Tonight 23:16 - Nov 5 with 1249 views | Wizaard | Sitting in Kings Cross as all trains suspended much like Tony McMahon. Not an exaggeration to say he cost us two points tonight. At 2-0 we were comfortable, looking like we'd add to our lead. The sending off cost us dear. As I saw it, I'm not at all sure he made contact but the ref would have seen something out of the corner of his eye and reacted to the crowd. He shouldn't have been giving the ref the chance to send him off. As a result, we went deeper and conceded an unnecessary goal following a poor touch from Daniels. That goal was crucial as if we'd gone in two up I really think we'd have hung on. You can't fault the effort in the second half with Lewis making some fantastic saves but it was defence v attack for the whole half. Positives to be taken from the performance but two points dropped. | ![](/images/avatars/15067.gif) | | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 23:22 - Nov 5 with 1231 views | Don_K_Lasher | Good to hear some positive news, even if it was onlyfor the first 45 minutes. | ![](/images/avatars/15955.gif) |
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Tonight on 23:29 - Nov 5 with 1219 views | ribble | Thanks for that, Wiz. Good luck with getting home. | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 23:33 - Nov 5 with 1216 views | Wizaard |
Tonight on 23:29 - Nov 5 by ribble | Thanks for that, Wiz. Good luck with getting home. |
Cheers. Signalling problem at Finsbury Park. Just what we needed. If it goes on much longer, Wilf might have additional guests in his Earls Court hotel | ![](/images/avatars/15067.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 00:10 - Nov 6 with 1186 views | Wizaard |
Tonight on 23:33 - Nov 5 by Wizaard | Cheers. Signalling problem at Finsbury Park. Just what we needed. If it goes on much longer, Wilf might have additional guests in his Earls Court hotel |
To add to how I saw it, defensively we were solid enough, sacrificing the width in favour of dealing with crosses as they came in. With Dunne, Daniels and Clarke in effect playing as a central three with Blackman as an auxiliary full back, we coped fairly comfortably in the main. Lundstram did a lot better than Saturday but didn't really get forward. Perkins made a difference in closing them down. Up front, Miller was massive in the first half, with Murphy looking fast and dangerous off him. All in all, real positives undone by a moments madness. I ll go to Elland Rd thinking we can really do something. Bring it on. PS Just leaving Kings Cross. Should be home around 3.45 [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 0:37]
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Tonight on 01:17 - Nov 6 with 1153 views | Bedfordseasider |
Tonight on 00:10 - Nov 6 by Wizaard | To add to how I saw it, defensively we were solid enough, sacrificing the width in favour of dealing with crosses as they came in. With Dunne, Daniels and Clarke in effect playing as a central three with Blackman as an auxiliary full back, we coped fairly comfortably in the main. Lundstram did a lot better than Saturday but didn't really get forward. Perkins made a difference in closing them down. Up front, Miller was massive in the first half, with Murphy looking fast and dangerous off him. All in all, real positives undone by a moments madness. I ll go to Elland Rd thinking we can really do something. Bring it on. PS Just leaving Kings Cross. Should be home around 3.45 [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 0:37]
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Wiz If you're really stuck . Get to St Pancras & train to Bedford(they run until 2:30 ish I can you up . | ![](/images/avatars/15220.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 01:31 - Nov 6 with 1146 views | Wizaard |
Tonight on 01:17 - Nov 6 by Bedfordseasider | Wiz If you're really stuck . Get to St Pancras & train to Bedford(they run until 2:30 ish I can you up . |
Cheers Ian. Thanks for the offer, but we've now set off. Due back to Leeds around 3.30. Work at 8.00 | ![](/images/avatars/15067.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 06:13 - Nov 6 with 1131 views | stu | Thanks for that wiz, much appreciated. Could this be the start of a new dawn...... | ![](/images/avatars/16154.gif) |
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Tonight on 09:00 - Nov 6 with 1072 views | Wizaard |
Tonight on 06:13 - Nov 6 by stu | Thanks for that wiz, much appreciated. Could this be the start of a new dawn...... |
Pretty sure that without the sending off we'd've won that. We were comfortable until the red mist descended. | ![](/images/avatars/15067.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) | Login to get fewer ads
Tonight on 09:13 - Nov 6 with 1060 views | Lala |
Tonight on 09:00 - Nov 6 by Wizaard | Pretty sure that without the sending off we'd've won that. We were comfortable until the red mist descended. |
Radio commentary was really positive, again they blamed Mcmahon totally for the loss of a game where we seemed to have real impetus. he didn't make contact according to the radio, but as you say, he shouldn't be reacting like that, does he have captaincy temperament ? How did Ranger look ? I feel quietly confident that Clark may have the management skills our squad now needs......after months of negativity between chairman and manager it must be refreshing to not have that negativity in the dressing room. [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 9:16]
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Tonight on 09:44 - Nov 6 with 1039 views | straightatthewall |
Tonight on 09:13 - Nov 6 by Lala | Radio commentary was really positive, again they blamed Mcmahon totally for the loss of a game where we seemed to have real impetus. he didn't make contact according to the radio, but as you say, he shouldn't be reacting like that, does he have captaincy temperament ? How did Ranger look ? I feel quietly confident that Clark may have the management skills our squad now needs......after months of negativity between chairman and manager it must be refreshing to not have that negativity in the dressing room. [Post edited 6 Nov 2014 9:16]
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In terms of the game, Wiz sums it up pretty much. We were doing well and causing them problems and then the sending off changed everything. I wouldn't get too over optimistic just yet though. The players are the same ones who've been here all season and whatever anyone wants to say about positivity, the reality is, we still have far too many who aren't good enough. Miller was much better last night though and you can see that when he's ready and willing to really put himself about he's more than a handful. The problem is, we're already well adrift and it will take promotion form till the end of the season to stop us going down. We simply aren't good enough to do that based on the current squad. | ![](/images/avatars/15308.gif) |
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Tonight on 10:08 - Nov 6 with 1026 views | terminallytangerine |
Tonight on 09:44 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | In terms of the game, Wiz sums it up pretty much. We were doing well and causing them problems and then the sending off changed everything. I wouldn't get too over optimistic just yet though. The players are the same ones who've been here all season and whatever anyone wants to say about positivity, the reality is, we still have far too many who aren't good enough. Miller was much better last night though and you can see that when he's ready and willing to really put himself about he's more than a handful. The problem is, we're already well adrift and it will take promotion form till the end of the season to stop us going down. We simply aren't good enough to do that based on the current squad. |
The mathematicians will correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that we will need to win half our games to stay up, a big ask after the poor start, so SATW is right to be cautious. We can but live in hope and it is still early days for the new manager. All credit to those who went last night, and I hope Wizard has arrived home by now. UTMP | ![](/images/avatars/0.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
Tonight on 10:29 - Nov 6 with 1006 views | straightatthewall |
Tonight on 10:08 - Nov 6 by terminallytangerine | The mathematicians will correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that we will need to win half our games to stay up, a big ask after the poor start, so SATW is right to be cautious. We can but live in hope and it is still early days for the new manager. All credit to those who went last night, and I hope Wizard has arrived home by now. UTMP |
Without wishing to detract from what was generally a good performance by the 10 men, both goals were easily avoidable and that's a problem we have that MUST be fixed if we have any chance of surviving (which i don't think we do...) The irony is, both Daniels and Lewis look Championship quality to me, yet both were to blame for the goals (Clarke can also take a share for the 2nd.) | ![](/images/avatars/15308.gif) |
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Tonight on 10:41 - Nov 6 with 997 views | Lala |
Tonight on 10:29 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | Without wishing to detract from what was generally a good performance by the 10 men, both goals were easily avoidable and that's a problem we have that MUST be fixed if we have any chance of surviving (which i don't think we do...) The irony is, both Daniels and Lewis look Championship quality to me, yet both were to blame for the goals (Clarke can also take a share for the 2nd.) |
I think 10 men also contributed towards conceding 2 SATW.. | ![](/images/avatars/16750.gif) |
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Tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 with 993 views | straightatthewall |
Tonight on 10:41 - Nov 6 by Lala | I think 10 men also contributed towards conceding 2 SATW.. |
Of course it did. But the actual goals were soft and down to individual errors. | ![](/images/avatars/15308.gif) |
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Tonight on 10:49 - Nov 6 with 989 views | Lala |
Tonight on 10:46 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | Of course it did. But the actual goals were soft and down to individual errors. |
Yep - still not sure we would have conceded though, not at that point, if McMahon hadn't been sent off. Radio made it sound as though the first goal came from the space left by TM......and the players were bound to have been unsettled the moments immediately after the Red. But you know more than me....you were actually there | ![](/images/avatars/16750.gif) |
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Tonight on 11:10 - Nov 6 with 981 views | straightatthewall |
Tonight on 10:49 - Nov 6 by Lala | Yep - still not sure we would have conceded though, not at that point, if McMahon hadn't been sent off. Radio made it sound as though the first goal came from the space left by TM......and the players were bound to have been unsettled the moments immediately after the Red. But you know more than me....you were actually there |
Lewis made plenty of good saves second half so he did his bit, but anytime you concede direct from a corner the keeper won't be happy about it. Don't get me wrong either. The sending off was the biggie and it cost us 2 points. We'd looked good and comfortable up until that point. | ![](/images/avatars/15308.gif) |
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Tonight on 11:23 - Nov 6 with 968 views | Lala |
Tonight on 11:10 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | Lewis made plenty of good saves second half so he did his bit, but anytime you concede direct from a corner the keeper won't be happy about it. Don't get me wrong either. The sending off was the biggie and it cost us 2 points. We'd looked good and comfortable up until that point. |
Stop being reasonable....it doesn't suit.... | ![](/images/avatars/16750.gif) |
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Tonight on 11:38 - Nov 6 with 960 views | straightatthewall |
Tonight on 11:23 - Nov 6 by Lala | Stop being reasonable....it doesn't suit.... |
I try to be patient with you on account of you being a girl and all that..... | ![](/images/avatars/15308.gif) |
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Tonight on 11:39 - Nov 6 with 958 views | Lala |
Tonight on 11:38 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | I try to be patient with you on account of you being a girl and all that..... |
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Tonight on 12:50 - Nov 6 with 911 views | Wizaard |
Tonight on 09:44 - Nov 6 by straightatthewall | In terms of the game, Wiz sums it up pretty much. We were doing well and causing them problems and then the sending off changed everything. I wouldn't get too over optimistic just yet though. The players are the same ones who've been here all season and whatever anyone wants to say about positivity, the reality is, we still have far too many who aren't good enough. Miller was much better last night though and you can see that when he's ready and willing to really put himself about he's more than a handful. The problem is, we're already well adrift and it will take promotion form till the end of the season to stop us going down. We simply aren't good enough to do that based on the current squad. |
I thought Miller was much better because he had someone alongside him in Murphy who had real pace and could therefore threaten them. As a result we were further up the pitch because they had to drop deeper to counter the threat. Midfield could pick up the ball with a bit more space.and were therefore more creative. The sending off lost us that as Miller became isolated, with Murphy playing deeper in a 441 | ![](/images/avatars/15067.gif) | | ![](/images/icons/ignore-user.png) |
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