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Humanity 08:45 - Nov 8 with 2746 views

Not my words but an interesting reminder that all societies can be capable of terrible deeds , even those who have been persecuted for centuries.

"Here's something the British government and it's Jewish community leaders would most likely wish forgotten — the killing of 784 British police officers, servicemen, Crown servants and civilian staff by Jewish terrorists in the Palestine Mandate crisis between 1944–48.
All par for the course. The British government’s attempt to “forget” the sacrifice of these servicemen and dump them down the memory hole is very reminiscent of another similarly embarrassing episode, the murderous Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.
The British servicemen and police were a peacekeeping force serving in what was known as the British Palestine Mandate enclave just after the war. This Mandate was agreed as part of the Balfour Declaration and it was due to elapse in May, 1948.
It was a time of great tension. The Arabs were beginning to realize that the promises and assurances they had been given at Balfour counted for nothing and their homeland was being given away. The Jewish settlers were being reinforced by the illegal immigration of thousands of Jews from war-devastated Europe and reinforced by armaments from the Soviet Union and financial support from the USA.
Holding the line between them were young British servicemen and police, many of whom had come straight from the war in Europe and had taken part in the liberation of such camps as Bergen-Belsen, only to find themselves shot at and blown up by Jewish terrorists. Their deaths left a lasting bitterness among the veterans and their families.
The deaths included the hanging by piano wire of two 20-year-old British Army sergeants, Mervyn Paice and Clifford Martin, who in 1947 were kidnapped by Irgun and held hostage for three weeks.
Their bodies were left hanging in a eucalyptus grove and were booby trapped with land mines.
Also the 100 British Army personnel, Crown servants and civilians who were murdered by means of a huge bomb planted by the Irgun in the basement of the King David Hotel, Jerusalem in July 1946. Another 28 British soldiers died in the bombing of the Haifa Cairo train.
It is not widely known that the terrorism spread to Britain. Last weekend’s wreath-laying ceremony near Trafalgar Square took place at the site of the British Colonies Club, which was bombed by members of the Irgun terrorist group on 7th March 1947 when numerous people were injured and maimed.
In Britain, another victim was Rex Farran, brother of the intended target, Captain Roy Farran DSO, MC — an SAS anti-terrorism specialist. Rex opened a parcel bomb addressed to “R. Farran” at the Farran family home in Staffordshire. A total of 20 letter bombs were sent in mainland Britain.
Many attacks took place while the war was still going. These include the murder of Lord Moyne, Secretary of State for the Colonies, and his British Army driver, Corporal Fuller, on 6th November 1944 while British forces were still fighting in France. The hand-gun assassinations were carried out in Cairo by the Stern Gang.
It was the same terrorists, from the Irgun and Stern Gang, who collaborated on a massacre of at least 100 Arab civilian villagers at the village of Deir Yassin, on 10th April 1948.
As with the murder of the two young sergeants, the Deir Yassin operation was organised by Menachem Begin, later a prime minister of Israel. He also received a Nobel Peace Prize.
On May 19, 1947 the British government protested to the United States against American fund-raising drives for Palestine terrorist groups. The complaint referred to a “Letter to the Terrorists of Palestine” by playwright and screenwriter Ben Hecht, American League for a Free Palestine co-chairman, first published in the New York Post on May 15. The ad said, “We are out to raise millions for you.” This letter included the infamous phrase that every time British soldiers were shot or blown up “the Jews of America make a little holiday in their hearts.” During that period Hecht wrote under a pseudonym to avoid the British boycott of his work in effect until the early 1950s.
Hecht also wrote a Broadway play to raise money. In A Flag is Born, the role of a Holocaust survivor was played by Marlon Brando. The London Evening Standard called it “the most virulent anti-British play ever staged in the United States.” However, Jewish syndicated columnist Walter Winchell, whose column appeared in over 2000 newspapers worldwide, said it was “worth seeing, worth hearing, and worth remembering. … It will wring your heart and eyes dry. … Bring at least 11 handkerchiefs.”
The deaths of British servicemen and the murderous ingratitude of the Jewish community caused a huge shock in post-war Britain. It is not widely known that the two young sergeants affair led to the last widespread anti-Jewish riots in Britain. Shop windows were smashed across Britain but especially in Glasgow, Liverpool and Manchester.
Despite the anger among the British, up until 2001 there was no memorial and it was only after 60 years that the Ministry of Defence agreed that the conflict merited its own campaign medal.
Today Robert Misrahi is one of those peculiarly French creations — the popular TV philosopher. The Sorbonne-trained academic enjoys a reputation as a media figure and a professor of ethical philosophy. But back in 1947 he was part of the Irgun gang which planted the bomb in the Colonies Club. He has never even been questioned over his part in the bombing.
Another of the culprits responsible for the King David Hotel went onto to enjoy a long life in Britain and boasted freely about her exploits without fear of any legal impediment.
Miriam Abramoff lived openly in the London suburbs and was giving interviews about her infamous past as recently as 2012. She died in 2014 at the age of 88. She frequently returned to Israel and always took tea at the King David Hotel “It is so beautiful there now” she said.
Should Israel pay compensation to the victims of Zionist terrorism and their families, build a ‘Museum of Zionist Terrorism’ in Jerusalem and institute courses about Zionist terrorism in Israel’s schools as a warning to future generations? "

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

Humanity on 00:03 - Nov 11 with 1036 views

Demitrius

Humanity on 14:32 - Nov 10 by Boundy
and the bigger worry is , which other party could step in right now. Reform leads the way but have they the nous within the ranks to take this country forward.

I think at this stage, and the utterly desperate times we find ourselves in, Reform is our only realistic and "last hope Obi Wan Kenobi..."

I'm no mug, I have many reservations about Nigel F and I'm not the bleating blind sheep the presss would love to paint people like me as... but.....Their overiding message is to stop the rot and push back on the madness and for that they currently have my support...

There is no alternative if you want a safe and secure country...

The Yoghurt knitting Gay Tit Hypnotiser, F-wit Ed Davey, the wrecked Tories, Jezbollah...?

Nah..... most sane people will vote in the national interest and that party is currently Reform...

“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

Humanity on 10:44 - Nov 11 with 977 views

union_jack

Humanity on 00:03 - Nov 11 by Demitrius

Exactly my thoughts.

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Humanity on 00:03 - Nov 11 by Demitrius

I think this is the thoughts of many, the sheep just can't see it.

Humanity on 12:59 - Nov 11 with 935 views

onehunglow

Humanity on 00:03 - Nov 11 by Demitrius

Just brilliant though Jezza wants a peaceful inclusive society where asylum seekers feel welcomed and supported
Yeah baby

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Humanity on 15:25 - Nov 11 with 894 views

trampie

I have written what is in the opening post almost word for word in the past on here on a few different occasions, you dont believe it when I write it or something Bounty do you ?

Why do these modern army types support the Zionists when they killed their colleagues for no good reason in years gone by is a mystery.

Yet in plastic paddy land when they get killed for a reason/cause and for some reason that is all wrong.

It's bizarre.

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trampie

It widely believed that Mossad created the English Defence League and are now backing the English right wing.

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trampie

Remember over 100 beeb employees demanding change over how the Beeb was reporting the Gaza conflict, they are going to get change now but not the change they want I would think.

Is Raffi Berg still there ?

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Boundy

Humanity on 15:25 - Nov 11 by trampie

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Your question "I have written what is in the opening post almost word for word in the past on here on a few different occasions, you dont believe it when I write it or something Bounty do you?"
I often skim read your rambling posts ,was that another one , if so I'll try and pay more attention next time, try being the operative word.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

Humanity on 09:38 - Nov 12 with 662 views

onehunglow

Humanity on 07:13 - Nov 12 by Boundy
Your question "I have written what is in the opening post almost word for word in the past on here on a few different occasions, you dont believe it when I write it or something Bounty do you?" I often skim read your rambling posts ,was that another one , if so I'll try and pay more attention next time, try being the operative word.

I’ve been busy of late schooling Celtic fans
An unpleasant stain on humanity

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Humanity on 09:54 - Nov 12 with 648 views

Boundy

Humanity on 09:38 - Nov 12 by onehunglow
I’ve been busy of late schooling Celtic fans An unpleasant stain on humanity

Can't disagree with that , any group of fans who boo during a minutes silence to remember the dead has to be pretty low , don't agree with the sentiment thats fine but allow others to pay their respects in a dignified manner but what else do you expect when their freedom fighters decide it all part of the "cause " to plant a bomb detonate a bomb close to a memorial service.

"In a free society, the State is the servant of the people—not the master."

Humanity on 10:02 - Nov 12 with 628 views

trampie

Humanity on 09:54 - Nov 12 by Boundy
Can't disagree with that , any group of fans who boo during a minutes silence to remember the dead has to be pretty low , don't agree with the sentiment thats fine but allow others to pay their respects in a dignified manner but what else do you expect when their freedom fighters decide it all part of the "cause " to plant a bomb detonate a bomb close to a memorial service.

Some of those people might look at it that soldiers are killers who killed their innocent people, remember the Republican funeral where soldiers drove at the funeral procession (yes I know they were executed) but they showed them no respect did they by allegedly spying on them at a funeral.

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trampie

Humanity on 09:38 - Nov 12 by onehunglow
I’ve been busy of late schooling Celtic fans An unpleasant stain on humanity

Just seen it that Cèltic fans through their foundation have just given £100,000 to charity to help the starving etc.

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Demitrius

Humanity on 10:04 - Nov 12 by trampie
Just seen it that Cèltic fans through their foundation have just given £100,000 to charity to help the starving etc.

Proof positive then, that The Famine is definitely over....

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“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

Humanity on 12:17 - Nov 12 with 545 views

Boundy

Humanity on 10:02 - Nov 12 by trampie
Some of those people might look at it that soldiers are killers who killed their innocent people, remember the Republican funeral where soldiers drove at the funeral procession (yes I know they were executed) but they showed them no respect did they by allegedly spying on them at a funeral.

A scum bag doesn't go any where near describing you .

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Humanity on 12:40 - Nov 12 with 512 views

trampie

Humanity on 12:17 - Nov 12 by Boundy
A scum bag doesn't go any where near describing you .

I personally wouldn't do anything disrespectful but you need to put yourself in another man's shoes, lots of people think Celtic fans are great for their humanitarian stance and this thread is called 'Humanity'.

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Demitrius

Humanity on 10:02 - Nov 12 by trampie
Some of those people might look at it that soldiers are killers who killed their innocent people, remember the Republican funeral where soldiers drove at the funeral procession (yes I know they were executed) but they showed them no respect did they by allegedly spying on them at a funeral.

That's not what happened and you know it. Not everything is a conspiracy Trampie.You make it sound like they deliberately drove into the mourners and injured people

They were two Rookie troops familiarizing themselves with the area and took a wrong turn. They'd been warned not to go into that area of town but didn't realise they were heading into an IRA funeral procession. Corporals don't get to play at espionage FFS!

Their car was attacked and then one panicked and fired a gun in the air. The Provos thought they were Loyalists and then SAS, and given the high tensions of recent events lynch mob mentality took over ....

That incident in Liverpool in May reminded straight away of this...

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“Cunnilingus and Psychiatry brought us to this …”

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Boundy

Humanity on 12:48 - Nov 12 by Demitrius

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I could have posted the same but then that's me giving him credibility for his sick post.

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Humanity on 13:46 - Nov 12 with 432 views

trampie

Humanity on 12:48 - Nov 12 by Demitrius

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Did the BBC tell you that Demitrius ?, mind you I agree that not everything is a conspiracy.

The first article I read on the BBC bosses resigning story, I looked at the comments (as I tend to do) and the first comment was Orgreave that the Beeb had totally changed the story from the police attacking the miners to the miners attacking the police this was backed up by other posters then the next thing in the comments was what about Northern Ireland and a link to a story about a 15 year old boy eating a bag of chips with his friends when a British Army squaddie shot him dead, the Beeb made out they had a rifle, they were terrorists etc, shocking, they were ordinary boys eating chips on a wall, fine decades later enquires found them to be totally and utterly innocent, so that is why I ask 'did the BBC tell you that' ?

The other side of the story you refer to is were they spies ?, that they were going to follow certain 'faces' and report back to their handlers where they had gone after the funeral or even worse tell some loyalist murder gang the location, familiarising themselves with the area do me a favour, I might have been born at night but it wasn't last night and why did they have guns with them when they were off duty.

As regards what happened at face value, it was terrible and shocking but from memory (I'm not going researching as I have other things to do), the SAS had executed unarmed IRA people including a woman in the street in front of shoppers, women and children, shoot to kill no trial just state execution, then when one of them was been buried a loyalist terrorist attacked them at the graveside with grenades I think ? (I think people were killed) and then the next funeral can't remember if it was from Gibraltar or the cemetery these two squaddies drive a car at the funeral procession, now I'm no paddy or Catholic but to them they were under attack and took action, to this day some of them think they were spies or sas or freelance for loyalist murder squads, to say they were out for a joyride and took the wrong turning is less believable.

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Demitrius

Not the BBC but people who were in NI at the time.

That's as far as I am prepared to comment on it.

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trampie

Humanity on 14:09 - Nov 12 by Demitrius
Not the BBC but people who were in NI at the time. That's as far as I am prepared to comment on it.

From what you are saying then the saying 'if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it's duck' is not always true and that might be the case in this instance.

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