| Gylfi not going on US tour 10:15 - Jul 13 with 34602 views | pencoedjack |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:40 - Jul 13 with 2760 views | PozuelosSideys |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 10:48 - Jul 13 by LeonWasGod |
Sadly, there will be a whole bunch of vitriol against him now. It's what some of our fans seem to do when a successful player of manager leaves. Jilted lover syndrome. |
If we got £40-50m for him, plus all the goals, assists and good work he has done for us over the years, il be delighted. Even moreso if its invested in the squad properly. No vitriol from me.
The Res is a bit over the top with his comments, but hes correct when it comes to the bigger picture - the huge caveat being the club getting it right! |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:49 - Jul 13 with 2694 views | jacksfullaces |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:18 - Jul 13 by ymaohyd |
Behind the scenes the club have known all summer that he'd be gone, was always going to be a lot of posturing from all parties.
The job in hand from the end of last season was to improve the squad to the extent that we would be looking at mid table security with a run in a cup competition.
As it stands at the moment, we appear to have made an excellent signing in Messa, Abraham may be an inspired signing, however as it stands we are nowhere near what or where we should be. It's an unfair statement, however we haven't progressed at all and are highly likely to be in an almighty relegation scrap again.
It amazes me every season that teams who play with relegation don't seem to learn lessons and end up back in the same sh it the following season.
All this could change, however the club faces an almighty challenge in the coming weeks. If Gylfi had stayed we should have been far more active in the market than we have been and seem to be heading the same way as the afore mentioned type of doomsday clubs.
Now Gylfi appears to be going you can double the intensity of everything....have we done our homework etc? It's going to be a hell of a few weeks! |
were we already in credit on the outgoings vs incomings piece (amat/borja/cork/..gomis... mainly squad or not even squad players) so add siggy into the mix too.
guess first thing to establish is were we (at the end of the season) sitting on a solid premier league squad that needed tweaking, or (as the previous summer) a fragile squad that needed a massive overhaul.
either way we need a few signings, and does llorente now become less important without siggy. If so, we have taken 2 important players out of the 1st XI |  | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:49 - Jul 13 with 2688 views | monmouth |
This is all just a soap opera. Hasn't it been obvious how it would play out? He is at the height of his media hype, of course he wants to leverage it. Who wouldn't? The only unexpected thing here is the size of the fee. I expected around 20m tops if I'm honest, so lucky I'm not running transfers.
What we are doing now I assume, is trying to wring out some add ons and/or hopefully forcing the player to ask for a transfer to avoid paying the ludicrous loyalty bonus to a player that is patently disloyal (he obviously thought he could have his cake and eat it....maybe watching the sellouts too closely).
Can't understand the hysteria myself. This is what always happens in football. You don't see Southampton crying when they get pillaged year on year, they just get on with it. He did it for us, we did it for him. Move on, no regrets, no tears. We'll survive, up to us to use the windfall, and by god it is, to improve the team.
40m is a fantastic deal for the club given that this was going to happen one way or another anyway, whichever way you cut it. |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:58 - Jul 13 with 2625 views | Birchgrovejack |
The biggest question is whether or not the club spend the money, like someone said on the balance of things we haven't spent a penny yet really.
Can you see the club spending 40m on players after this sale, i cant, well end up spending about 20m i reckon.
Also if its not upfront cash,then its not much good if you ask me. look at the bony money the installments we are due(if any left) is not going to get any player of note in the market the way it is now. imagine what players will be worth next summer the way its going. |  | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:59 - Jul 13 with 2609 views | LeonWasGod |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:49 - Jul 13 by monmouth |
This is all just a soap opera. Hasn't it been obvious how it would play out? He is at the height of his media hype, of course he wants to leverage it. Who wouldn't? The only unexpected thing here is the size of the fee. I expected around 20m tops if I'm honest, so lucky I'm not running transfers.
What we are doing now I assume, is trying to wring out some add ons and/or hopefully forcing the player to ask for a transfer to avoid paying the ludicrous loyalty bonus to a player that is patently disloyal (he obviously thought he could have his cake and eat it....maybe watching the sellouts too closely).
Can't understand the hysteria myself. This is what always happens in football. You don't see Southampton crying when they get pillaged year on year, they just get on with it. He did it for us, we did it for him. Move on, no regrets, no tears. We'll survive, up to us to use the windfall, and by god it is, to improve the team.
40m is a fantastic deal for the club given that this was going to happen one way or another anyway, whichever way you cut it. |
As PC said, let's just get it done and then crack on. |  | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:04 - Jul 13 with 2569 views | monmouth |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:58 - Jul 13 by Birchgrovejack |
The biggest question is whether or not the club spend the money, like someone said on the balance of things we haven't spent a penny yet really.
Can you see the club spending 40m on players after this sale, i cant, well end up spending about 20m i reckon.
Also if its not upfront cash,then its not much good if you ask me. look at the bony money the installments we are due(if any left) is not going to get any player of note in the market the way it is now. imagine what players will be worth next summer the way its going. |
I want the club in a strong financial position with a team we are proud of. How they achieve that is up to them. I don't give two f**ks about obsessing about whether we spend 40m or 20m on the players needed to do that. | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:06 - Jul 13 with 2554 views | raynor94 |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:49 - Jul 13 by monmouth |
This is all just a soap opera. Hasn't it been obvious how it would play out? He is at the height of his media hype, of course he wants to leverage it. Who wouldn't? The only unexpected thing here is the size of the fee. I expected around 20m tops if I'm honest, so lucky I'm not running transfers.
What we are doing now I assume, is trying to wring out some add ons and/or hopefully forcing the player to ask for a transfer to avoid paying the ludicrous loyalty bonus to a player that is patently disloyal (he obviously thought he could have his cake and eat it....maybe watching the sellouts too closely).
Can't understand the hysteria myself. This is what always happens in football. You don't see Southampton crying when they get pillaged year on year, they just get on with it. He did it for us, we did it for him. Move on, no regrets, no tears. We'll survive, up to us to use the windfall, and by god it is, to improve the team.
40m is a fantastic deal for the club given that this was going to happen one way or another anyway, whichever way you cut it. |
Exactly, no one player is bigger than the Club, thanks for the memories Gylfi, can't wait to give you shit when you return |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:24 - Jul 13 with 2434 views | A_Fans_Dad |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:24 - Jul 13 by andypitt56 |
Caroll has a pretty wicked left foot, I am sure he can step up. Olsson knows how to strike a ball as well. |
I agree and Fer is not that bad either, now if Sigi goes perhapes they will practice it more, before there was no point because Sigi always took them. | | | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:33 - Jul 13 with 2376 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
If our intention was to sell him then playing him yesterday was idiotic. |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:44 - Jul 13 with 2330 views | Birchgrovejack |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:04 - Jul 13 by monmouth |
I want the club in a strong financial position with a team we are proud of. How they achieve that is up to them. I don't give two f**ks about obsessing about whether we spend 40m or 20m on the players needed to do that. |
I want to win the league and not spend a penny. That's not going to happen. The team won't be strong enough or creative enough without siggy to survive. You have to replace quality and that will cost.
If they spent the full siggy money on players club would still break even and so financially the club wouldn't be affected. | | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:46 - Jul 13 with 2310 views | Legend83 |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:33 - Jul 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
If our intention was to sell him then playing him yesterday was idiotic. |
Can't disagree with that.
One snapped ACL and poof, £40m up in smoke. | | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:49 - Jul 13 with 2288 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:46 - Jul 13 by Legend83 |
Can't disagree with that.
One snapped ACL and poof, £40m up in smoke. |
Most likely around £8m up front, with the rest of the money coming in future instalments, leaving us short of cash and having to rely on loans to get by.
Hopefully lessons have been learnt since the Bony calamity. [Post edited 13 Jul 2017 13:56]
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:55 - Jul 13 with 2251 views | Tom1912 |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 12:22 - Jul 13 by grfn |
Caroll is decent with dead ball |
Carroll has a fantastic cross in him at times.
See Llorente's second v Liverpool away and winner v Burnley home.
I know they weren't dead ball but still. | | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:56 - Jul 13 with 2240 views | Uxbridge |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:49 - Jul 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
Most likely around £8m up front, with the rest of the money coming in future instalments, leaving us short of cash and having to rely on loans to get by.
Hopefully lessons have been learnt since the Bony calamity. [Post edited 13 Jul 2017 13:56]
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You seem to be confusing guaranteed stage payments, like the Bony or Ayew deal, with conditional payments.
The former is very much the norm these days, both in terms of our sales and our purchases. Even more so with FFP around. |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:59 - Jul 13 with 2208 views | DwightYorkeSuperstar |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:56 - Jul 13 by Uxbridge |
You seem to be confusing guaranteed stage payments, like the Bony or Ayew deal, with conditional payments.
The former is very much the norm these days, both in terms of our sales and our purchases. Even more so with FFP around. |
No, I was angry with the guaranteed payments. Receiving only £9m upfront left us in a terrible position. No striker and little money to replace him. Of course the conditional payments were laughable too. £300,000 each time they won a trophy until 2019.
We should be looking to receive most of this Gylfi money upfront so we can replace him straight away, not relying on loans from directors or colossal overdraft agreements with banks. | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:04 - Jul 13 with 2174 views | Uxbridge |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:59 - Jul 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
No, I was angry with the guaranteed payments. Receiving only £9m upfront left us in a terrible position. No striker and little money to replace him. Of course the conditional payments were laughable too. £300,000 each time they won a trophy until 2019.
We should be looking to receive most of this Gylfi money upfront so we can replace him straight away, not relying on loans from directors or colossal overdraft agreements with banks. |
If it was £10m upfront and £30m next year, then the club could just go to the bank and borrow £29m against that future £30m. No problem at all - we saw that with the Ayew deal for example. If interest rates were sky high I'd see your point, but it's a relatively minor consideration. Plus, you would hope the club would factor such things into the relevant price of the deal.
Completely agree that a) we should get the most money as is possible and b) that should be spent this window (christ knows we could do with some freshening up) though. I'm definitely of the view that if we could sell Gylfi and strengthen across the park, we could be in a much stronger position.
As for Gylfi, I have no idea if the press reports regarding him dropping this on the club are true, but if they are it's very poor form. I'd have expected better. | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:06 - Jul 13 with 2161 views | Elward |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 13:59 - Jul 13 by DwightYorkeSuperstar |
No, I was angry with the guaranteed payments. Receiving only £9m upfront left us in a terrible position. No striker and little money to replace him. Of course the conditional payments were laughable too. £300,000 each time they won a trophy until 2019.
We should be looking to receive most of this Gylfi money upfront so we can replace him straight away, not relying on loans from directors or colossal overdraft agreements with banks. |
He is a good player, but he can be replaced, but will he be replaced is what most people i imagine are annoyed about. If he was sold for 40 million and that was going to go back into the team and buying quality, i don't think many would be too bothered. I believe its more the fact people know we will get a loanee or buy a player for 5 million and the directors will pocket the rest. | | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:19 - Jul 13 with 2084 views | raynor94 |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:06 - Jul 13 by Elward |
He is a good player, but he can be replaced, but will he be replaced is what most people i imagine are annoyed about. If he was sold for 40 million and that was going to go back into the team and buying quality, i don't think many would be too bothered. I believe its more the fact people know we will get a loanee or buy a player for 5 million and the directors will pocket the rest. |
Why not wait and see what happens before assuming it, Clement had a good January window, I have faith in him strengthening on the back of the Gylfi money | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:20 - Jul 13 with 2081 views | TheFranchise |
Michu was valued at £30m by the club and not sold. That didn't work out too well for us.
Hopefully we get this deal done right and done quickly. |  | | |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:23 - Jul 13 with 2055 views | Loyal |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 10:20 - Jul 13 by jack247 |
Well at least it's imminent now. If he is going to go, we need to get top dollar and have time to spend it. Last thing we want is a soap opera until the end of August. |
Supporting this team is a fcking soap opera mate 😂 |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:25 - Jul 13 with 2040 views | TheFranchise |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:23 - Jul 13 by Loyal |
Supporting this team is a fcking soap opera mate 😂 |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:26 - Jul 13 with 2021 views | Loyal |
| Gylfi not going on US tour on 10:29 - Jul 13 by TheResurrection |
Well, well, well, well,..... WELL....
Siggy "AND" Llorente not going to the States.....
Now, who would have thought that....??
Oh yeah, me!!!
Let the Siggy hate begin!!!! |
Here's hoping the yanks do some spending. Both big gaps to fill mate. | |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:27 - Jul 13 with 2010 views | Neath_Jack |
But, but he said he doesn't want to go mun.
When will grown men realise that players are only here for a very short period of time, and they will move on (there are the odd exceptions). Making up reasons why they won't move, or why the club they are going to isn't going to be a step up for us. It honestly sounds like a teenage boy when their girlfriend leaves them for the captain of the rugby team.
You wonder why Res continues to wind you all up when you act like that?
Dew dew boys mun. |  |
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| Gylfi not going on US tour on 14:34 - Jul 13 with 1960 views | icecoldjack |
Said not so long ago that I think he's gone, nothing changed on that front, if he hasn't travelled it's because his agent has told him not to.
That's football ,if any player has earned a move away it's him, practically kept us up for the last 3 season's so we must give credit for that at least.
As for future planning, it's sad that as a club we always seem to be on the back foot struggling to find a key replacement, siggy has been a target for a while so ill be pretty peed off if we haven't done any forward thinking..sadly I think I know the answer already .
Wish him well if he wants to go please fook off pronto so the club can fook up his choice of replacement. |  | | |
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