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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. 14:21 - Jun 13 with 7750 viewssherpajacob

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:28 - Jun 13 with 5848 viewsicecoldjack

Can’t get much closer than having a referendum and deciding to not follow through on the people’s wish .
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:31 - Jun 13 with 5834 viewsBatterseajack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:28 - Jun 13 by icecoldjack

Can’t get much closer than having a referendum and deciding to not follow through on the people’s wish .


Oh here we go again. There's a deal on the table that respects the referendum you dolt.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:40 - Jun 13 with 5816 viewsicecoldjack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:31 - Jun 13 by Batterseajack

Oh here we go again. There's a deal on the table that respects the referendum you dolt.


leave with no deal on March 29 th ?
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:42 - Jun 13 with 5810 viewsbluey_the_blue

Bet Gove's team briefed Rigby with that.

This could be interesting.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:43 - Jun 13 with 5809 viewssherpajacob

A few fundamentals

Parliament is sovereign.
No parliament may bind its successor.
A secret ballot is exactly that.

Boris wants to ignore at least 2 of those.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:48 - Jun 13 with 5798 viewsbluey_the_blue

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:43 - Jun 13 by sherpajacob

A few fundamentals

Parliament is sovereign.
No parliament may bind its successor.
A secret ballot is exactly that.

Boris wants to ignore at least 2 of those.


Parliament seems to want to bind it's successor to not leaving without a deal...
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:56 - Jun 13 with 5782 viewsJoe_bradshaw

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:48 - Jun 13 by bluey_the_blue

Parliament seems to want to bind it's successor to not leaving without a deal...


Parliament’s successor is the next Parliament which will be the one after the next GE.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:14 - Jun 13 with 5753 viewsmonmouth

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:48 - Jun 13 by bluey_the_blue

Parliament seems to want to bind it's successor to not leaving without a deal...


No they don’t.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:22 - Jun 13 with 5724 viewsNookiejack

When are the elections for the EU Commissioners? When will the people be able to vote them in or out of office?

How did Peter Mandelson become an EU Commissioner?

Who voted him in?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/mandelson-named-britain-s
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:23 - Jun 13 with 5717 viewsbluey_the_blue

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:14 - Jun 13 by monmouth

No they don’t.


I'm sure those wanting no deal blocked believe they can bind successive parliaments even if they can't.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:32 - Jun 13 with 5692 viewsHighjack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:22 - Jun 13 by Nookiejack

When are the elections for the EU Commissioners? When will the people be able to vote them in or out of office?

How did Peter Mandelson become an EU Commissioner?

Who voted him in?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/mandelson-named-britain-s


“He is also sure to be a key figure in a referendum Mr Blair has promised, probably in 2006, on the EU constitution.”

That nice Mr Blair and his promises.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:41 - Jun 13 with 5664 viewsLeonWasGod

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:22 - Jun 13 by Nookiejack

When are the elections for the EU Commissioners? When will the people be able to vote them in or out of office?

How did Peter Mandelson become an EU Commissioner?

Who voted him in?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/mandelson-named-britain-s


Such a lame argument. It's called indirect democracy. We vote people in to make decisions on our behalf, including nominating our Commissioners to the EU.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:44 - Jun 13 with 5659 viewsNookiejack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:32 - Jun 13 by Highjack

“He is also sure to be a key figure in a referendum Mr Blair has promised, probably in 2006, on the EU constitution.”

That nice Mr Blair and his promises.


‘This is a remarkable comeback for a politician who helped mastermind the Labour Party's 1997 election win but was later twice forced out of ministerial posts amid scandals.’

‘The first time he resigned, in December 1998, came after he failed to declare a 373,000 pound loan from a fellow government minister, which he used to buy a London house.

In 2001 he was forced out as Northern Ireland secretary over claims he backed passport applications of two Indian billionaire brothers after they agreed to fund London's ill-fated Millennium Dome.’

So a politician involved in scandals in the UK then gets a job as an EU Commissioner?

Yet can you vote that person in or out of office as an EU Commissioner?
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:45 - Jun 13 with 5653 viewsBatterseajack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 14:40 - Jun 13 by icecoldjack

leave with no deal on March 29 th ?


The brexit supporting MPs should have voted for the deal then. There's no mandate for no deal. Vote leave said it was scaremongering and project fear to suggest we'd leave without a deal during the referendum.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:52 - Jun 13 with 5643 viewsNookiejack

The big names backing Remain want you to forget how so many of them pushed for Britain to join the euro


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/remaining-in-the-eu-
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:54 - Jun 13 with 5642 viewssherpajacob

Never mind the brexit b0ll0cks.

Johnson's team asking MPs to photo their vote as proof of voting for him.

If true, as a minimum it should disqualify him. It should be a sackable offence and he should be removed from being an MP and possibly facing criminal charges.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:55 - Jun 13 with 5641 viewsNookiejack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:52 - Jun 13 by Nookiejack

The big names backing Remain want you to forget how so many of them pushed for Britain to join the euro


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/voices/remaining-in-the-eu-


‘The continent’s single currency, needless to say, has been an economic disaster. Yet had the pro-EU crowd had their way, Britain too would have been part of this union of monetary mess.’

‘Among many, it was self-evident that Britain should join the euro. Some of the most influential politicians in the 1990s and 2000s were fervently pro single currency. From Danny Alexander and Paddy Ashdown, to Tony Blair and Peter Mandelson, Ken Clarke, alongside Nick Clegg, Chris Huhne, and Chris Patten. At the same time, supposed key dispensers of financial and business wisdom in the country such as the Financial Times and the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) were also making the case for the euro.’
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:58 - Jun 13 with 5635 viewsbluey_the_blue

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:54 - Jun 13 by sherpajacob

Never mind the brexit b0ll0cks.

Johnson's team asking MPs to photo their vote as proof of voting for him.

If true, as a minimum it should disqualify him. It should be a sackable offence and he should be removed from being an MP and possibly facing criminal charges.


If true.

Possible criminal charges? Which charges would they be? It's an internal vote, nothing to do with entities such as electoral commission, for example. Equally, if there's no rule against it, then what should be done?
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:00 - Jun 13 with 5630 viewsNookiejack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:54 - Jun 13 by sherpajacob

Never mind the brexit b0ll0cks.

Johnson's team asking MPs to photo their vote as proof of voting for him.

If true, as a minimum it should disqualify him. It should be a sackable offence and he should be removed from being an MP and possibly facing criminal charges.


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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jun/12/farage-fu
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:06 - Jun 13 with 5618 viewssherpajacob

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:58 - Jun 13 by bluey_the_blue

If true.

Possible criminal charges? Which charges would they be? It's an internal vote, nothing to do with entities such as electoral commission, for example. Equally, if there's no rule against it, then what should be done?


It's a secret ballot. End of.

If you don't see this as an issue, you are part of the problem.

No surprise, Bluey thinks the Tories are exempt from their own rules.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:12 - Jun 13 with 5605 viewsJango

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:06 - Jun 13 by sherpajacob

It's a secret ballot. End of.

If you don't see this as an issue, you are part of the problem.

No surprise, Bluey thinks the Tories are exempt from their own rules.


Getting awfully agitated by a rumour on twitter. Starting to get to all you remainers. Funny how 99% of transfer rumours by journalists turn out to be bull***t but a post you want to be true by one on twitter is 100% gospel.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:22 - Jun 13 with 5567 viewsNookiejack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:00 - Jun 13 by Nookiejack

Criminal charges Like Jo Brand?


Farage furious over Jo Brand’s ‘throw battery acid not milkshake’ joke


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/culture/2019/jun/12/farage-fu


With all the nutcases about you then have a Remainer comedian inciting battery acid attack.

The milkshake attacks are bad enough.

Imagine if Farage had said something like this the other way around?

Are the police going to investigate this?
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:26 - Jun 13 with 5561 viewssherpajacob

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:12 - Jun 13 by Jango

Getting awfully agitated by a rumour on twitter. Starting to get to all you remainers. Funny how 99% of transfer rumours by journalists turn out to be bull***t but a post you want to be true by one on twitter is 100% gospel.


Rumour maybe: The political editor of sky news reporting what was said to them by a member of the 1922 committee.

It may not be a true, it is possible a senior tory is lying.

its nothing to do with leave or remain its the minor matter of choosing the next PM.

Strange how those who were most vocal about voting leave because of democracy and sovereignty now seem willing to abandon both.

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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:43 - Jun 13 with 5526 viewsbluey_the_blue

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 15:45 - Jun 13 by Batterseajack

The brexit supporting MPs should have voted for the deal then. There's no mandate for no deal. Vote leave said it was scaremongering and project fear to suggest we'd leave without a deal during the referendum.


There was a mandate for no deal when MPs voted for Article 50 to be invoked, when both the deadline and default with position were known.
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The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 17:14 - Jun 13 with 5479 viewsBatterseajack

The end of democracy in the UK just got a lot closer. on 16:43 - Jun 13 by bluey_the_blue

There was a mandate for no deal when MPs voted for Article 50 to be invoked, when both the deadline and default with position were known.


Weird logic. If extending article 50 is an option, how is there no mandate to use it?
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