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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps 10:59 - Sep 20 with 3369 viewsswancity

And with some of our best and most influential players having been sold recently for big bucks including Ashley Williams and Andrew Ayew we don't have a strong enough squad

The manager is now getting a lot of undeserved stick. His hands are tied. He is operating a cautious playing style, typically Italian, if you like, which is based on defensive solidity in order to get results and to pick up points. Without doubt our target this season is 17th. So far we have managed that.

Guidolin has a track record of getting the best from his players as he did so well when he came here. It's early days and there is too much despondency. Far too much. I just feel that with our strongest team we have enough to finish outside the bottom five or six and that will be a success whether some people like it or not.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:01 - Sep 20 with 2888 viewsperchrockjack

But you can make a nourishing soup with some lentils and other pulses

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:03 - Sep 20 with 2878 viewsPegojack

I guess we'll know better after ten games. Nobody expects much if anything from the next three, but if we don't pick up points against Watford and Stoke at the end of October, it will be panic stations.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:07 - Sep 20 with 2866 viewsDewi1jack

Still think we'll finish at least 16th.


But if we don't then at least we won't have a bubble trip to Legoland next year either


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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:09 - Sep 20 with 2851 viewsswancity

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:03 - Sep 20 by Pegojack

I guess we'll know better after ten games. Nobody expects much if anything from the next three, but if we don't pick up points against Watford and Stoke at the end of October, it will be panic stations.


Agreed. I've heard fans say we have to get points against Liverpool and Mancity. Why? No we don't.

As always our main and biggest battles are against the likes of Burnley Stoke Watford Hull Middlesbrough West Brom. The old sheep mentality is raising its ugly head again and that spells problems. Cool heads are needed. Not doom , gloom and panic.

Yes perch. Got to get your folates lol

Only an idiot would eat a turkey curry on Christmas day

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:09 - Sep 20 with 2850 viewswaynekerr55

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:01 - Sep 20 by perchrockjack

But you can make a nourishing soup with some lentils and other pulses


Such as chick PEAS?

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:13 - Sep 20 with 2842 viewsJackFish

I don't buy this talk that we're playing defensively. That wouldn't be such a bad thing if we did it properly - Sousa showed how to be successful with a defensive style, and Rodgers and Laudrup employed a very effective defensive gameplan at times (thinking of Man City home/Everton away). But we couldn't have had much complaint if we'd conceded fifteen goals in the last three games. We're not defensive, we're just crap.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:14 - Sep 20 with 2838 viewsmonmouth

Can you make a pile of shit out of a pigs ear though?

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:15 - Sep 20 with 2831 viewswaynekerr55

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:14 - Sep 20 by monmouth

Can you make a pile of shit out of a pigs ear though?


If you put your mind to it, anything is possible...

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:19 - Sep 20 with 2816 viewsFearOfAJackPlanet

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:14 - Sep 20 by monmouth

Can you make a pile of shit out of a pigs ear though?


Eat it - let nature take its course, voila: shit.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:37 - Sep 20 with 2777 viewsJoe_bradshaw

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:19 - Sep 20 by FearOfAJackPlanet

Eat it - let nature take its course, voila: shit.
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Very true. My dogs manage it very well.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 12:05 - Sep 20 with 2721 viewsunion_jack

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:09 - Sep 20 by swancity

Agreed. I've heard fans say we have to get points against Liverpool and Mancity. Why? No we don't.

As always our main and biggest battles are against the likes of Burnley Stoke Watford Hull Middlesbrough West Brom. The old sheep mentality is raising its ugly head again and that spells problems. Cool heads are needed. Not doom , gloom and panic.

Yes perch. Got to get your folates lol


I think you'll find that if we don't take points out if the less expected games, we won't stay up.

Of course, we must take points from our own ;league' but not enough on their own.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 13:43 - Sep 20 with 2612 viewsperchrockjack

Actually, pigs ears are a doggie treat. HONEST

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 16:41 - Sep 20 with 2456 viewsFatherJack

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 11:13 - Sep 20 by JackFish

I don't buy this talk that we're playing defensively. That wouldn't be such a bad thing if we did it properly - Sousa showed how to be successful with a defensive style, and Rodgers and Laudrup employed a very effective defensive gameplan at times (thinking of Man City home/Everton away). But we couldn't have had much complaint if we'd conceded fifteen goals in the last three games. We're not defensive, we're just crap.


Watching the game Sunday, it was clear that barely a single player was aware of where the rest of their team mates were. I lost count of the number of times a player had a decision to make and inevitably took the wrong option. Several times a clear through pass was on to move forward and attack, only for them to knock it 3 feet sideways or backwards, totally oblivious to anything outside their own little 10 foot wide circle of the pitch.

And the endless bloody dithering... on the edge of the opponent's box, on the halfway line, on the wing trying to decide if we should cross, every time we have a throw in (90% of which we just throw to the opposition anyway - seriously, have you seen any team concede possession from throw ins as often as we do?) First thing must surely be to just get some urgency about our play and coach some awareness and speed in decision making so we stop looking so pedestrian.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:09 - Sep 20 with 2402 viewsA_Fans_Dad

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 16:41 - Sep 20 by FatherJack

Watching the game Sunday, it was clear that barely a single player was aware of where the rest of their team mates were. I lost count of the number of times a player had a decision to make and inevitably took the wrong option. Several times a clear through pass was on to move forward and attack, only for them to knock it 3 feet sideways or backwards, totally oblivious to anything outside their own little 10 foot wide circle of the pitch.

And the endless bloody dithering... on the edge of the opponent's box, on the halfway line, on the wing trying to decide if we should cross, every time we have a throw in (90% of which we just throw to the opposition anyway - seriously, have you seen any team concede possession from throw ins as often as we do?) First thing must surely be to just get some urgency about our play and coach some awareness and speed in decision making so we stop looking so pedestrian.
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I totally agree, except for the last part. You shouldn't have to coach in "awareness", they have been playing together long enough to know a Swans shirt from a Soton one.
Although on the PC it wasn't quite so easy at times, especially if you are a bit colour blind.
Perhaps they should all be tested for colour blindness?

I think it is more a confidence issue and the Swans aren't the only Prem team suffering from it at the moment.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:20 - Sep 20 with 2370 viewsphact0rri

You can't make a silk purse out of most things. Silk is pretty much your only choice init?

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:21 - Sep 20 with 2365 viewsImAlrightJack

More like trying to make a silk purse out of a pile of $hit.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:25 - Sep 20 with 2353 viewsdeanscfc

I can only laugh at those who think the mess we are in is down to the manager. Change of manager won't make a bit of difference at the moment. The playing squad is not good enoygh, simple as that. The board f*cked up.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:26 - Sep 20 with 2352 viewsFearOfAJackPlanet

Silk is basically insect shit, so we might be able to square this whole circle eventually.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:29 - Sep 20 with 2338 viewsImAlrightJack

We're rotten from back to front!. Manager with a language barrier, Yanks who want to run on a shoestring, Jenkins keeping the purse strings tight, players attitude and culture up the creek!!!.

A huge shake up needed, and that's an understatement.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:32 - Sep 20 with 2333 viewsPozuelosSideys

Do we really need 10 games to realise we are gash and dont have a strong enough squad? We could see this when the transfer window closed, and given our games coming up, it hard to see how we will have got many more points before then.

Remember, we lost to Hull, but Burnleys Championship side just about and nicked a point off a suicidal Chelsea. Changes need to be made asap somwhere or we will end up going on another awful 13 or 14 game streak like we did under Monk last season, only difference being we have far less quality in the squad now its all been shifted to prep for the next round of dividends.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 18:22 - Sep 20 with 2284 viewsA_Fans_Dad

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:25 - Sep 20 by deanscfc

I can only laugh at those who think the mess we are in is down to the manager. Change of manager won't make a bit of difference at the moment. The playing squad is not good enoygh, simple as that. The board f*cked up.


But they are not playing anywhere near as well as we all know they can.
That is the biggest concern, it is Monk all over again.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 18:48 - Sep 20 with 2255 viewsAngelRangelQS

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 18:22 - Sep 20 by A_Fans_Dad

But they are not playing anywhere near as well as we all know they can.
That is the biggest concern, it is Monk all over again.


The majority of the players are poor premier league players with a history of not being good enough for a starting spot in the top flight.

Don't know what Guidolin is supposed to do
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 20:08 - Sep 20 with 2177 viewsphact0rri

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 17:26 - Sep 20 by FearOfAJackPlanet

Silk is basically insect shit, so we might be able to square this whole circle eventually.


or a cocoon made from worm vomit... still not far off from the pitch at present.

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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 20:10 - Sep 20 with 2173 viewsAnotherJohn

You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 18:22 - Sep 20 by A_Fans_Dad

But they are not playing anywhere near as well as we all know they can.
That is the biggest concern, it is Monk all over again.


A team of average players with a sprinkling of stars can survive, but when you sell the stars you are in trouble (especially if the only one left goes through a bad patch). There is no history of the particular eleven who took the field on Sunday doing well over a sustained period. The only hope I see is Baston, but it is a big ask to come into the EPL and start scoring straight away.
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You can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear chaps on 23:59 - Sep 20 with 2065 viewsJack11

But with some imagination and tinkering you can make a purse though.
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