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Friday, 4th May 2018 13:35 by Clive Whittingham

The QPR rumour mill is turning at quite a pace, and manager Ian Holloway would be forgiven for feeling a sense of déjà vu as heads to Elland Road for Sunday’s season finale.

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It may be a meaningless game on the league table, but Ian Holloway should probably have telegraphed that a trip to Elland Road would be no quiet, routine end to the season.

He came here twice as QPR boss in his initial spell in charge. The first, in 2004, when he dragged himself out of a hospital bed to attend the match and appease the rage of board member Gianni Paladini who had heard his manager was thinking of capitalising on his stock being high following a promotion and blistering autumn by moving to Wolves – Rangers took the lead and then, infamously, lost 6-1. The following season, with Paladini now chairman outright and the relationship completely fractured, Holloway was being linked with Leicester but was on his last legs at QPR regardless. He delivered a big fat ‘fuck you’ by fielding a completely random starting 11 made up almost entirely of the weird and wonderful players Paladini had lumbered him with through his favoured agents. Barnes, Bignot, Shittu, Lowe, Taylor, Ainsworth (Nygaard), Kus (Langley), Lomas, Cook (Youssouf), Moore and Clarke unsurprisingly lost 2-0 and Holloway was gone immediately afterwards.

And now here we are again, setting sail for the capital of mental foreign ownership and extortionate ticket prices with our own board, by their own public admission, considering the position of Ollie second time around. A week ago, looking tired at the end of a long season and bereaved by the loss of his mother and mentor in a horrible fortnight, Holloway gave the impression he may be considering taking a step back of his own accord. One short week later and the jungle drums suggest he’s actually being ushered in that direction by his bosses.

The rapidly rotating team selections, often volatile post-match comments, and an away record which has been appalling throughout Holloway’s second spell and shows no sign of improvement, have caused misgivings among QPR’s owners who are looking for a more consistent approach and better development of the club’s playing assets. The name of Steve McClaren, highly regarded behind the scenes at Loftus Road for the job he did here as coach when That Tosser Redknapp was phoning it in, has already done the message board rounds despite his failures elsewhere.

The first thing to say is that now is exactly the right time to be voicing these concerns and making these considerations. A year ago almost to the day I sat in this chair and wrote about the real and present danger of sticking with Holloway through the summer only to sack him two months into the following season. Having decided to stick, one of the enormous positives of 2017/18 is that we have broken the ruinous cycle of starting seasons with one manager, budget and plan only to abandon all three midway through and head off in a completely different direction, further bloating the squad and shelling out yet more compensation to fired bosses as we go. A job was laid down for the manager, a budget was spent, there was no mid-season change, there was no six-in-six-out January, and the team, squad and club are all much healthier for it. Now is precisely the time to start that process for next season.

Whether replacing Holloway is the correct outcome of it, if indeed that is the direction we’re now heading, is debatable.

The concerns at board level are not without foundation, and are shared by many of the supporters. The team selections have not been as wild and random as they were 12 months ago, when the likes of Michael Petrasso, Sean Goss and Big Fat Ravel Morrison were lobbed in totally at random and completely out of position before being hauled off at half time in poor defeats. But “Ian Holloway makes six changes for this afternoon’s…” is heard far too often, and poor results after multiple changes have often interrupted positive forward momentum – most recently at Reading, who may well survive purely on the basis of those gifted three points, and at home to Preston.

The quotes, rambles and outbursts, too, have often been, kindly put, unhelpful. I wondered at the time whether his post-Brentford tirade – albeit having had a camera shoved in his face immediately after the match with adrenalin still pumping – may be a similar ‘start the clock on the borrowed time’ moment to the one Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink had when he lost 6-0 to Newcastle. Calling out Idrissa Sylla (frequently) and Player of the Year candidate Josh Scowen (post Hull) didn’t sit comfortably with me or many of you. The weird attempts to stir up bitterness with Brentford have been irritating because firstly it’s simply never going exist among the QPR supporters and secondly it looks rather stupid when they keep outplaying us. His ability to turn positivity after a win into negativity with promises of sweeping changes for the next match grates, particularly as it rarely works and often gives the impression of a man over-thinking and over-complicating needlessly. He often looks and sounds like somebody trying to show what a brilliant, deep-thinking, tactical manager he is rather than just relaxing and letting results do the talking.

And most importantly of all, the away results show precious few signs of improvement. Six wins, eight draws and 23 defeats on the road since returning – two of those wins at a dire Birmingham side – is nowhere near good enough and bar one glorious week in March when we suddenly outplayed Villa and Fulham there’s no sign that he really knows how to cure it. Rangers have since lost at Reading, Hull and Brentford again scoring just once. A home record of 12-5-6 this season is better than Derby currently have sitting sixth, but only Birmingham and Bolton have a worse set of away results. A loss at Pride Park before Christmas, when we bizarrely started with David Wheeler up front alone, sticks out for the comment made by one club official in the hotel afterwards that Holloway “feels like he’s tried everything so may as well give this a go” – a kid of four Championship appearances, fresh from Exeter City, out of position alone up front, away at Derby against Curtis Davies? Come on.

But QPR have been burned before coveting supposedly greener grass elsewhere. Only last week co-chairman Tony Fernandes was talking to the QPR Podcast about his ongoing regret at the decision to sack Neil Warnock and replace him with Mark Hughes in January 2012. Changing managers when the one you have is doing badly is awkward, changing them when the one you have is doing what you asked him to do is very risky, doing it when you have QPR’s record of appointing bosses is borderline suicidal.

And Holloway has done what was asked of him this season, and more. The remit was to further hack into the wage bill, offload more of the big-earning senior players, blood some of the talented youngsters in the first team, and not get relegated doing it. He’s achieved that with bells on. Rangers have had five players aged 20 or under score goals for them this season, more than anybody else in the division. Darnell Furlong, Paul Smyth, Ebere Eze and Ryan Manning have all become first team regulars under Holloway and Bright Osayi-Samuel and Ilias Chair don’t look far behind with Osman Kakay and Aramide Oteh also in the wings. They have, particularly in the final weeks of the season, looked very good doing it as well, with five wins and two draws from the final 11 games, great performances at Villa and Fulham, two three-goal hauls and four goals scored on two other occasions. Admittedly Rangers did have an unusually favourable run of home fixtures in the second half of the season – Norwich, Sheff Wed and Birmingham particularly poor – but still.

This idea that somebody else is required to come in and develop the players doesn’t really ring true either. Massimo Luongo couldn’t buy a goal in his first two seasons at the club, and now scores regularly and has been voted Player of the Year. Luke Freeman was a bit part player at Bristol City, and has been superb for us since he arrived. Ebere Eze has been well managed, with a loan move to Wycombe to “knock a few edges off” aiding his seamless transition to first team player at Loftus Road. Paul Smyth has gone from Linfield to Championship regular. Darnell Furlong is flying at both full back and centre half. Jack Robinson has gone from permanently absent left back to coveted centre half. Grant Hall stepped into midfield with great aplomb prior to his injury. Matt Smith now compared to the Matt Smith we signed… There has been notable, undeniable, player development and improvement under Holloway.

Even if that wasn’t the case, you must also take into consideration the number of influential, senior professionals leaving Rangers this summer. Nedum Onuoha is front and centre among those as the captain they all look up to, but James Perch and Jamie Mackie are big dressing room figures as well. You want to lose all of that experience and influence, and potentially Jack Robinson as well, and the manager and his coaching staff at the same time? It’s a lot of upheaval and uncertainty for a young squad. While it’s wonderful that we beat Birmingham last week with an average age of little over 23, that game was slipping out of our grasp until Onuoha came off the bench.

Holloway was speaking as far back as last summer about the opportunity those contracts expiring offered him and Gary Penrice to replenish the squad with more Josh Scowen-type free transfers. While Penrice is set to stay as head of recruitment, would a new manager/head coach want his own raft of signings? In the current climate there aren’t many willing to allow their reputation to be staked on a bunch of kids learning their trade. Holloway has embraced that, and the budget cuts, and the challenges.

It feels to me like he’s shown enough and earned the right to try and meet the new aims and expectations of next season. But it seems increasingly like the board don’t agree, and if that is the case then better to twist now than start next season with somebody they’re not sure about and end up making one of those mid-season changes again.

You didn’t really think we were just going to have a quiet, uneventful end to the season did you?

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Wegerle and Wilkins there. Happier times. Anyway, it’s that time of the year again where we bid our thanks to the collection of weirdos and loaners who’ve helped keep LFW going for 12 long, gruelling, strength sapping, confidence draining years. We’ll be back next year, we can’t afford not to be tell the truth, but there will be a summer hiatus through most of June while I sit in the garden and enjoy not having to think about how I’m going to start this week’s match preview.

Thank you to everybody who has contributed articles this year – particularly Lee McAlpine who is an absolute Godsend as somebody who not only goes to all the northern QPR away games but is also happy to write about them for us when I’m away with the day job. Lewis Jones, Colin Speller, Andy Hillman, Simon Dorset, Ram Chandra, Jordan Foster, Ron Norris, Dave Thomas and Charlie Skinner have all contributed pieces this year and I can’t thank them enough for that. We love guest submissions, and we pay for your ticket if you can do us match reports for games we don’t go to, so please get in touch if you want to write regularly, occasionally, or just have something to get off your chest loftforwords@yahoo.co.uk, @loftforwords on the Twitter, or just come and find me in the Crown – always at the same table, even when the rugby twats try and take it from us.

Thank you, as ever, to the group who travel around with me. Overworked HR officer Jasmine Sandalli, official photographer (not a salaried position) Neil Dejyothin, Andy Hillman who provides the Crown regulars with the live boxing and takes my phone away from me when I’m about to Tweet something I really shouldn’t, joke writer Alan Simpson (so blame him), Tracey and her miracle liver, LFW resident counsel (not a salaried position) Harriet, Peckham’s finest Small, Owain who once managed to take a full Jim Beam and coke with ice in a glass into Loftus Road while I had a deodorant confiscated out the bottom of my sports bag, Bill for the accountant recommendation, the Ferry’s for making us all feel relatively unsuccessful and unattractive and Julian for keeping us reasonably sober by spilling all of our drinks. We’ll always have Burton, even if we actually no longer have Burton.

Respect to Gary, Allen, Murph, Glenn, Dave, Dawn and Seann who, through no fault or choice of their own, have to sit next to me at matches. I am trying. Very trying. Thank you to Gerry, Catherine and Hurley at the Crown and Sceptre for their hospitality/taking all our money – good luck in your finals mate. And thanks to all of you who click on the site, read the articles, post comments, use the message board – that’s the lifeblood. If you read without getting involved, get involved - comment, use the message board, it keeps the site going.

Enjoy all your summers, God knows we need it.


Team News: With everything that’s going on, and nothing riding on the game, it would be a brave man to try and predict QPR’s starting 11 for this one. We know that Massimo Luongo has taken his annual leave early prior to heading off to the World Cup with Australia, and that David Wheeler is a long term absentee. But other than that, who knows? Joe Lumley is likely to be given another go in goal and if Holloway sticks with his policy from last week of only starting players who are going to be here next season then Jamie Mackie, Nedum Onuoha, James Perch and Jack Robinson are likely to also be benched or left out.

There’s a real end of season feeling to Leeds at the moment, with manager Paul Heckingbottom already seemingly heading towards the exit door just three months after arriving from Barnsley and a host of first team players not fit to play. Vurnon Anita (gluten intolerance), Conor Shaughnessy (gut rot) and Stuart Dallas…

…. are all definitely out. Lovely Luke Ayling is back in training along with Strictly’s Anton De Bock but I’m not sure either can be arsed for this one. Likewise Tyler Roberts who’s had a bad reaction to a dodgy clam.

Elsewhere: Final day of the season then, mercifully, which means we all have to kick off at the same time. That, of course, cannot possibly ever be Saturday at 15.00 so the whole division is upping sticks and moving to the anti-social, inaccessible, bleary-eyed nonsense of Sunday morning at 12.30 in order for our Sky Overlords to select as many games as they like. In return, they’ve picked one. ONE. The Eighth Annual Neil Warnock Farewell Tour reaching its inevitable promotion crescendo with a mauling of Reading. Wankers.

Plenty at stake elsewhere though, not least at the bottom where four teams are fighting to avoid the two remaining relegation spots alongside Sunderland who finish at home to champions Sporting Wolverhampton. Bolton, second bottom on 40 points and -36 goal difference, need a win at home to Nottingham Trees. Nigel Clough’s Burton Albion, third bottom on 41 and -42, could survive with a draw at Preston Knob End if Bolton don’t win and Barnsley lose at Derby Sheep. The Tykes are fourth bottom on 41 and -21 but Derby still need a point to be sure of the final play-off spot ahead of Preston. If they all win, then that spells trouble for Birmingham who host Tarquin and Rupert – still holding out hopes of overhauling Cardiff in second – and/or Reading.

The Millwall Scholars, hosting Big Racist John and the Boys, could still make the play-offs if Preston and Derby lose, and they win with a nine goal swing. That’s your lot though so Bristol City v Sheffield Red Stripes, Ipswich Blue Sox v Middlesbrough and Sheffield Owls v Borussia Norwich are playing purely for the love of the game, bless em. Brentford will almost certainly be the best team Allam Tigers have played all season.

It’s over. It’s finally over. You wait all your life for this moment and then when it comes, you don’t know what to say.

Referee: It’s Darren England for this one, a Premier League lino who is rapidly ascending through the main refereeing ranks. He was last in charge of us when we lost to Aston Villa before Christmas, awarding a penalty to Villa for a Jack Robinson handball in first half stoppage time. Details here.


Leeds: It’s been a dire end to the season for Leeds who won only three times in all competitions since December 30 – a run that includes an FA Cup exit to League Two Newport County. Manager Paul Heckingbottom has only been in charge since February 6 but is already on his last legs with a record of three wins, four draws and eight defeats so far. The wins have all come at Elland Road – 2-1 against Barnsley and Bolton and 1-0 against Brentford – but they come into this one on a run of one win and four defeats from the last six matches. They’ve only kept one clean sheet in 16 matches. They’re 9-6-7 overall at home in the league this season.

QPR: The win against Birmingham in the final home game of the season last week continued a pattern that has dogged QPR all season – excellent home form held back by lousy away results. In Shepherd’s Bush they’ve won four of the last five and six of the last eight. On the road it’s just three wins all season and one in the last eight. Ian Holloway’s side have lost three in a row on their travels prior to this one, conceding seven and scoring only once. Only Bolton and Birmingham have a worse away record than Rangers this season.

Prediction: Barring a miracle, Elliott42 is going to be the winner of this year’s Prediction League sponsored by the Art of Football. You can view their QPR Collection by clicking this link. Bowing out as reigning champion, Southend_Rsss tells us…

“Well here we go then for the last game of the season. Nice to be writing the final piece after getting the outcome spot on against Birmingham and ending on a bit of a high. At the time of writing it looks like Elliott42 will be taking the title for this season, so well played there.

“Leeds away on the final day is as much of a dead rubber as you’re ever gonna get for both sides. I guess if we field youngsters and players who aren’t normally in the fold we may stand a better chance of getting the points as they could be more hungrier and eager to prove themselves. Could really be any outcome in all honesty. It seems a lot of people who have already made predictions agree too. I’ll go for a score draw for this and sit on the fence.

“Enjoy your summer... You Rss”

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Nov77 added 14:02 - May 4
Lee hoos has said that the club budgeted for finishing tenth this season, why? Holloway has never achieved that position in all his time at the club, he also was one defeat away from getting us relegated (again) last season.

Are the club ambitious? Do they have their sights on at least the top half of the championship? History tells us that is not going to happen under Holloway.

TheChef added 14:14 - May 4
Congratulations Clive on making it to your last match preview of the season, while retaining a sliver of sanity. Great work as ever.

Now put your feet up and marinade yourself in Peroni.

YorkRanger added 14:45 - May 4
Clive, hats off to you again for the splendid work you do running Loft For Words and for another season under the belt. All the best for the Summer recess...

cheeseydane added 14:45 - May 4
Thanks for another year Clive. Legend.

wotcangowrong added 15:06 - May 4
I agree Clive – I have my doubts about Holloway but he's done enough to earn another season. Have we not had enough of constant upheaval for the time being?

terryb added 15:10 - May 4
I've used my tombola to see which eleven will be selected for this match.

Tilt to start AND score!

Thanks for the previews (and much more) Clive. I look forward to seeing if this years opponents retain their names for next season or if Norwich lose their Borussia tag. At least we still be playing against The Champions of Europe!

LeedsR added 16:00 - May 4
Thanks Clive, to you and your team for the fantastic writing from previews to the match reports and everything in between. Enjoy the break, you’ve more than earned it!

I hope that if Ollie is to go, it’s of his own volition and not because he’s being pushed. Whilst he does appear emotionally tired, and with the recent tragic losses, it is completely understandable and football becomes irrelevant in comparison. That said I do think that he has at least earned the right to be able to choose whether or not he carries on. I hope for him that the right choice is made and it’s all done sensitively.

QPRski added 16:11 - May 4
Thanks for another season of previews and reports. They are all a “must read” for me and are very much appreciated.

It is a great pity that after a season that has generally exceeded our initial expectations, that we have this “dilemma”. It is typical QPR.

derbyhoop added 16:31 - May 4
Thank you Clive for all the hard work, the moans and grumbles (mostly justified), the wit, humour and occasional swearing, the long trips to away games at the other end of the country - on a school night, the infinite patience with team and management when they don't deliver. And for keeping us all informed as we lap up every morsel of news about our beloved and frustrating club.

SimonJames added 17:42 - May 4
Clive, thanks for another entertaining season writing about a less entertaining season on the pitch.

Myke added 18:23 - May 4
The worrying thing RE Holloway's team selection is that he doesn't learn from previous mistakes. He repeated the Wheeler fiasco with Eze just a few weeks ago. I don't want Holloway replaced - the benefits of a settled managers is axiomatic - but he needs to learn from previous mistakes, cut out the post-match rants, cut out the random team selections, cut out tactics (long ball to Smith and formations (wing backs) that clearly don't work. Keep doing the good stuff, nurturing youth, improving players, motivating the whole squad etc and he'll be fine.
Tanks a million for another excellent season Clive - enjoy the summer

MackemR added 18:38 - May 4
Thanks Clive for another season of brilliant posts. I think you have nailed it once again. We need stability and continuity and despite that awful hat I think Holloway has done enough to stay. And perhaps we may just be beginning to see the light after the past few years of excess and non investment.

loneranger1 added 18:39 - May 4
Thanks for eveything this year Clive - don't know how you do it all on top of the day job - but am very grateful that you do! Previews and match reports are essential reading for me for every game but especially the ones I can't get to and they always bring it alive. Enjoy a well-earned break over the summer.

E15Hoop added 18:52 - May 4
Clive: If you look back to what I posted after Saturday's Brum game, you can probably guess how foolish and disenchanted I'm currently feeling. I love Ollie to pieces, so I'm admittedly not totally unbiased, but that love has developed organically from often half-hour long 1-1 conversations since I first met him in 2004 where he's engaged with me as an equal, and not patronised me or made me feel like I was getting in his way.

This is high class behaviour which I know is not just reserved for me, but is typical of his warm and generous nature. More importantly in this context, I think it displays an often overlooked tactical cuteness - an innate understanding of what QPR is all about that our heavy-footed co-Chairman clearly still lacks (despite all protestations to the contrary). When you add to that how we've visibly moved forwards on the pitch this season as you've just described impeccably, and also how players such as Matt Smith and Massimo Luongo have directly attributed their success to specific things that Ollie and Birch have picked up on, I am incandescent with rage that the Board could even consider a change now. WHAT ARE THEY THINKING??!!

Ollie lives and breathes QPR as we all know, but over and above that, everyone seems to forget that he got Blackpool into the Prem with the smallest playing budget on record, and that they finished 5th top scorers in the Prem itself, beating Man Utd, if I remember correctly.

Yes, he's clearly bi-polar, and our playing record reflects that as you correctly say. However, as I said last week, he's an intrinsic part of the Class of '93 that forms a solid chunk of the framework of this club (Sir Les, Sinton, Penrice, Impey) and which has experienced an unheralded QPR side become consistently successful at the highest level. Let's also not forget that he is now the longest-serving QPR manager still alive and third longest of all time - who else therefore could possibly be out there that (a.) understands the culture of the club and what makes it unique (b.) loves the club with a passion that goes beyond any kind of logical reason, given how he was treated 15 years ago and (c.) understands how to maximise the limited pool of talent at his disposal, all at probably somewhat less than he could get elsewhere, including staying at Sky?

It strikes me that Uncle Tony's got another case of "Icarus Complex". Time to watch us crash and burn...again...

Burnleyhoop added 18:54 - May 4
Great effort again Clive, this site is a major part of the QPR experience so long may it and you continue.

For me, Olly stays and is given the opportunity to see how his young charges develop and grow. He has steered the club through a very difficult period of transition. To see another manager take credit for any success that they may achieve would be wholly unfair. He is Rangers through and through and absolutely deserves at least another year.

Dorse added 20:10 - May 4
Not sure how you do it Clive but I'm glad you do. Here comes the summer...

simonqpr added 20:21 - May 4
Thanks Clive another great report, I sit about 5 rows behind you and I most say you have been quite reserved this season compared to normal 😉 have a great summer and keep up the great work. U R’s

loftus77 added 21:14 - May 4
Yes thanks very much, Clive, as always. Excellent coverage of a difficult season. Much appreciated.

extratimeR added 00:39 - May 5
Thanks Clive!

Another great season of quality and balanced reporting with some great humour,( God knows we need it following the Rsss.

Consensus among us lot pre-season was mid-table and off-load the big earners, introducing successfully so many youngsters has been the major achievement of the season, which Holloway, Ramsey and Les deserve much credit.

I think if we can balance the youngsters with a few old heads, (remember Webb and Mclintock etc) that we should give Holloway another season, the one thing I have learnt at this club is to frequent managerial changes wrecks the squad and destroys any chance of successfully introducing youngsters from the academy.

Well done this season Clive!

timcocking added 02:56 - May 5
That is a completely fair and 100% accurate assessment of the situation.

For my money it absolutely should be Ollie still in charge for next season, although those top paragraphs make it a tempting decision for the board to gamble. I think that could be disastrous with this squad.

enfieldargh added 09:04 - May 5
Thanks Clive for the reports and previews which are always vibrant, funny, to the point and extremely well written.

I really hope Olly stays and that the back room staff remain the same. If he goes due to ill health then that is understandable and that Steve Maclaren slots in with as few changes to the back room as possible.

Other than that Gerry I think is free, get him in to work with the defence, olly to recharge his batteries and that we find a steady head at the back(Webb & Mclintock mentioned)

Hopefully Leeds out in a lack lustre end of season performance and that our young guns play as if their lives depend on it and not the usual 4-0 drubbing.

Looking forward to your cameo close season editorials and tomorrows match report.

Did you intend to put a full stop between Reading & wan£ers?

francisbowles added 10:01 - May 5
Don't wish to be too repetitive so:_




Have a good summer, everyone.

TacticalR added 14:04 - May 5
Thanks for your preview.

I think fans' attitude to Holloway is largely determined by whether they think the plight of the club is due to objective circumstances or to Holloway's management.

I agree with the point E15Hoop makes about Holloway being part of a team that have known each other since their playing days and that team should not be disrupted without a great deal of consideration. My fear is that the board's decisions seem to come out of the blue and appear to arise from a need to be seen to be doing something rather than any great plan for the future.

Phil_i_P_Daddy added 21:10 - May 5
Unless somebody of McClaren’s experience and calibre is willing to come in and work with the squad we’re left with after the summer; retain the majority of the backroom staff and operate within the board’s financial and recruitment parameters, I’d keep Olly in place and strongly encourage him to bring in an effective no.2.
Olly’s achieved what was required this season, albeit in a haphazard fashion, and we have to accept that chasing a viable promotion is a few seasons away yet.

jonno added 08:33 - May 6
Agree that Ollie has achieved what he was asked to do, and probably more, and therefore should be given the opportunity to carry on if he wants to do so. Yes, some of his decisions are questionable, as somebody else stated above he repeated the Wheeler mistake with Eze up front on his own as well, but I think you'll find most fans at most Clubs don't agree with a lot of their managers decisions either! I wouldn't mind McLaren coming in to the Club, he is a very good coach, but only as an addition to Ollie and not in place of him. We need to continue with the stability (of sorts at least) that has been achieved for the foreseeable future and changing the manager - with all the associated other upheavals that would bring - would be counter productive to that. Finally, many thanks to Clive et al for all your work throughout the season, you provide an essential service for us ex-pat Rs fans, even though we do now have the chance to watch most of the games live via the official site (when it is working) supporting the Club from afar would not be the same without you guys, so thanks again and have a good summer break.

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