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Please see the below sent to members of the CAB by Jamie Willoughby who has given us permission to share.
"My main message is to reassure all fans that this issue has the 100% focus of the Club, the board and the ownership group. There has understandably been much speculation amongst fans about what action should or could be taken at this point. We are looking at all available options. Some of the more extreme options have significant technical, logistical and/or regulatory challenges associated with them (and in some cases all three of these!) but we are not ruling anything out.
We are working through all of the possibilities with the various 3rd parties involved to assess feasibility. If we consider that any of the options are feasible / deliverable and will materially improve our position, we have the support of the majority ownership group to proceed with them.
In the meantime, we continue to carry out remedial work to the pitch and manage the current situation as best we can"
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Update on the pitch on 21:57 - Nov 11 with 4118 views
If I can find out this info you’d hope the powers that be will already be on it. That, or buying some duct tape to stick sheets of useless tarpaulin together!
Edit: not sure the link I posted there is for temporary use, this one could be worth trying…
You could argue that this spending on our pitch, rather than the squad, contributed to our poor performances on the turf over the last few years. You could argue that your spending on your squad, rather than once and for all sorting out your pitch, is what is keeping you towards the top of the league this season. It’ll catch up with you at some point.
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Update on the pitch on 22:56 - Nov 11 with 3891 views
Interesting. After overhearing a comment by a senior member of the groundstaff in the Ratcliffe earlier, I did wonder. He was certainly confident about Saturday.
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Update on the pitch on 23:11 - Nov 11 with 3827 views
Interesting. After overhearing a comment by a senior member of the groundstaff in the Ratcliffe earlier, I did wonder. He was certainly confident about Saturday.
Should we be positive MAK......? We need some positivity tonight after that performace.
Aldershot will need to know by Thursday afternoon if they are packing up the bus North.
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Update on the pitch on 09:14 - Nov 12 with 3536 views
Great news too the pitch was properly covered last night (although not inflated) for those torrential downpours. I dread to think what state the pitch would have been in with the old covers still on.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
If, as the update suggests, the covers are removed as late as possible on Saturday morning, it'll be interesting to see what temporary storage option is used, especially given the more extensive nature of the equipment deployed
If the covers are on hire, it's unlikely the hire company would be happy to see them just pushed to the sides of the pitch, but presumably a suitable solution has been found
If, as the update suggests, the covers are removed as late as possible on Saturday morning, it'll be interesting to see what temporary storage option is used, especially given the more extensive nature of the equipment deployed
If the covers are on hire, it's unlikely the hire company would be happy to see them just pushed to the sides of the pitch, but presumably a suitable solution has been found
There's a great vid here. They are on rollers in sections and zipped together. Presume they will be put back on rollers to store.
Its a BRILLIANT goal to cap a BRILLIANT start by Rochdale - Don Goodman 26/08/10
Great news. Should ensure Saturday goes ahead. Hopefully this is a winter solution to the pitch problems and not just a short term rental. It'll not just keep the rain off, it should prevent frozen pitches too. Hopefully the pitch sides will deal well with the high water run off from the pitched cover.
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Update on the pitch on 14:17 - Nov 12 with 2919 views
Yesterday it rained 4.3 mm , so on 7140 square meters of pitch at 1 litre per millimeter it means that over 1600 gallons fell on just the grass....all of which needs to drain away to somewhere.. hopefully not under the pitch...
I wonder if its cheaper to buy one of these tents and use it for 6 months every season than it is to dig the pitch up again next summer and put more drains down. ....it would also stop the " will it be on?" jitters every time it rains before a game and give certainty to coming to fans coming to a match....
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Update on the pitch on 15:14 - Nov 12 with 2808 views
Update on the pitch on 14:17 - Nov 12 by 49thseason
Yesterday it rained 4.3 mm , so on 7140 square meters of pitch at 1 litre per millimeter it means that over 1600 gallons fell on just the grass....all of which needs to drain away to somewhere.. hopefully not under the pitch...
I wonder if its cheaper to buy one of these tents and use it for 6 months every season than it is to dig the pitch up again next summer and put more drains down. ....it would also stop the " will it be on?" jitters every time it rains before a game and give certainty to coming to fans coming to a match....
The article states that the pitch was covered at various stage of yesterday.
We have to get the pitch done properly at some stage because, as we have seen, covering it to keep it dry in the lead up to a game is one thing, but it getting waterlogged mid-match will then be an issue when there is any significant rain.
Imagine leading 4-1 as York were last night and then having to endure that rain late on in the game, a ref would be abandoning a similar match at Spotland.
Update on the pitch on 14:17 - Nov 12 by 49thseason
Yesterday it rained 4.3 mm , so on 7140 square meters of pitch at 1 litre per millimeter it means that over 1600 gallons fell on just the grass....all of which needs to drain away to somewhere.. hopefully not under the pitch...
I wonder if its cheaper to buy one of these tents and use it for 6 months every season than it is to dig the pitch up again next summer and put more drains down. ....it would also stop the " will it be on?" jitters every time it rains before a game and give certainty to coming to fans coming to a match....
What do you mean by "1 litre per millimeter/millimetre"?
Litres measure volume, whereas mm measure length. Do you mean cubic mm (so volume of water) or square mm (so surface area of water)?
You mean you STILL haven't worked out why some posts get down-ticked?
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Update on the pitch on 15:50 - Nov 12 with 2699 views
Update on the pitch on 14:17 - Nov 12 by 49thseason
Yesterday it rained 4.3 mm , so on 7140 square meters of pitch at 1 litre per millimeter it means that over 1600 gallons fell on just the grass....all of which needs to drain away to somewhere.. hopefully not under the pitch...
I wonder if its cheaper to buy one of these tents and use it for 6 months every season than it is to dig the pitch up again next summer and put more drains down. ....it would also stop the " will it be on?" jitters every time it rains before a game and give certainty to coming to fans coming to a match....
Something a little off with these calculations.
A pitch area of 7140sqm with 4.3mm of water theoretically sitting on top, gives a volume of 30,702 litres. Using UK gallons, that works out at roughly 6,760 gallons. A bit more than you worked out.
Easy way to work out is for every sqm of pitch, if 10mm falls (as it often does at the moment) then x10 for litres. So on a typical 7000 sqm pitch every 10mm of rain = 70,000 litres.
Tent cover or no tent cover, the ground still has to deal with all awful lot of water.
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Update on the pitch on 17:04 - Nov 12 with 2498 views
What do you mean by "1 litre per millimeter/millimetre"?
Litres measure volume, whereas mm measure length. Do you mean cubic mm (so volume of water) or square mm (so surface area of water)?
"1 cm of rain means that if the water collected on a flat, non-absorbent surface, it would have a depth of 1 centimeter (10 millimeters). This equates to a volume of 10 liters of water per square meter." .ergo.. 1mm of rain = 1 litre per sq meter
1mm of rain on 1 sqm of pitch = 1 litre of water... multiply the mm of rainfall. ( 4.3mm) by the number of sqm of the pitch ( 68 x105 metres) = total rainfall in litres on the pitch .. convert to UK gallons.( 4.45609 litres = 1 Imperial Gallon ) . BTW one imperial Gallon weighs approximately 10 lbs ( 10.0389 lbs) if you want to know what all that water weighs Happy to help.....
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Update on the pitch on 18:37 - Nov 12 with 2306 views
Update on the pitch on 18:03 - Nov 12 by 49thseason
"1 cm of rain means that if the water collected on a flat, non-absorbent surface, it would have a depth of 1 centimeter (10 millimeters). This equates to a volume of 10 liters of water per square meter." .ergo.. 1mm of rain = 1 litre per sq meter
1mm of rain on 1 sqm of pitch = 1 litre of water... multiply the mm of rainfall. ( 4.3mm) by the number of sqm of the pitch ( 68 x105 metres) = total rainfall in litres on the pitch .. convert to UK gallons.( 4.45609 litres = 1 Imperial Gallon ) . BTW one imperial Gallon weighs approximately 10 lbs ( 10.0389 lbs) if you want to know what all that water weighs Happy to help.....
Have you taken naturally-occurring heavy water into account? i.e. where the hydrogen atoms are deuterium rather than protium?
Update on the pitch on 18:03 - Nov 12 by 49thseason
"1 cm of rain means that if the water collected on a flat, non-absorbent surface, it would have a depth of 1 centimeter (10 millimeters). This equates to a volume of 10 liters of water per square meter." .ergo.. 1mm of rain = 1 litre per sq meter
1mm of rain on 1 sqm of pitch = 1 litre of water... multiply the mm of rainfall. ( 4.3mm) by the number of sqm of the pitch ( 68 x105 metres) = total rainfall in litres on the pitch .. convert to UK gallons.( 4.45609 litres = 1 Imperial Gallon ) . BTW one imperial Gallon weighs approximately 10 lbs ( 10.0389 lbs) if you want to know what all that water weighs Happy to help.....
A pitch area of 7140sqm with 4.3mm of water theoretically sitting on top, gives a volume of 30,702 litres. Using UK gallons, that works out at roughly 6,760 gallons. A bit more than you worked out.
Easy way to work out is for every sqm of pitch, if 10mm falls (as it often does at the moment) then x10 for litres. So on a typical 7000 sqm pitch every 10mm of rain = 70,000 litres.
Tent cover or no tent cover, the ground still has to deal with all awful lot of water.
Thanks MAK, a nice, clear explanation.
You mean you STILL haven't worked out why some posts get down-ticked?
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Update on the pitch on 23:00 - Nov 12 with 1874 views
Looks a lot like the covers talked about last week and there has to be a lot of praise to the club for funding this route.
We’ll need some luck just before and during games too, any rain like the last ten minutes at York would be impossible to deal with.
Didn't we get told covering the pitch wasn't the main issue the problem is the water has nowhere to drain too once it runs off the pitch anyway, not sure how this cures the issue as the same amount of water that falls still wont be able to drain away from around the pitch anyway
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