| Madness that is net zero 08:15 - Apr 11 with 3049 views | Boundy |
Well net zero is true to its word , zero fuel security ,zero hope and now zero job opportunities .Why is this Governmemt hell bent on destroying our economy and country.
Anyone on the left care to comment ?
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| Madness that is net zero on 10:29 - Apr 11 with 1697 views | max936 |
Starmer is to gutless to stop that clown Miliband, probably because of the position he was in previously in the Labour party, he ducked that up as well, he's just a giggling fek wit.
Starmer is keeping him sweet in an attempt to improve is standing, delusion runs deep in Starmers head. |  | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 10:40 - Apr 11 with 1686 views | onehunglow |
| Madness that is net zero on 10:29 - Apr 11 by max936 |
Starmer is to gutless to stop that clown Miliband, probably because of the position he was in previously in the Labour party, he ducked that up as well, he's just a giggling fek wit.
Starmer is keeping him sweet in an attempt to improve is standing, delusion runs deep in Starmers head. |
Miliband is insane
He’s dangerous
He will cause immense irreparable damage
Has to go | |
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| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 10:50 - Apr 11 with 1678 views | Gwyn737 |
Apart from the fact the company has not mentioned anything about net zero?
They’re just truing to get a batter deal.
Are no jobs created by green energy?
It’s an Express article so nobody should be surprised with its interpretation. [Post edited 11 Apr 10:54]
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| Madness that is net zero on 11:01 - Apr 11 with 1659 views | max936 |
| Madness that is net zero on 10:40 - Apr 11 by onehunglow |
Miliband is insane
He’s dangerous
He will cause immense irreparable damage
Has to go |
He's already caused damage, every time I see the clown interviewed he just grins and giggles, he's another of this Labour parties utter clowns. | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 12:40 - Apr 11 with 1622 views | AnotherJohn |
Even Rachel, Sarwar, Swinney and now Blair are calling for a more balanced approach in the transition to net zero, and in the latter's case, stating flatly that Miliband's approach is ideological rather than pragmatic. I think we all want to get to net zero eventually, but not at the cost of destroying British industry to get there. It is becoming apparent that high energy costs aren't just making traditional heavy industry uneconomic but also affected enterprises in areas like AI innovation and big data processing. | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 12:44 - Apr 11 with 1604 views | controversial_jack |
| Madness that is net zero on 10:29 - Apr 11 by max936 |
Starmer is to gutless to stop that clown Miliband, probably because of the position he was in previously in the Labour party, he ducked that up as well, he's just a giggling fek wit.
Starmer is keeping him sweet in an attempt to improve is standing, delusion runs deep in Starmers head. |
Govt isn't a dictatorship. It's not like the USA. Ministers are free to decide what's best for their dept | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 13:58 - Apr 11 with 1584 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Madness that is net zero on 12:44 - Apr 11 by controversial_jack |
Govt isn't a dictatorship. It's not like the USA. Ministers are free to decide what's best for their dept |
If they are not doing a good job the PM can sack them.
I've come to the conclusion that those who think it's good for our economy to have some of the highest energy costs in the OECD and to be 25 to 80 percent higher than those costs in Europe probably don't run a business or work in one that has to make more income than it costs to produce that income. [Post edited 11 Apr 14:03]
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| Madness that is net zero on 15:24 - Apr 11 with 1543 views | max936 |
| Madness that is net zero on 13:58 - Apr 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
If they are not doing a good job the PM can sack them.
I've come to the conclusion that those who think it's good for our economy to have some of the highest energy costs in the OECD and to be 25 to 80 percent higher than those costs in Europe probably don't run a business or work in one that has to make more income than it costs to produce that income. [Post edited 11 Apr 14:03]
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My electric bill is shocking most months. | | | |
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| Madness that is net zero on 15:55 - Apr 11 with 1523 views | majorraglan |
The headline for the Daily Express’s article is misleading - surprise surprise not!
One of the reasons given by the energy company is “energy costs” but as Gwyn has identified, nowhere has the company concerned referenced net zero etc. in addition to the costs issue, the AI company have also made reference to a second issue (which the Daily Express has only acknowledged briefly in the last sentence) which is one of regulation - specifically the ability to and use copyrighted material belonging to others. Owners of material, such as musicians don’t want their stuff being used without payment and they want creative control.
In terms of our power generating capacity and the grid, it’s been an issue for years and something that numerous governments have kicked down the road. Electricity usage is increasing significantly and the country has not invested in sufficient generating capacity to the extent there have been numerous reports about the potential for blackouts in the future. The wholesale price of our electricity is determined by the most expensive source on a particular day which in invariably gas, so all generators are paid for each KWH by the gas price and it’s been like this for years, if we had a different system our bills would be cheaper. Whole system needs to be looked at. I’m all in favour of renewables, but they need to be part of a diverse supply system. [Post edited 11 Apr 18:40]
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| Madness that is net zero on 17:13 - Apr 11 with 1495 views | Scotia |
Of course if the Tories hadn't put a moratorium on English inshore wind power this could be a non issue.
As others have pointed out this is nothing to do with net zero, I also don't understand why it's a left v right thing. It's just investing in infrastructure. | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 17:19 - Apr 11 with 1489 views | Gwyn737 |
| Madness that is net zero on 15:55 - Apr 11 by majorraglan |
The headline for the Daily Express’s article is misleading - surprise surprise not!
One of the reasons given by the energy company is “energy costs” but as Gwyn has identified, nowhere has the company concerned referenced net zero etc. in addition to the costs issue, the AI company have also made reference to a second issue (which the Daily Express has only acknowledged briefly in the last sentence) which is one of regulation - specifically the ability to and use copyrighted material belonging to others. Owners of material, such as musicians don’t want their stuff being used without payment and they want creative control.
In terms of our power generating capacity and the grid, it’s been an issue for years and something that numerous governments have kicked down the road. Electricity usage is increasing significantly and the country has not invested in sufficient generating capacity to the extent there have been numerous reports about the potential for blackouts in the future. The wholesale price of our electricity is determined by the most expensive source on a particular day which in invariably gas, so all generators are paid for each KWH by the gas price and it’s been like this for years, if we had a different system our bills would be cheaper. Whole system needs to be looked at. I’m all in favour of renewables, but they need to be part of a diverse supply system. [Post edited 11 Apr 18:40]
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Much more eloquently than you could have written.
I think I’m done one here. I think I’ll leave it to the echo chamber. [Post edited 11 Apr 17:50]
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| Madness that is net zero on 17:56 - Apr 11 with 1460 views | builthjack |
My electricity bill of £100 a month seems good. About £3 a day. |  |
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| Madness that is net zero on 18:17 - Apr 11 with 1450 views | Whiterockin |
| Madness that is net zero on 17:56 - Apr 11 by builthjack |
My electricity bill of £100 a month seems good. About £3 a day. |
I didn't know you had electricity up there. |  | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 19:04 - Apr 11 with 1412 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Madness that is net zero on 15:24 - Apr 11 by max936 |
My electric bill is shocking most months. |
......and my gas bill stinks. | |
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| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 19:11 - Apr 11 with 1408 views | Boundy |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 10:50 - Apr 11 by Gwyn737 |
Apart from the fact the company has not mentioned anything about net zero?
They’re just truing to get a batter deal.
Are no jobs created by green energy?
It’s an Express article so nobody should be surprised with its interpretation. [Post edited 11 Apr 10:54]
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| Madness that is net zero on 19:12 - Apr 11 with 1407 views | Boundy |
| Madness that is net zero on 17:19 - Apr 11 by Gwyn737 |
Much more eloquently than you could have written.
I think I’m done one here. I think I’ll leave it to the echo chamber. [Post edited 11 Apr 17:50]
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| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 21:46 - Apr 11 with 1359 views | Scotia |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 19:11 - Apr 11 by Boundy |
Do you agree with net zero and if so why ? |
I do. It's essential.
Not heading down that route will decimate life on earth, moreso than the meteor and associated events that made the dinosaurs extinct. It makes pretty much everyone's lives worse already.
I genuinely don't understand the issue with "clean" energy generation, what is the problem?
Of course the bloke who funds Reform makes his money from selling fossil fuels but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 21:51 - Apr 11 with 1350 views | Scotia |
| Madness that is net zero on 15:24 - Apr 11 by max936 |
My electric bill is shocking most months. |
Energy firm profits tracker https://share.google/A05kR4iGX
This is where it's going. | | | |
| Madness that is net zero on 21:54 - Apr 11 with 1347 views | builthjack |
| Madness that is net zero on 18:17 - Apr 11 by Whiterockin |
I didn't know you had electricity up there. |
Had it a while now. It’s good. It helps pump the water from the well. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Madness that is net zero on 00:02 - Apr 12 with 1318 views | max936 |
| Madness that is net zero on 18:17 - Apr 11 by Whiterockin |
I didn't know you had electricity up there. |
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| Madness that is net zero on 00:11 - Apr 12 with 1315 views | max936 |
| Madness that is net zero on 19:04 - Apr 11 by JACKMANANDBOY |
......and my gas bill stinks. |
Mine included, my lad's lads purpose built adapted room and bathroom is north facing and despite the adequate insulation, its still the coldest room in the house.
My Koi pond costs me 20 quid a month on average electric use, washing machine and dryer is on most day's with my youngest's clothes, he's on loads of meds which affects his bowel movements and you can guess the rest. [Post edited 12 Apr 0:35]
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| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 10:34 - Apr 12 with 1195 views | controversial_jack |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 21:46 - Apr 11 by Scotia |
I do. It's essential.
Not heading down that route will decimate life on earth, moreso than the meteor and associated events that made the dinosaurs extinct. It makes pretty much everyone's lives worse already.
I genuinely don't understand the issue with "clean" energy generation, what is the problem?
Of course the bloke who funds Reform makes his money from selling fossil fuels but I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. |
Countries in the middle east and elsewhere are blowing each other up, setting fire to refineries ammo dumps and the like, and we are concerned about net zero | | | |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 11:56 - Apr 12 with 1170 views | union_jack |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 10:34 - Apr 12 by controversial_jack |
Countries in the middle east and elsewhere are blowing each other up, setting fire to refineries ammo dumps and the like, and we are concerned about net zero |
Hang on! Are you on the side of common sense and reality for once??😳👍 |  |
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| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 14:08 - Apr 12 with 1145 views | onehunglow |
| Madness that is net zero (n/t) on 10:34 - Apr 12 by controversial_jack |
Countries in the middle east and elsewhere are blowing each other up, setting fire to refineries ammo dumps and the like, and we are concerned about net zero |
Good post | |
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