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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report 00:51 - May 2 with 2131 viewsNorthernr

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 07:06 - May 2 with 2009 viewsdaveB

quality report Clive, thanks for that
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 07:20 - May 2 with 1996 viewsBlue_Castello

Excellent 10/10 Mr Whittingham - good to hear Tone is still fully committed and not too disheartened by the failure of his managers and the inane drivel he must receive daily on twitter.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 07:48 - May 2 with 1937 viewsizlingtonhoop

"the entire Nike team that used to work on the Arsenal kits has now been switched to QPR"

Ah, so, the physio team wearing Arsenal kits has just been to help us get used to it.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 08:32 - May 2 with 1873 viewsBrianMcCarthy

Thanks Clive. Very thorough report. Greatly appreciated.
[Post edited 2 May 2014 8:50]

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 08:36 - May 2 with 1863 viewsswisscottage

As always Clive a fantastic report. Thank you.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 08:55 - May 2 with 1825 viewsMytch_QPR

Thanks as always, Clive - although I was slightly alarmed (at first) when I read: 'TF said the club now has a list of players in every position, in excess of 40, who could be signed if the club is in the Championship or the Premier League, rather than a manager simply coming forward with one specific target after another'... I had to read that a couple of times before I realised it was referring to the quantity of players and not their age!

Also (and I'm probably being naïve here), but how does it take an entire team of designers to come up with a kit design which is essentially blue and white hoops with white shorts and socks? - it's all gone mad.

It's nice to know that TF has such a laid back approach to his frivolous spending(!!!)

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 09:40 - May 2 with 1746 viewsJamie

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 08:55 - May 2 by Mytch_QPR

Thanks as always, Clive - although I was slightly alarmed (at first) when I read: 'TF said the club now has a list of players in every position, in excess of 40, who could be signed if the club is in the Championship or the Premier League, rather than a manager simply coming forward with one specific target after another'... I had to read that a couple of times before I realised it was referring to the quantity of players and not their age!

Also (and I'm probably being naïve here), but how does it take an entire team of designers to come up with a kit design which is essentially blue and white hoops with white shorts and socks? - it's all gone mad.

It's nice to know that TF has such a laid back approach to his frivolous spending(!!!)


The same way it took a team to create a plain red shirt with white sleeves for Arsenal.

'First Impression Specialist' contacts club. 'Target Designation Team' consult with club. 'Junior Creative Artist' designs kit. Passes design to 'Junior Design Consultant', who passes design to 'Creative Design Consultant', who passes design to 'Design Analyst' who passes design to 'Satisfaction Acquisition Specialist' to send to club.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 09:53 - May 2 with 1723 viewslondonscottish

Thanks Clive.

The comments on financials make me (slightly) less nervous about the 12th....

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 10:03 - May 2 with 1707 viewsdaveB

wonder who the football people are they kept referring to, am guessing thats the youth team coaches and scouts but good to see they are starting to take that side seriously
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 10:15 - May 2 with 1684 viewsMytch_QPR

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 09:40 - May 2 by Jamie

The same way it took a team to create a plain red shirt with white sleeves for Arsenal.

'First Impression Specialist' contacts club. 'Target Designation Team' consult with club. 'Junior Creative Artist' designs kit. Passes design to 'Junior Design Consultant', who passes design to 'Creative Design Consultant', who passes design to 'Design Analyst' who passes design to 'Satisfaction Acquisition Specialist' to send to club.


Hmmm...
Sounds about right, although I suspect that at some stage a 'Vision Actualisation Group' may have been involved. It's so meticulous... perhaps old Sparky is involved (in which case we'll probably end up with stripes rather than hoops (wrong colour) - one short sleeve, one long)...

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 11:12 - May 2 with 1596 viewsizlingtonhoop

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 10:15 - May 2 by Mytch_QPR

Hmmm...
Sounds about right, although I suspect that at some stage a 'Vision Actualisation Group' may have been involved. It's so meticulous... perhaps old Sparky is involved (in which case we'll probably end up with stripes rather than hoops (wrong colour) - one short sleeve, one long)...


Or something that's not quite a QPR shirt, re this:

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 11:31 - May 2 with 1555 viewsFDC

Thanks for digesting and reporting the meeting so quickly Clive.

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 13:48 - May 2 with 1353 viewsstansleftfoot

I have actually better understanding of the forum by reading the summary from North than i did by looking at the rather sheepish faces of Fernandes, Donnelly and Beard answering the mumblings of the loyal QPR fans.
Great to hear Rodney Marsh make the point that owners and boards presume Managers actually know what they are doing.
One lesson learnt for QPR's board seems to have been that Managers when faced with long term ambitions don't know what their doing, they just want to buy another player.
For me that was exciting news, the process in action get £300K for Skapetis and keep Petrasso.....we might yet see some young players found and developed by QPR.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:26 - May 2 with 1309 viewsenfieldargh

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 13:48 - May 2 by stansleftfoot

I have actually better understanding of the forum by reading the summary from North than i did by looking at the rather sheepish faces of Fernandes, Donnelly and Beard answering the mumblings of the loyal QPR fans.
Great to hear Rodney Marsh make the point that owners and boards presume Managers actually know what they are doing.
One lesson learnt for QPR's board seems to have been that Managers when faced with long term ambitions don't know what their doing, they just want to buy another player.
For me that was exciting news, the process in action get £300K for Skapetis and keep Petrasso.....we might yet see some young players found and developed by QPR.


are you saying we got 300k for petrase?

I thought he just left as was not retained....or am I being tik?

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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:35 - May 2 with 1303 viewsstansleftfoot

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:26 - May 2 by enfieldargh

are you saying we got 300k for petrase?

I thought he just left as was not retained....or am I being tik?


So that bugle of truth and accuracy says, The Daily Mail,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2617309/Peter-Skapetis-complet

I was astonished as you....Good News!
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:37 - May 2 with 1301 viewsstansleftfoot

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:35 - May 2 by stansleftfoot

So that bugle of truth and accuracy says, The Daily Mail,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2617309/Peter-Skapetis-complet

I was astonished as you....Good News!


We've kept Petrasso and flogged Skapetis....
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:39 - May 2 with 1297 viewsNorthernr

They didn't get anything for Skapetis, he just wasn't retained.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:44 - May 2 with 1289 viewsstansleftfoot

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:39 - May 2 by Northernr

They didn't get anything for Skapetis, he just wasn't retained.


Are you saying we cannot trust the professionalism of The Daily Mail, North?
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:49 - May 2 with 1282 viewsNorthernr

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:44 - May 2 by stansleftfoot

Are you saying we cannot trust the professionalism of The Daily Mail, North?


I'm saying that the Daily Mail sport desk make it up as they go along, particularly for online and especially if it's a club that isn't Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or Spurs.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:59 - May 2 with 1260 viewsstansleftfoot

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 14:49 - May 2 by Northernr

I'm saying that the Daily Mail sport desk make it up as they go along, particularly for online and especially if it's a club that isn't Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal or Spurs.


It did surprise me! So gone but no fee......Do you think this was the work of the Technical Committee, did Harry even know this Aussie was on our books.
The Forum seemed to clear up the signings of; Donaldson and the Brazilian who I seemed to have forgotten the name of....Dilatorre?
Would it be fair to say that TF, PB have hidden the cheque book from Harry and dipped into it occassionally to snap up what someone, somewhere was a player for the future?
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 15:35 - May 2 with 1212 viewshoof_hearted

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 07:48 - May 2 by izlingtonhoop

"the entire Nike team that used to work on the Arsenal kits has now been switched to QPR"

Ah, so, the physio team wearing Arsenal kits has just been to help us get used to it.


So Harry will need special training to do up the zip on his Arsene style duvet coat.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 17:35 - May 2 with 1083 viewshoof_hearted

"TF says the QPR shareholders would own the ground. QPR would not be a tenant in the ground."

Contradictory and worrying. The mystery major shareholder having control of the ground effectively. We want the club to own the ground, not the shareholders.
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 23:19 - May 2 with 877 viewsbaz_qpr

Not sure that is a surprise there will be a holding company that owns the club and the ground in separate companies, from a business perspective that makes sense.

Who is the mystery shareholder you talk about. All the shareholders are named in the accounts. Both the mittals and Fernandez with the other 2 Malaysians hold their shares in companies both companies have financed the club in ratio to their 1/3 2/3 split. The 3rd Malaysian shareholder is the richest family of the three. Nothing a quick look in the accounts and a search on Forbes does not reveal.

The money return is not in the new ground it's in all the housing that makes up the proposed development .
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Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 01:04 - May 3 with 822 viewsBrightonhoop

Fernandes provides reassurance, talks of writing off debt - fans forum report on 17:35 - May 2 by hoof_hearted

"TF says the QPR shareholders would own the ground. QPR would not be a tenant in the ground."

Contradictory and worrying. The mystery major shareholder having control of the ground effectively. We want the club to own the ground, not the shareholders.


That's what I thought straight away. There has to be a QPR Holdings and IT has to own the Ground. Keeping ownership of a new ground amongst shareholders does not bode well, and completely contradicts 'writing off debt.'

For the future of the Club QPR Holdings has to own the ground as with LR.
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