Morgan and Kolli back to support it, even if they come on from the bench. |  |
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| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 16:17 - Nov 5 with 2135 views | thehat |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 14:19 - Nov 5 by Hunterhoop |
It is odd, and counter intuitive. But there is a fair bit of truth in it. Warburton’s gamble year, Cifuentes, now Stephan. Think it happened under Ainsworth too.
It is so odd, because he is clearly a very good player. There must be something in Beale’s statement that “before joining I wasn’t sure you could win with Chair”, even though he then went on to praise him and get the best out of him anyone has. |
I think Chair is better coming of the bench as he did at Preston last season and Swansea this season.
Unfortunately when he starts we seem to lose far more points than we gain. It continues to happen. Chair injured or at AFCON we seem to do OK. Chair comes straight back into the team we start to look shaky again.
Must be something in it.......and by the way I love Chair. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 16:29 - Nov 5 with 2104 views | Burnleyhoop |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 07:19 - Nov 5 by numptydumpty |
Am slightly concerned about Chair being back.
Changing the fluidity of the attack, slowing the game down and all attacking decisions going through him.
Think in particular, him being in the team, Madsen, Vale and Kone, their input and effectiveness has been lessened with the dynamics and emphasis of our attacking being slowed down and dominated by Chair.
Hope i am wrong but as a team, we have been a lot worse performance wise since the return of Chair and am concerned He may seem to be one of the better performers but if it is at the expense of three or four other players being worse than recently, not sure its brilliantly helpful for the overall team, he is back.
Hope i am wrong but have seen this so far.
This might be controversial but i would move Chair on, at the end of the season.
i think Vale is a better long term bet in the middle or as a ten with the squad we now have. i just hope Chair can adapt to making other players better as previously most players seem to perform worse than normal when Chair dominates. And i think the inventiveness of Madsen also will be lessened and Chair is not looking for Kone also.
Its a nagging concern.
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It’s a load of old cobblers.
Vale has been shocking in the last 3 games. Gives the ball away for fun.
If anyone can play the 10 role, it’s Chair. Kone can barely run, so totally wasted playing deep.
If Chair has passing options, he will pass. Usually to one of his teammates. | | | |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 17:11 - Nov 5 with 1985 views | TheChef |
| Southampton… How do we think we will line up? on 16:17 - Nov 5 by thehat |
I think Chair is better coming of the bench as he did at Preston last season and Swansea this season.
Unfortunately when he starts we seem to lose far more points than we gain. It continues to happen. Chair injured or at AFCON we seem to do OK. Chair comes straight back into the team we start to look shaky again.
Must be something in it.......and by the way I love Chair. |
I mean I love Chair too, usually he's fun to watch.
But it can't just be an unfortunate coincidence, can it? | |
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