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British sinking of the French fleet 20:24 - Sep 16 with 3142 viewstrampie

Was the British sinking of a large portion of the French fleet in North África in 1940 necessary ?

The British conduct in the war was superb and something rightly to be proud of but was the sinking and huge loss of life suffered by our allies at our own hands necessary ?
When we bombed Germán cities, they were the enemy and had bombed us but attacking the French to make sure the Germans did not get their ships when the French assured us they would never let the Germans get their ships did not seem cricket.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:26 - Sep 16 with 1894 viewsLohengrin

Have you been watching the History Channel all day or something?

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 with 1878 viewslondonlisa2001

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:26 - Sep 16 by Lohengrin

Have you been watching the History Channel all day or something?


cbeebies :-)
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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 with 1877 viewsDr_Winston

Quite a lot of the French were our enemy in WW2 as well, a fact that they'd probably quite like to forget.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:35 - Sep 16 with 1865 viewslifelong

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 by londonlisa2001

cbeebies :-)


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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:37 - Sep 16 with 1863 viewsLohengrin

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston

Quite a lot of the French were our enemy in WW2 as well, a fact that they'd probably quite like to forget.


Oran was a tragedy for all concerned.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:38 - Sep 16 with 1855 viewstrampie

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:26 - Sep 16 by Lohengrin

Have you been watching the History Channel all day or something?


No, but Dunkirk and the Battle of Britain has been in the news a lot recently and I had a Grandmother in Oran back in the day who could speak Welsh and French and the attack on the French fleet there at that time seemed to be below the belt, but key to us winning the war as it told the World that we would do what it took no matter what, the story was if the Germans had invaded then we would have used poison gas on them, the British are ferocious fighters and when their backs are against the wall then the rest can watch out.
They were desperate times and we would seemingly take desperate measures to win, it did not seem by our actions that we had control over the playing field during the summer months in 1940.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:41 - Sep 16 with 1838 viewsLohengrin

What was your Grandmother doing in Algeria? Was she married to a Vichy serviceman?

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:49 - Sep 16 with 1827 viewstrampie

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 by Dr_Winston

Quite a lot of the French were our enemy in WW2 as well, a fact that they'd probably quite like to forget.


Most of the French were our allies and they took us killing their sailors (1,200 odd sailors ?) as a betrayal and a few years later true to their word they scuttled the rest of their fleet in Toulon to stop the Germans taking control of the fleet, the head of French navy gave the British a I told you so and the head of the British fleet that had attacked the French in their harbour was very upset about what we had done and that we would not have a friend in the World.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:50 - Sep 16 with 1820 viewsEvenThisNameIsTaken

Any suspicions regarding the use of the fleet in the hands of the germans during these times needed to be acted upon, regardless of any assurances provided by the french.

Afterall, didn't the french also assure the world the nazis wouldn't be able to invade France due to the 'heavily fortified' Maginot Line??

The french capitulated and while you may claim the move by the british was 'under the belt', you seem to forget that Britain was fighting for its life.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:55 - Sep 16 with 1812 viewsDarran

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:35 - Sep 16 by lifelong

I like CBeebies, Mr Tumble is my favourite.


Bubble Guppies is good too.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:56 - Sep 16 with 1807 viewsplasjack

Been to the library lately have we Trampie, who translated it from English to Welsh for you.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 20:56 - Sep 16 with 1804 viewstrampie

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:41 - Sep 16 by Lohengrin

What was your Grandmother doing in Algeria? Was she married to a Vichy serviceman?


No, she stayed out there for a few years as a friend of the family had business interests out there.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:03 - Sep 16 with 1790 viewslifelong

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:55 - Sep 16 by Darran

Bubble Guppies is good too.


Mr Bloom the gardener is good, gets all sorts of offers from mothers of toddlers watching the show, apparently.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:05 - Sep 16 with 1786 viewsDarran

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:03 - Sep 16 by lifelong

Mr Bloom the gardener is good, gets all sorts of offers from mothers of toddlers watching the show, apparently.


Really? I'll have to have a look.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:08 - Sep 16 with 1775 viewslifelong

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:05 - Sep 16 by Darran

Really? I'll have to have a look.


If you google it there's a Daily Mail article about him, some mothers have been contacting the show, one of the said that he could play with her melons any day of the week.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:09 - Sep 16 with 1773 viewsplasjack

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:31 - Sep 16 by londonlisa2001

cbeebies :-)


Is in the night garden still on?.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:17 - Sep 16 with 1755 viewsDarran

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:08 - Sep 16 by lifelong

If you google it there's a Daily Mail article about him, some mothers have been contacting the show, one of the said that he could play with her melons any day of the week.


I hope it wasn't Mrs Lifelong?

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:20 - Sep 16 with 1752 viewsDr_Winston

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:09 - Sep 16 by plasjack

Is in the night garden still on?.


I miss being able to watch that with my nieces and pretending that they're enjoying it more than me.

Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:23 - Sep 16 with 1746 viewslifelong

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:17 - Sep 16 by Darran

I hope it wasn't Mrs Lifelong?


Mrs Lifelong is too busy playing with my melons.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:24 - Sep 16 with 1745 viewsDarran

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:23 - Sep 16 by lifelong

Mrs Lifelong is too busy playing with my melons.


Fair point.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:27 - Sep 16 with 1736 viewslifelong

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:24 - Sep 16 by Darran

Fair point.


I'm lucky Mrs Lifelong doesn't read this site or I wouldn't have any melons.
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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:31 - Sep 16 with 1728 viewsDarran

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:27 - Sep 16 by lifelong

I'm lucky Mrs Lifelong doesn't read this site or I wouldn't have any melons.


Another fair point.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:39 - Sep 16 with 1714 viewsLohengrin

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:56 - Sep 16 by trampie

No, she stayed out there for a few years as a friend of the family had business interests out there.


An eye-witness to history though, all the same.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:43 - Sep 16 with 1707 viewsLohengrin

British sinking of the French fleet on 20:50 - Sep 16 by EvenThisNameIsTaken

Any suspicions regarding the use of the fleet in the hands of the germans during these times needed to be acted upon, regardless of any assurances provided by the french.

Afterall, didn't the french also assure the world the nazis wouldn't be able to invade France due to the 'heavily fortified' Maginot Line??

The french capitulated and while you may claim the move by the british was 'under the belt', you seem to forget that Britain was fighting for its life.


Actually despite the aura of invincibility that surrounds Blitzkrieg in those sectors where the Germans did actually try to assault The Maginot Line in 1940 they were stopped in their tracks with heavy losses. The line's failing was it didn't extend beyond French borders.

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British sinking of the French fleet on 21:50 - Sep 16 with 1694 viewstrampie

British sinking of the French fleet on 21:39 - Sep 16 by Lohengrin

An eye-witness to history though, all the same.


She was out there in the early 1920s not in the 40s.

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