| Syria World War 3 10:42 - Apr 11 with 85559 views | Lord_Bony |
Is it about to kick off again? |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:14 - Apr 13 with 2185 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 15:51 - Apr 13 by Ebo |
You really believe everything the news channels are spewing? |
No but conversely I don't dis-believe all that they are "spewing". as ever the truth is somewhere in between
One for you, as the OPCW confirmed the Sarin attack 51 weeks ago, an attack the Russians rubbished can you tell me whether it is possible that there has been another attack?. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:19 - Apr 13 with 2176 views | Lord_Bony |
Simply asking my friend.
Before we go in all guns blazing let's find out if this is genuine or not.
Remember, there is probably chemical weapons in the hands of many different parties in this conflict.
If he did it, let's go in...but at least wait for the OPCW report and a vote put to Parliament. The Syrian government and the Russians asked them to come in and see for themselves immediately after the attack, shame its taken them so long to get their act together.
You cant just go in because you "think" he done it. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:22 - Apr 13 with 2170 views | Darran |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:19 - Apr 13 by Lord_Bony |
Simply asking my friend.
Before we go in all guns blazing let's find out if this is genuine or not.
Remember, there is probably chemical weapons in the hands of many different parties in this conflict.
If he did it, let's go in...but at least wait for the OPCW report and a vote put to Parliament. The Syrian government and the Russians asked them to come in and see for themselves immediately after the attack, shame its taken them so long to get their act together.
You cant just go in because you "think" he done it. |
Great post,very well said. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:26 - Apr 13 with 2165 views | Sir_Robin |
It doesn't make any sense for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people at this stage. No one is saying he has never used them before. |  | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:36 - Apr 13 with 2145 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:26 - Apr 13 by Sir_Robin |
It doesn't make any sense for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people at this stage. No one is saying he has never used them before. |
"It doesn't make any sense for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people at this stage. No one is saying he has never used them before."
You use the word "sense" in the same statement where you acknowledge his previous use of CW... WTF! | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:38 - Apr 13 with 2142 views | Sir_Robin |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:36 - Apr 13 by DJack |
"It doesn't make any sense for Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people at this stage. No one is saying he has never used them before."
You use the word "sense" in the same statement where you acknowledge his previous use of CW... WTF! |
Please tell us what he would have to gain from using chemical weapons on his own people and provoking the west at this stage. We're waiting. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:43 - Apr 13 with 2135 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:19 - Apr 13 by Lord_Bony |
Simply asking my friend.
Before we go in all guns blazing let's find out if this is genuine or not.
Remember, there is probably chemical weapons in the hands of many different parties in this conflict.
If he did it, let's go in...but at least wait for the OPCW report and a vote put to Parliament. The Syrian government and the Russians asked them to come in and see for themselves immediately after the attack, shame its taken them so long to get their act together.
You cant just go in because you "think" he done it. |
As the area is now controlled by Syria and Russia I'm not so sure that evidence could be gathered. The Russians asked them to come with the "support" of Russian forces...neutral my ass. Also, just to disavow you of a misconception...The OPCW NEVER attribute the perpetrator in any investigation - They are not allowed to, if attribution is to be made it is the UN and the UN position(which is often a competing mess) can be vetoed by any of the 5 members of the security council
NOWHERE have I advocated going in "all guns blazing" | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:51 - Apr 13 with 2125 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:38 - Apr 13 by Sir_Robin |
Please tell us what he would have to gain from using chemical weapons on his own people and provoking the west at this stage. We're waiting. |
He has indiscriminately used barrel bombs and CW on his civilian populace many times previously why would you think he would care now! We're waiting... | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 16:57 - Apr 13 with 2117 views | Sir_Robin |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:51 - Apr 13 by DJack |
He has indiscriminately used barrel bombs and CW on his civilian populace many times previously why would you think he would care now! We're waiting... |
Because he has all but won the war and has absolutely nothing to gain from doing so and everything to lose. Did you ignore my previous posts? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:02 - Apr 13 with 2106 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 16:57 - Apr 13 by Sir_Robin |
Because he has all but won the war and has absolutely nothing to gain from doing so and everything to lose. Did you ignore my previous posts? |
In the modern era any dictator/strong man who uses CW's is bereft of sense, so your (and others) fallacy of "nothing to gain" is a moot point.
I had not ignored previous posts from you...Based upon your poor reasoning skills , in the future I had best ignore your posts. Ta. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 17:07 - Apr 13 with 2101 views | Sir_Robin |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:02 - Apr 13 by DJack |
In the modern era any dictator/strong man who uses CW's is bereft of sense, so your (and others) fallacy of "nothing to gain" is a moot point.
I had not ignored previous posts from you...Based upon your poor reasoning skills , in the future I had best ignore your posts. Ta. |
So he did it for the sake of it. Thanks for clearing that up. I bow to your superior intelligence and reasoning skills. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:18 - Apr 13 with 2081 views | exiledclaseboy |
Is there some doubt about the veracity of claims about an aggressive foreign power’s use or possession of some kind of weapons?
Sounds vaguely familiar. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 17:35 - Apr 13 with 2052 views | exiledclaseboy |
Well I’m convinced.  | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 17:44 - Apr 13 with 2041 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:35 - Apr 13 by exiledclaseboy |
Well I’m convinced. |
That wasn't it's intention ya loon 
For me, the crux is that something MUST be done. What that is, is difficult to formulate because of the history on all sides, multiplied by the geopolitics of the superpowers - both currently headed by venal fûckers who have disregard for any view other than their own.
As we both know, nothing is simple when it comes to competing governments. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 18:43 - Apr 13 with 1992 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Syria World War 3 on 17:44 - Apr 13 by DJack |
That wasn't it's intention ya loon
For me, the crux is that something MUST be done. What that is, is difficult to formulate because of the history on all sides, multiplied by the geopolitics of the superpowers - both currently headed by venal fûckers who have disregard for any view other than their own.
As we both know, nothing is simple when it comes to competing governments. |
Will you do that something ? |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:06 - Apr 13 with 1974 views | Jack_Meoff |
| Syria World War 3 on 15:41 - Apr 13 by DJack |
"So a Western funded organisation reveals information that may lead to Western intervention? So dodgy. They are NOT a credible source."
That's an intellectually dishonest statement - essentially you are stating that if any organisation receives some funding from the west they become untrustworthy. You sir, are a fantasist, divorced from the realities of everyday life. You seek "truth" through a filter of self affirmation based upon your biases.
You talk history of western failures but strangely ignore the history of Syrian chemical weapon use - PROVEN by the OPCW. |
That wasn't what I meant, that was your interpretation. I meant in this instance. I admit it could have been worded better, in fairness.
The only fantasists are people who believe our government are, or have ever acted out of humanitarian concern when it comes to the Middle East. Ever. It's always been about what's in the ground, or wider geopolitical issues related to said natural resources.
Your arrogance and insults on this thread do you no favours either. Then again, it must be so frustrating to have to interact with others clearly not on your intellectual level. Like a Dostoevsky cast adrift on an ocean of Dan Browns...  |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:18 - Apr 13 with 1962 views | Neath_Jack |
Can anyone tell me why it's only us, the yanks and the French who are planning on going in large? What about the rest of the NATO members?
Another one, rather then going in two footed with military action, why can't Assad be put up for war crimes in The Hague? |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:26 - Apr 13 with 1953 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:18 - Apr 13 by Neath_Jack |
Can anyone tell me why it's only us, the yanks and the French who are planning on going in large? What about the rest of the NATO members?
Another one, rather then going in two footed with military action, why can't Assad be put up for war crimes in The Hague? |
Before or after Tony & George ? |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 19:44 - Apr 13 with 1927 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:18 - Apr 13 by Neath_Jack |
Can anyone tell me why it's only us, the yanks and the French who are planning on going in large? What about the rest of the NATO members?
Another one, rather then going in two footed with military action, why can't Assad be put up for war crimes in The Hague? |
They can’t do that second bit. He might tell everyone where he got the chemical weapons from. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:29 - Apr 13 with 1875 views | Kerouac |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:44 - Apr 13 by exiledclaseboy |
They can’t do that second bit. He might tell everyone where he got the chemical weapons from. |
What a stupid comment that is. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:31 - Apr 13 with 1875 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 19:06 - Apr 13 by Jack_Meoff |
That wasn't what I meant, that was your interpretation. I meant in this instance. I admit it could have been worded better, in fairness.
The only fantasists are people who believe our government are, or have ever acted out of humanitarian concern when it comes to the Middle East. Ever. It's always been about what's in the ground, or wider geopolitical issues related to said natural resources.
Your arrogance and insults on this thread do you no favours either. Then again, it must be so frustrating to have to interact with others clearly not on your intellectual level. Like a Dostoevsky cast adrift on an ocean of Dan Browns... |
That wasn't what I meant, that was your interpretation. I meant in this instance. I admit it could have been worded better, in fairness.
So if you could have worded it better then I might have correctly understood it? Fair one?
The only fantasists are people who believe our government are, or have ever acted out of humanitarian concern when it comes to the Middle East. Ever. It's always been about what's in the ground, or wider geopolitical issues related to said natural resources.
Look at my previous posts, I've said that these things are usually more about resources and/or geopolitics
Your arrogance and insults on this thread do you no favours either. Then again, it must be so frustrating to have to interact with others clearly not on your intellectual level. Like a Dostoevsky cast adrift on an ocean of Dan Browns..
I've been getting ranty because there is this weird illogical thought process that says we can't trust the western governments because of their previous actions/lies but we will put faith in the position of Syria/Russsia in spite of their previous action and lies! (and I'm stuck at home on the biff...cabin fever).
As to my intellectual level...I look up to the Chuckle Brothers and I've read neither Dan Brown nor Dostoevsky but I've seen it written that to fully understand the Russian authors you really need to understand the Russian language and then what may seem as dour or negative to us english speakers has a different meaning - satire/sarcasm | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:35 - Apr 13 with 1865 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:29 - Apr 13 by Kerouac |
What a stupid comment that is. |
Err, no, it is tongue in cheek! That said in this instance the CW's have been supplied by the Soviets and not the west. None of the superpowers(or security council members) are averse to selling weapons to questionable regimes. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:38 - Apr 13 with 1863 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:29 - Apr 13 by Kerouac |
What a stupid comment that is. |
It was a joke you humourless nerk. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 20:39 - Apr 13 with 1857 views | Kerouac |
| Syria World War 3 on 20:35 - Apr 13 by DJack |
Err, no, it is tongue in cheek! That said in this instance the CW's have been supplied by the Soviets and not the west. None of the superpowers(or security council members) are averse to selling weapons to questionable regimes. |
I thought he was alluding to the UK or the United States being the suppliers of Assad's chemical weapons.
If you actually meant Russia ECB, I apologise. | |
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