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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. 10:46 - Apr 9 with 13299 viewssilky

Not a telegraph reader and don't have the premium package to read the whole article but this is interesting none the less.

Hope he doesn't get eaten up into some top 4 academy and never fulfil his potential.

9 years old eh? Just leave the kid alone, got the whole of his school life in front of him first.....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/04/08/can-clubs-like-qpr-develop-talent

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:23 - Apr 9 with 9128 viewsRoller

There's a fella on dot org whose posted the whole article. Les Ferdinand has suggested a possible solution to this problem.


There is a footballer at Queens Park Rangers who has attracted the attention of Arsenal and Tottenham Hotspur and now further afield to the two big Manchester clubs, and by the end of the season the chances are that he will bid farewell to Loftus Road for pastures new.

Despite the considerable efforts by various clubs to secure his signature, you will not have read about him in the transfer news for one reason above all: he is nine years old.

Telegraph Sport is aware of his identity but given that we are not in the business of publishing the names of year four schoolkids in the football coverage that will remain undisclosed for the time being.

This is a boy whose name is well-known in football development circles for his outstanding promise can be signed from QPR’s academy this summer for a £3,000 compensation fee. Where his future takes him, only time will tell, but it also begs the question where it leaves QPR, and clubs like them, as they try to develop their own talent in the hyper-competitive new landscape of development football.

QPR have not always got it right in the last ten years but they now have a proper structure built by Les Ferdinand, their director of football, and former manager Chris Ramsey, now the academy director.

Under the Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP) the club’s academy is rated category two chiefly because it is split over two sites in the west London suburbs and it is starting to produce players again.

Darnell Furlong, son of former QPR striker Paul, has come through the ranks while Ryan Manning and Niko Hamalainen have been scouted in their late teens.

The club has a bountiful urban catchment area across the west and northwest of London which yielded Raheem Sterling, who left for Liverpool in 2012 without making a senior QPR appearance. Yet there has not been an academy player established in the first team since Richard Langley and Marcus Bean, more than 10 years ago.

QPR had a great tradition of developing players in the late 1970s and 1980s with many of the team that reached the 1982 FA Cup final having come through its youth programme. That era has had a shadow cast over it by serious allegations of sexual abuse against the youth development officer, the late Chris Gieler - a legacy the club has to deal with.

In the modern age, however, QPR are trying to compete again for the best young local players. The likelihood is that not all will stay forever but it would rather not lose them at just nine years old. “For QPR, our academy has to be our future,” Ferdinand said when we spoke this week. “It makes it very, very difficult if you’re losing them at nine years old.”

Ferdinand himself went to school in Shepherds Bush round the corner from Loftus Road but was missed by the system, coming through non-league at Southall and Hayes before developing into one of the greatest Premier League strikers of the 1990s. He played in goal until he was 15, which he confesses must have thrown a few scouts off the scent, but the chances of a teenager of his potential being overlooked in 2017 are nil.

“Our player is being pursued by not just one club but a few clubs,” he says. “Let’s get it right, the top clubs stockpile players. There are 85 per cent who don’t make it through the system. At QPR he has got more chance of playing in our first team.”

Then there is the financial side. Under Premier League rules no inducements can be paid to the families of children moving clubs but no-one is under any illusions that this is what gets deals done. Some clubs have paid up to £1,200 a month in what is euphemistically known as “welfare expenses” and given that the maximum EPPP compensation for an 11-year-old is £9,000, this kind of talent mine-sweeping makes financial sense for the wealthiest clubs.

Ferdinand has a proposal that might offer some protection to clubs like QPR. Every player signed from another academy is assessed at an agreed age when he has reached adulthood, and a value assigned to him — whether he is to be sold or not. Then a percentage of that value is paid to his club of origin. It may at least stop the trawling for talent if the buying club knows that a £3,000 compensation fee could end up eventually as a £3 million bill.

In the meantime Ferdinand has to go back to motivating his academy staff and around 30 scouts to go on finding and developing the best talent for QPR’s first team. “I want them to get out there and find the best players in our area. That is really difficult if someone is just going to come along and nick them. All the hard work you put in. Then years down the line the supporters want to know: how did we let him go?”

The big clubs have always signed the best talent, but there was a fair deal for the selling party. Ferdinand earned QPR £6 million when he moved to Newcastle United in 1995, which, aside from the Sterling sell-on fees, remains the highest amount paid for any player who began his career at the club.

It would be nice to think that a nine-year-old local lad could come through the QPR ranks and stir the blood of the Loftus Road faithful before perhaps spreading his wings and moving on. In other words, enjoying a similar career path to the one trod by Ferdinand, although the system is loaded against it happening again.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:11 - Apr 9 with 9059 viewsnadera78

Jesus! Football really is populated by blood-sucking vampires. It's nothing short of despicable.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:28 - Apr 9 with 9032 viewsTacticalR

Thanks for the article roller.

I am surprised that these clubs have to pay £3,000 compensation.

Surely they could have devised a scheme whereby other clubs are fined for having players that rightly belong to Arsenal, Tottenham Hotspur or 'the two big Manchester clubs'?
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:28 - Apr 9 with 9030 viewsPlanetHonneywood

There's another solution, clubs can't sign kids until they're 16!

In the interim, kids play school and/or youth club football and pro clubs can work with the schools and youth clubs to develop training. I'd possibly consider pro clubs could organise summer camps and invite kids to attend from say, age 13, and kids are free to attend any of these camps as they see fit and, without obligation either way.

What is more repugnant, is how the European clubs trawl Africa and South America to bring kids over and simply discard them to an uncertain future if they don't make the grade.

Utter madness!

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:38 - Apr 9 with 9008 viewsTacticalR

Big clubs should be allowed to use anti-drugs legislation to kick down doors and seize children they are interested in. This is for the good of English football and will lead to numerous World Cup victories.

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:38 - Apr 9 with 9005 viewsdavman

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:28 - Apr 9 by PlanetHonneywood

There's another solution, clubs can't sign kids until they're 16!

In the interim, kids play school and/or youth club football and pro clubs can work with the schools and youth clubs to develop training. I'd possibly consider pro clubs could organise summer camps and invite kids to attend from say, age 13, and kids are free to attend any of these camps as they see fit and, without obligation either way.

What is more repugnant, is how the European clubs trawl Africa and South America to bring kids over and simply discard them to an uncertain future if they don't make the grade.

Utter madness!


Completely and utterly this.

BUT whilst there are players ready to make their debuts at 16 or even 15, you may need to drop that age limit to 14.

Football is a skin trade. Get 10,000 wrong for one right is cost effective in the odious world Murdoch and Scudamore have created...

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:48 - Apr 9 with 8990 viewsnadera78

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:28 - Apr 9 by PlanetHonneywood

There's another solution, clubs can't sign kids until they're 16!

In the interim, kids play school and/or youth club football and pro clubs can work with the schools and youth clubs to develop training. I'd possibly consider pro clubs could organise summer camps and invite kids to attend from say, age 13, and kids are free to attend any of these camps as they see fit and, without obligation either way.

What is more repugnant, is how the European clubs trawl Africa and South America to bring kids over and simply discard them to an uncertain future if they don't make the grade.

Utter madness!


Absolutely.

When the Academy structure was first established 20 years ago the clubs all said they needed greater access to the kids, to train and develop them, in order to produce better players and ultimately a better England team. Well, every single word of that is palpably false - we do not produce better players and the England team is worse than ever. The improvements in the PL have come from the money generated being spent on foreign players to give every club bigger and more balanced squads.

Take the QPR team of the early/mid-90's as an example. It doesn't have the squad depth that the modern PL clubs do, but the Starting XI would comfortably be in the top 6 of today's PL. And it played attacking football.

Leave the kids to play junior football until they're 16, each pro club to run U18/21 teams, and spend the money currently being wasted on Academies on facilities for junior clubs so the kids have better pitches and changing rooms.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 13:19 - Apr 9 with 8918 viewsDejR_vu

Exactly why Brentford binned their academy.

Unfortunately, it's not just the clubs that are at fault. Stupid, greedy parents are just as culpable. For 95% of boys it's better to stay away from the big clubs, but as soon as they show an interest the parents can't get them there quickly enough and plaster it all over Facebook.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 14:10 - Apr 9 with 8813 viewsWrightUp5hit___

The implementation of the Elite Player Performance Plan was like turkeys voting for Christmas.

No need to get indignant about it now, it's been going on for years.

And posters bemoan the lack of home grown players? they should listen more to what is going on a create a 5hitstorm of exposure of the venality of the Premier League and the "top" clubs.

How many youth teams at each age group do Chelsea run? How many youth players have made it to their first team in recent years?

And the EFL clubs have agreed to a requirement for more home grown players in the team for next season.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 00:28 - Apr 10 with 8408 viewsTacticalR

These clubs now have such huge herds of players that they threaten the ecosystem.

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 05:57 - Apr 10 with 8326 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:38 - Apr 9 by davman

Completely and utterly this.

BUT whilst there are players ready to make their debuts at 16 or even 15, you may need to drop that age limit to 14.

Football is a skin trade. Get 10,000 wrong for one right is cost effective in the odious world Murdoch and Scudamore have created...


Not without merit.

However, aside of the questionable hot-housing of young talent and then the trauma some face when discarded - that's without the possible ramifications for their education - there is also the problem of physically damaging kids by playing too much sport and over-conditioning. This is especially so in sports like rugby, rowing and Yankee ball for example.

Sometimes a person's body continues to grow until age 21. But nowadays, a lot of kids are bulking up in the gym and this is putting strains on their body as it grows and storing problems for later life and I suspect that as more gym work is being done over the last few years, in around 10-15 years time, we'll see athletes with chronic physiological problems.

Over-playing at a young age certainly brought Michael Owen's career to a premature end and older Rfosi may recall Tommy Caton, who was in the City First XI at 16 and was pretty much crocked by his late 20s.

Personally I'm still of the view that we should be proceeding with more caution with kids. God knows we can discount ethics and morality being traits a football club would deploy, but letting kids finish school, not put too much strain on their bodies, being allowed to just play and by 16, you can identify talent and work with them then.

Won't happen! There are huge sums of cash involved and as we know, that's the driver here.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 08:35 - Apr 10 with 8218 views18StoneOfHoop

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 05:57 - Apr 10 by PlanetHonneywood

Not without merit.

However, aside of the questionable hot-housing of young talent and then the trauma some face when discarded - that's without the possible ramifications for their education - there is also the problem of physically damaging kids by playing too much sport and over-conditioning. This is especially so in sports like rugby, rowing and Yankee ball for example.

Sometimes a person's body continues to grow until age 21. But nowadays, a lot of kids are bulking up in the gym and this is putting strains on their body as it grows and storing problems for later life and I suspect that as more gym work is being done over the last few years, in around 10-15 years time, we'll see athletes with chronic physiological problems.

Over-playing at a young age certainly brought Michael Owen's career to a premature end and older Rfosi may recall Tommy Caton, who was in the City First XI at 16 and was pretty much crocked by his late 20s.

Personally I'm still of the view that we should be proceeding with more caution with kids. God knows we can discount ethics and morality being traits a football club would deploy, but letting kids finish school, not put too much strain on their bodies, being allowed to just play and by 16, you can identify talent and work with them then.

Won't happen! There are huge sums of cash involved and as we know, that's the driver here.
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Another clear well-expressed spot on applied common sense post, JH.

On the 'played too much much too young' thereby causing burn out and early premature career end:
add Wayne Rooney to that ever-lengthening list.. *sigh*

BTW talking of the 'rape' of kids
If it had been a mid-teen vulnerable pubescent boy rather than a girl, that GR brought back to his room @ Hammersmith Novotel, would long-term SW6 Scumford Bridge stalwart Graham Rix's gross abuse of position been dealt with so lightly? ("With a packet of crisps and a cheeky smile...")
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 08:52 - Apr 10 with 8192 viewsderbyhoop

The hoovering of talent by the big clubs has gone on for years. EPPL has skewed the market even more towards the bigger clubs who run level 1 academies. For smaller clubs like us Warren Farm becomes vital as, without such a facility, we'll be stuck at level 2 and be unable to hold on to the best youngsters we recruit.


Here's a cautionary tale. About 10-15 years ago a lad called Mikey Malcolm was on Wycombe's books and attracting interest from several big clubs. An U14 behind closed doors friendly was arranged with Arsenal. Wycombe U14s beat Arsenal U14s 2-1. Malcolm scored both. However, the deal was finally done with Spurs and, if he'd reached his potential (England international level?) Wycombe would have banked over £1m. After 2 years at Spurs he fell out with Clive Allen and got bounced. He drifted around the lower leagues and disappeared.

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 09:02 - Apr 10 with 8175 viewsNorthernr

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 08:52 - Apr 10 by derbyhoop

The hoovering of talent by the big clubs has gone on for years. EPPL has skewed the market even more towards the bigger clubs who run level 1 academies. For smaller clubs like us Warren Farm becomes vital as, without such a facility, we'll be stuck at level 2 and be unable to hold on to the best youngsters we recruit.


Here's a cautionary tale. About 10-15 years ago a lad called Mikey Malcolm was on Wycombe's books and attracting interest from several big clubs. An U14 behind closed doors friendly was arranged with Arsenal. Wycombe U14s beat Arsenal U14s 2-1. Malcolm scored both. However, the deal was finally done with Spurs and, if he'd reached his potential (England international level?) Wycombe would have banked over £1m. After 2 years at Spurs he fell out with Clive Allen and got bounced. He drifted around the lower leagues and disappeared.


I remember Chelsea nicking Oliver Sprague out of our youth set up when he was about 9 or something like that. Usual story, parked, zero first team action, ended up at Watford for a bit, now drifting round non-league...

http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/sport/football/sprague-content-to-be-back-in-famil
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 09:11 - Apr 10 with 8154 viewsPlanetHonneywood

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 09:02 - Apr 10 by Northernr

I remember Chelsea nicking Oliver Sprague out of our youth set up when he was about 9 or something like that. Usual story, parked, zero first team action, ended up at Watford for a bit, now drifting round non-league...

http://www.kilburntimes.co.uk/sport/football/sprague-content-to-be-back-in-famil


At least he's home. I read some disturbing stuff about kids from Africa discarded by clubs in Europe, feeling unable to go home and falling into the sex trade.

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 09:30 - Apr 10 with 8123 viewsTacticalR

From a previous discussion...

'In a strange schizophrenia, top clubs are pouring unprecedented sums into youth development but offering fewer openings to players who emerge.'

The footballers who are all pay, no play
http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/queensparkrangers/forum/87014/the-football
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:14 - Apr 10 with 8058 viewspaulparker

the blame lies on the clubs but the parents are something else ,
One of Mrs P mates has a son at Watford who made the bench against West Brom the other night now this women is a single mum with about 3 or 4 other kids and all she can talk about is how her son is going to make her live in a mansion and give her a flash life that she should never work/claim again , how is that right ? parents should be encouraging their kids to join the right club be a better person and to enjoy the game, you know actually make appearances
I read the other day about a 16 year old Chelsea player buying his dad a 25k motor for FFS , if I was that lads Dad I would have taken the Car back and told him not to be a flash fcuker
funny I remember that Dean Parrets mum on here saying that our training facilities were poor etc that Spurs was a wonderful opportunity and that she was a spurs fan and he had to go , well Parret I think was on the verge of being in our matchday squad at 15 ? and would have made a few sub appearances he may have even played a bit the following year for , anyway he drifted around and is now at Stevenage ? and for what a massive signing fee ? he may get back to something approaching championship or Prem level but he wasted about 5 years of his career just because hi s parents thought of money & fame
take Deli ali now there is a good grounded kid , played his heart out for MK Dons who like it or not do school and look after players , if he had gone to arsenal , Chelsea , Liverpool he would have faded into obscurity, what he did was actually stick it out Dons when the big clubs came calling and shock of shocks actually played in league 1 for a couple of seasons , got experience and then got his move , compare him to the lad Ojo at Liverpool who was also at Dons and thought of as the better prospect , well he is now kicking about and has played about 5 games in total, yes he is rich but he is wasting his life , and you could count in the hundreds the amount of good young players being wasted by this stupid greedy practise

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:29 - Apr 10 with 8029 viewsNorthernr

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:14 - Apr 10 by paulparker

the blame lies on the clubs but the parents are something else ,
One of Mrs P mates has a son at Watford who made the bench against West Brom the other night now this women is a single mum with about 3 or 4 other kids and all she can talk about is how her son is going to make her live in a mansion and give her a flash life that she should never work/claim again , how is that right ? parents should be encouraging their kids to join the right club be a better person and to enjoy the game, you know actually make appearances
I read the other day about a 16 year old Chelsea player buying his dad a 25k motor for FFS , if I was that lads Dad I would have taken the Car back and told him not to be a flash fcuker
funny I remember that Dean Parrets mum on here saying that our training facilities were poor etc that Spurs was a wonderful opportunity and that she was a spurs fan and he had to go , well Parret I think was on the verge of being in our matchday squad at 15 ? and would have made a few sub appearances he may have even played a bit the following year for , anyway he drifted around and is now at Stevenage ? and for what a massive signing fee ? he may get back to something approaching championship or Prem level but he wasted about 5 years of his career just because hi s parents thought of money & fame
take Deli ali now there is a good grounded kid , played his heart out for MK Dons who like it or not do school and look after players , if he had gone to arsenal , Chelsea , Liverpool he would have faded into obscurity, what he did was actually stick it out Dons when the big clubs came calling and shock of shocks actually played in league 1 for a couple of seasons , got experience and then got his move , compare him to the lad Ojo at Liverpool who was also at Dons and thought of as the better prospect , well he is now kicking about and has played about 5 games in total, yes he is rich but he is wasting his life , and you could count in the hundreds the amount of good young players being wasted by this stupid greedy practise


You're always better off playing IMO. There was a piece in the guardian last week about how much Swansea's academy has improved etc and they were talking up this 20yo lad McBurnie who they'd picked up from Bradford and had such high hopes for they'd given him four (4) whole substitute appearances in the Premier League this season. Obviously that's far better for the lad's development than playing regularly for Bradford at the top of League One in front of 20,000 people every week at a well run, successful lower divison club that plays good, attacking football.

makes me laugh when they talk about the Checkatrade Trophy B Team bolox being a vital opportunity for them to play "men's football". If we're so bothered about them playing men's football, why do we keep taking them out of it?

Parrett is at Wimbledon now I believe. When I watched him at Stevenage he looked really good at that level, their best player certainly, really had something about him. If he'd been playing proper first team football for us from 16/17 who knows where he might have gone? Instead he wasted five years in Spurs reserves, filling bench spots in UEFA Cup away matches and stuff. Real shame.

I remember the story about that Southampton loanee at Sheff Utd who killed a guy in a high speed smash on the M1 while texting somebody - he was driving some ridiculous sports car despite being a 19 y/o without a senior Southampton appearance on loan in League One. Without trying to gett the site sued, some of the excellent young boys in Chelsea's stockpile of players getting rich and going nowhere have kept the club's lawyers very busy with their own interpretation of The Highway Code and the Sexual Offences Ammendment Act.


Evil Les has it right - it should be about playing first team football and we've got to be the club where you have a realistic chance of doing. Then you just hope the parents and/or kid don't get blinded by the bling elsewhere.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:45 - Apr 10 with 8003 viewsbob566

what was the name of a young keeper we had around the time of sterling that Chelsea poached off us into their academy. Always wondered if he came to anything.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:03 - Apr 10 with 7968 viewspaulparker

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:29 - Apr 10 by Northernr

You're always better off playing IMO. There was a piece in the guardian last week about how much Swansea's academy has improved etc and they were talking up this 20yo lad McBurnie who they'd picked up from Bradford and had such high hopes for they'd given him four (4) whole substitute appearances in the Premier League this season. Obviously that's far better for the lad's development than playing regularly for Bradford at the top of League One in front of 20,000 people every week at a well run, successful lower divison club that plays good, attacking football.

makes me laugh when they talk about the Checkatrade Trophy B Team bolox being a vital opportunity for them to play "men's football". If we're so bothered about them playing men's football, why do we keep taking them out of it?

Parrett is at Wimbledon now I believe. When I watched him at Stevenage he looked really good at that level, their best player certainly, really had something about him. If he'd been playing proper first team football for us from 16/17 who knows where he might have gone? Instead he wasted five years in Spurs reserves, filling bench spots in UEFA Cup away matches and stuff. Real shame.

I remember the story about that Southampton loanee at Sheff Utd who killed a guy in a high speed smash on the M1 while texting somebody - he was driving some ridiculous sports car despite being a 19 y/o without a senior Southampton appearance on loan in League One. Without trying to gett the site sued, some of the excellent young boys in Chelsea's stockpile of players getting rich and going nowhere have kept the club's lawyers very busy with their own interpretation of The Highway Code and the Sexual Offences Ammendment Act.


Evil Les has it right - it should be about playing first team football and we've got to be the club where you have a realistic chance of doing. Then you just hope the parents and/or kid don't get blinded by the bling elsewhere.


a 20 year old player should have at least 80 games under his belt by now
look at Will Hughes he has played over 150 games and is still young enough to get a decent move , compare him to Goss at our place he is 21 but has played only 4 senior games but is probably a lot richer than Hughes how is that right ? the same with kevin stewart at Liverpool 24 but played only 30 games in his life , he only has about 7 /8 years left in the game
I watched the Chelsea vs Spurs under 18 fa semi the other night , the Chelsea team were something else they were I have to say in a different universe but will any of them ever make an appearance for the 1st team, Spurs lost 9-1 on agg or something silly but I bet you any money that the lads from the spurs team will be playing 1st team football a lot quicker
as for Chelsea I would be very concerned if I had a lad in the youth team, what life skills are they giving them that solanke and co can earn 50 k a week without doing anything
and that 17 year olds can drive Bentleys , cant these kids or parents not see that careers are ruined going there

And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles Brian Moore

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:32 - Apr 10 with 7923 viewsnadera78

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 10:45 - Apr 10 by bob566

what was the name of a young keeper we had around the time of sterling that Chelsea poached off us into their academy. Always wondered if he came to anything.


Liam O'Brien - left us to join Portsmouth. Knocked around the lower leagues, now back at Pompey. When he (& Parrett) left us we only had a Centre of Excellence, the Academy having been closed down by Gerry Francis, so you could understand promising lads leaving to go to PL clubs with Academy facilities, etc.

From memory we also lost Tafari Moore and Henry Wise to Arsenal (the latter now at Derby, apparently), as well as Sterling obviously. Probably a few others too over the years.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:50 - Apr 10 with 7889 viewsDorse

Putting aside the obviously distasteful pursuit of a fcuking 9 year old (!!) by these clubs, the fact that we've actually got a prospect like this on the books in the first place shows we've addressed on of our biggest problems over the last few years.

For so long, we've been at a disadvantage to our larger neighbours - we must be doing something right.

The game has gone mad. He's 9 years old!

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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 12:18 - Apr 10 with 7844 viewsBazzaInTheLoft

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:50 - Apr 10 by Dorse

Putting aside the obviously distasteful pursuit of a fcuking 9 year old (!!) by these clubs, the fact that we've actually got a prospect like this on the books in the first place shows we've addressed on of our biggest problems over the last few years.

For so long, we've been at a disadvantage to our larger neighbours - we must be doing something right.

The game has gone mad. He's 9 years old!


Fvck it, let's start him against Bristol for a laugh.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 13:19 - Apr 10 with 7767 viewsbob566

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:32 - Apr 10 by nadera78

Liam O'Brien - left us to join Portsmouth. Knocked around the lower leagues, now back at Pompey. When he (& Parrett) left us we only had a Centre of Excellence, the Academy having been closed down by Gerry Francis, so you could understand promising lads leaving to go to PL clubs with Academy facilities, etc.

From memory we also lost Tafari Moore and Henry Wise to Arsenal (the latter now at Derby, apparently), as well as Sterling obviously. Probably a few others too over the years.


that's the chap. Thanks.
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Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 14:10 - Apr 10 with 7714 viewssimmo

Big Clubs Interested in QPR 9 year old player. on 11:03 - Apr 10 by paulparker

a 20 year old player should have at least 80 games under his belt by now
look at Will Hughes he has played over 150 games and is still young enough to get a decent move , compare him to Goss at our place he is 21 but has played only 4 senior games but is probably a lot richer than Hughes how is that right ? the same with kevin stewart at Liverpool 24 but played only 30 games in his life , he only has about 7 /8 years left in the game
I watched the Chelsea vs Spurs under 18 fa semi the other night , the Chelsea team were something else they were I have to say in a different universe but will any of them ever make an appearance for the 1st team, Spurs lost 9-1 on agg or something silly but I bet you any money that the lads from the spurs team will be playing 1st team football a lot quicker
as for Chelsea I would be very concerned if I had a lad in the youth team, what life skills are they giving them that solanke and co can earn 50 k a week without doing anything
and that 17 year olds can drive Bentleys , cant these kids or parents not see that careers are ruined going there


Dele Alli a perfect example, the piece in the Guardian about him today as he is 21 tomorrow, hit the ground running at Spurs and not looked back, something that would have never been possible without the 80 odd games he played at MK or the decision by Spurs to loan him back for 6 months after buying him.

Players should have to have played a minimum 50 senior league games before a club in the premier league can offer for them, or something similar. This hoarding of talent by the likes of Chelscum especially, is shameful.

ask Beavis I get nothing Butthead

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