| Expectations for the rest of the season 20:03 - Nov 9 with 16959 views | Rangersw12 |
What are everyone's expectations now that we a quarter a way through the season ?
For me personally, I think we very much underperforming, players from last season regressing with Dunne & Varane being the biggest culprits.
We finally have a bit of pace in the squad and also a couple of decent strikers but we just never seem to improve and now look the most unfit squad in the league . This is a very poor Championship ( look at the top 10 ) yet other clubs with similar budgets are out performing us again .
We should easily be top 10 this with an outside chance of pushing for the play offs but at the moment we seem way off .
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| Expectations for rest of the season on 20:05 - Nov 9 with 7359 views | Northernr |
We're 16th now and I'd be surprised if we're much further away from that come May.
I suspect at some point we'll have another really good streak of results which will get us into the top ten and have us all excited.
We'll also have another really poor streak of results which will move us uncomfortably close to the whirlpool and we'll probs have a game like Pompey at home on March 21 or PNE away on April 6 where the bed wetters switchboard will be taking calls in the build up.
Ultimately we'll be what we are and what we've been for a long time. A team that goes to third bottom Sheff Utd and is bloody delighted with a point.
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:16 - Nov 9 with 7245 views | Hunterhoop |
From what I have been told directly from someone senior at the club, the expectations for the season were top half - clear progress on last season.
I think I said on a LFW thread, mine were 12-14th. With this squad, compared to last year’s (especially up top) we really should be finishing higher up the table on more points. If we don’t that has to be seen as disappointing.
This season the league also seems to have fewer top sides. 3 reached 90 points last year. Looks like one, at most, will this season. A lot of mediocrity shown up with Preston and Millwall, two functional but no more, sides in the play offs.
So expectation remains 12-14th. The target should be top half though. Then you have a platform to progress from next season. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:30 - Nov 9 with 7169 views | CateLeBonR |
I’m struggling to find many teams much worse than us and equally many teams that much better than us. I think I said 12th at one stage and I’m going to stick with that. We seem to have quite a bit of talent in the squad so I think we’ll be ok but I agree with the manager’s comments that we’re too inefficient to achieve much. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:30 - Nov 9 with 7168 views | GaryBannister86 |
Stephan's rotating will cause us to lose heavily at home to Hull, the Board will panic, and the away game at Blackburn will be one of those where everyone knows he has already been sacked. Liam Manning will crank up the ironyometer by being in our dugout for Carrow Road.
You read it here first. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:34 - Nov 9 with 7152 views | Hunterhoop |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:30 - Nov 9 by GaryBannister86 |
Stephan's rotating will cause us to lose heavily at home to Hull, the Board will panic, and the away game at Blackburn will be one of those where everyone knows he has already been sacked. Liam Manning will crank up the ironyometer by being in our dugout for Carrow Road.
You read it here first. |
Liam Manning was on one of our short lists for the gig here a few years/managers back, I’m sure. Anyone recall when exactly. Was it Les’ tenure? Wonder if Retexo were involved at that point. The irony if they weren’t and we end up another head coach who was on Les’ shortlist from years back | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:36 - Nov 9 with 7148 views | Northernr |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:34 - Nov 9 by Hunterhoop |
Liam Manning was on one of our short lists for the gig here a few years/managers back, I’m sure. Anyone recall when exactly. Was it Les’ tenure? Wonder if Retexo were involved at that point. The irony if they weren’t and we end up another head coach who was on Les’ shortlist from years back |
Manning was on the list when Beale walked into the room. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:42 - Nov 9 with 7123 views | Hunterhoop |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:36 - Nov 9 by Northernr |
Manning was on the list when Beale walked into the room. |
Of course. That was pre-Retexo then, I think. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 20:50 - Nov 9 with 7094 views | ted_hendrix |
Continuing in the vein of win some lose some I'd expect us to finish exactly where we currently are 16th
We are bang on bloody average with a bang on bloody average squad of players apart from maybe a couple of what I'd call half decent players who on the odd Occasion actually look bloody good.
At this stage of the season It Is somewhat strange and disappointing that we are going out to the Job Centre and trying to entice long since retired goalkeepers out of retirement because apparently we have run out of goalkeepers.
As Siddhartha Gautama, more commonly known as the Buddha once shouted from the touchline; "Watch the runner, watch the bloody runner you stupid bastard Unbelievers"
Oh the excitement of It all. [Post edited 9 Nov 20:52]
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:01 - Nov 9 with 7022 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I think anything is up for grabs.
We have a novice CEO/DOF, with a novice new structure and staff reporting directly to him, and not to the Head Coach.
Fitness continues to be a major concern, but that's not within the Head Coach's purview.
Set Pieces are now a concern, but that's not within the Head Coach's purview.
We have a manager who's had real success elsewhere, and that's really encouraging.
But he doesn't know this division and he's clearly not adhering to the CEO/DOF's previously-advertised game model. The potential for future conflict can not be discounted.
We have some encouraging signings.
We have some good Championship pros.
We are not tougher.
We are not fitter.
We are not harder.
An Oaklands-type recovery is possible, and we may win twenty on the spin, but the thing that everyone forgets about that Oaklands team's turnaround is that it was rooted in great personal relations and a fine team spirit.
In every dressing room, since they put a roof on the first one, that is the key. |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:18 - Nov 9 with 6939 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Based on vibes and a lot of gossip, I feel that the main obstruction to success is poor morale.
If they
- Bring Kolli back in
- Reconfigure the unpopular fitness regime out
- Reconcile the senior players they've pissed off (Cook, Nardi, Field)
We could have a successful season, which to me is top half maybe 6th. We have a talented manager and squad which the club deserves credit for assembling. That's something. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:18 - Nov 9 with 6944 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I said top half/top 10 if we signed a really good CM and that we would struggle if we didn't. We didn't.
I also failed to appreciate how much JS was adverse to actually playing the best 11 for more than one game. | |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:39 - Nov 9 with 6875 views | Northernr |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:18 - Nov 9 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
I said top half/top 10 if we signed a really good CM and that we would struggle if we didn't. We didn't.
I also failed to appreciate how much JS was adverse to actually playing the best 11 for more than one game. |
For all the improvements in summer recruitment (and there were), they took a squad with issues in goal, at full back and in midfield into the window and came out with the same. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:43 - Nov 9 with 6864 views | colinallcars |
I dunno, most of the players in the squad have put in good performances for us.
But they seem to go off the boil. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:49 - Nov 9 with 6838 views | Logman |
I'm not expecting a turnaround any time soon. Club has made a total mess since suspicions started to be aroused around Marti and while the team worked a good run in October I think the leadership is quite poor and there are quite a few under-currents in the club. If I'm being honest I think we will be in the bottom six this season. Sorry. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:51 - Nov 9 with 6815 views | rbee |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:39 - Nov 9 by Northernr |
For all the improvements in summer recruitment (and there were), they took a squad with issues in goal, at full back and in midfield into the window and came out with the same. |
Not quite the same as we discovered a new midfielder hiding in plain sight called Madsen.
Last season we finished 15th so after a spend up, by our standards, in the summer we should be finishing higher than that. If we don't then it should be considered a failure. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:53 - Nov 9 with 6821 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:39 - Nov 9 by Northernr |
For all the improvements in summer recruitment (and there were), they took a squad with issues in goal, at full back and in midfield into the window and came out with the same. |
Lack of money and priorities, I suppose. I can understand them having to pick and choose where to strengthen and where to pray and hope. Yet buying Saito ahead of a CM still seems extravagant, especially as Kolli was meant to be the next big thing.
The manager, though, with this incessant rotation, is worrying. The players don't look particularly happy either. Did he do this at previous clubs? | |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:58 - Nov 9 with 6775 views | rbee |
A few of us think that Saito's signing had an element of 'keep the fans happy' about it. To be fair he got off to a cracking start and showed what he can do. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 22:02 - Nov 9 with 6768 views | Northernr |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:53 - Nov 9 by Wilkinswatercarrier |
Lack of money and priorities, I suppose. I can understand them having to pick and choose where to strengthen and where to pray and hope. Yet buying Saito ahead of a CM still seems extravagant, especially as Kolli was meant to be the next big thing.
The manager, though, with this incessant rotation, is worrying. The players don't look particularly happy either. Did he do this at previous clubs? |
Said at the time I love Saito, glad he’s here, but £2.8m down with more to come on him, and that position, instead of buying a proper CM was a bit punchy. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 22:13 - Nov 9 with 6727 views | dmm |
In August I felt we could end the season between 10th and 12th place. I still feel the same. Sure, it's been a disappointing few weeks but there are still six months of football to come. A lot will happen and some of it will be good. |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 22:37 - Nov 9 with 6650 views | davman |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:39 - Nov 9 by Northernr |
For all the improvements in summer recruitment (and there were), they took a squad with issues in goal, at full back and in midfield into the window and came out with the same. |
Agree, but being slightly more benevolent that team's biggest issues was the "strike force".
The gk situation was no sort of problem at the end of the season. The midfielder problem was the lack of box to box energy. It still is. The fullback situation is ridiculous and I am as relieved as Larkeche being injured as I am Walsh.
When can we talk about the lack of creativity from the pygmy ballers the club has recruited? |  |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 22:57 - Nov 9 with 6575 views | OakR |
I think we will finish around 10th. I'm feeling confident we will finish higher than last year.
Our squad is better than last year, and we hopefullly have a good manager, but both players, the team and manager are learning and I think we will improve second half of the season.
I also think we will make a signing or two in Jan which will help.
I'm definitely glass half full. | |
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| Expectations for the rest of the season on 23:09 - Nov 9 with 6545 views | Hunterhoop |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 21:01 - Nov 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think anything is up for grabs.
We have a novice CEO/DOF, with a novice new structure and staff reporting directly to him, and not to the Head Coach.
Fitness continues to be a major concern, but that's not within the Head Coach's purview.
Set Pieces are now a concern, but that's not within the Head Coach's purview.
We have a manager who's had real success elsewhere, and that's really encouraging.
But he doesn't know this division and he's clearly not adhering to the CEO/DOF's previously-advertised game model. The potential for future conflict can not be discounted.
We have some encouraging signings.
We have some good Championship pros.
We are not tougher.
We are not fitter.
We are not harder.
An Oaklands-type recovery is possible, and we may win twenty on the spin, but the thing that everyone forgets about that Oaklands team's turnaround is that it was rooted in great personal relations and a fine team spirit.
In every dressing room, since they put a roof on the first one, that is the key. |
Spot on, as is Baz. And as you can see from his post there are some serious issues on your last point, Bri, which need addressing. | | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 23:38 - Nov 9 with 6485 views | daveB |
given the money we've spent and the players we have I think the aim should be top half but I thought at the start of the season it would be similar to last year, a flirt with thw playoffs but ultimatlry finish bottom 8, I still think the same but wouldn't be hugely shocked if we finished 10th or went down. This is a squad and a club that can go either way at this stage |  | | |
| Expectations for the rest of the season on 00:04 - Nov 10 with 6411 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
Difficult to know because we don't know what the expectations are. I keep coming back to the fact that we now have the CEO's choice of coach in charge of the CEO's squad. There's no bogeyman to blame for poor performances or form.
We could go out and soundly beat Hull or we could lose our fourth home game in a row. It's tough enough to predict our starting line-up! | | | |
| Expectations for rest of the season on 01:20 - Nov 10 with 6344 views | Match82 |
| Expectations for rest of the season on 20:05 - Nov 9 by Northernr |
We're 16th now and I'd be surprised if we're much further away from that come May.
I suspect at some point we'll have another really good streak of results which will get us into the top ten and have us all excited.
We'll also have another really poor streak of results which will move us uncomfortably close to the whirlpool and we'll probs have a game like Pompey at home on March 21 or PNE away on April 6 where the bed wetters switchboard will be taking calls in the build up.
Ultimately we'll be what we are and what we've been for a long time. A team that goes to third bottom Sheff Utd and is bloody delighted with a point.
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Indeed. The excitement is really just finding out which of those two runs will come first |  | | |
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