| The UK union or the EU ? 17:52 - Dec 5 with 3409 views | trampie |
If there is to be a second referendum on Brexit it looks like that the upshot of the vote will be to determine whether the UK says together or not.
A second leave vote will mean an end to the UK in the short term whereas a remain vote will keep the UK intact for the medium term. |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:53 - Dec 5 with 3342 views | ItchySphincter |
Scotland wants in, London wants in, all it will take is a little swing in Wales now that people have realised how stupid they were and the Union is in tact for the foreseeable future. |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:53 - Dec 5 with 3341 views | felixstowe_jack |
Will it? |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 20:13 - Dec 5 with 3320 views | LeonWasGod |
I don't see how. Scotland are the closest but they don't have enough support to break away. N. Ireland aren't going anywher, especially with the DUP calling the shots in Westminster. And Wales has an identity crisis and has tied itself up with the language issue, meaning it's people are probably the furthest from wanting a break from the UK. |  | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:07 - Dec 5 with 3283 views | Jack123 |
This brexit thing is truly farcical, I can see the way this is going, another vote and remain! Is there any point in voting, when the powers above manipulate to ferk, to get what they want! |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:07 - Dec 5 with 3283 views | BigPhilG |
We've had a referendum we won't be having another one. Swansea, Wales and the U.K. Voted leave and leave we will. The UK won't break up either. Time to move on |  | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 23:20 - Dec 5 with 3213 views | the_oracle |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:07 - Dec 5 by BigPhilG |
We've had a referendum we won't be having another one. Swansea, Wales and the U.K. Voted leave and leave we will. The UK won't break up either. Time to move on |
Swansea West voted remain | | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 00:10 - Dec 6 with 3195 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:07 - Dec 5 by BigPhilG |
We've had a referendum we won't be having another one. Swansea, Wales and the U.K. Voted leave and leave we will. The UK won't break up either. Time to move on |
So there was a lady called the Maybot and she spent 2 years getting a very bad deal, that means the british border in the north of ireland will mean different treatment from mainland uk.
And Scotland voted Remain.
As did the north of ireland.
The union will be dead in 5 years. |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:14 - Dec 6 with 3108 views | ItchySphincter |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:07 - Dec 5 by BigPhilG |
We've had a referendum we won't be having another one. Swansea, Wales and the U.K. Voted leave and leave we will. The UK won't break up either. Time to move on |
Of course we will remain.
Don’t be so silly. | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:51 - Dec 6 with 3087 views | Catullus |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 23:20 - Dec 5 by the_oracle |
Swansea West voted remain |
So we'll have a hard border in Swansea West then shall we?
Why do people say thing slike this as if it's significant? It's what the majority votes for that matters. Or it should. As we have seen, our politicians are busy subverting the vote.
I'll still take the Union but it is something I've wondered about. If the EU shifted to proper elections for the leadership positions I could go with it but having unelected politicians decide who will succeed them is wrong. There's corruption, nepotism and self interest as we saw with "two promotions in ten minutes Martin Selmayr" | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:53 - Dec 6 with 3085 views | BigPhilG |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:14 - Dec 6 by ItchySphincter |
Of course we will remain.
Don’t be so silly. |
It will be under WTO which I think is what the Torys want anyway and all that's going on now is just a big political game | | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 09:09 - Dec 6 with 3077 views | Catullus |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:53 - Dec 6 by BigPhilG |
It will be under WTO which I think is what the Torys want anyway and all that's going on now is just a big political game |
Most of the Tory party want to remain. The EU dresses itself up as worker friendly but ti's more compatible with corporate greed.
Lets face it, the EU is making it easier for people to travel far and wide to look for work. There is massive emigration/immigration but why are people these days calling that a good thing? When Norman Tebbit said get on your bike and look for work he was condemned for it. Yet today people consider it a good thing that millions have to uproot and look for work hundreds of miles from home.
It's not helping our society but it is helping the coporate greed section. Wages are kept down, cheap labour is plentiful and their profits are booming and people say it's good? | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 12:20 - Dec 6 with 3033 views | valleyboy |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:53 - Dec 5 by ItchySphincter |
Scotland wants in, London wants in, all it will take is a little swing in Wales now that people have realised how stupid they were and the Union is in tact for the foreseeable future. |
Scotland wants independence, so it will mean them leaving the EU
A country that wants independence but still wants pounds sterling as their currency
How dull is that
Then if they were then admitted to the EU they would then be forced to take the Euro as their currency
Myself I would leave them go and then wait a few years for them to come crawling back, as they did once before | | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 12:28 - Dec 6 with 3021 views | Catullus |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 12:20 - Dec 6 by valleyboy |
Scotland wants independence, so it will mean them leaving the EU
A country that wants independence but still wants pounds sterling as their currency
How dull is that
Then if they were then admitted to the EU they would then be forced to take the Euro as their currency
Myself I would leave them go and then wait a few years for them to come crawling back, as they did once before |
The Scottish, well their politicians want the best of both worlds. They haven't even considered that leaving the UK could happen fairly quickly and there could be a few years gap between that and being allowed to join the EU, assuming they were allowed.
The OP, well Trampie is making it up anyway. Another referendum doesn't mean indepepdence is any closer for any UK member, he's just sabre rattling again, hoping the more noise he makes about it the more people will agree. Trampie and Kilkenny are very much in the minority. | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 12:28 - Dec 6 with 3020 views | valleyboy |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 00:10 - Dec 6 by Kilkennyjack |
So there was a lady called the Maybot and she spent 2 years getting a very bad deal, that means the british border in the north of ireland will mean different treatment from mainland uk.
And Scotland voted Remain.
As did the north of ireland.
The union will be dead in 5 years. |
You must be dull to think that the Union will be dead in 5 years
Wales haven’t a chance in hell to go independent
Northern Ireland will without a doubt stay in the Union
And the people of Scotland are not that dull, that they know taxes will rise more than the rest of the U.K. as they have already done to fill the budget deficit they will undoubtly have
The support for the SNP is already on the wane, with it falling even more in the coming years with their idealogical push for independence | | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:08 - Dec 6 with 2950 views | felixstowe_jack |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 12:20 - Dec 6 by valleyboy |
Scotland wants independence, so it will mean them leaving the EU
A country that wants independence but still wants pounds sterling as their currency
How dull is that
Then if they were then admitted to the EU they would then be forced to take the Euro as their currency
Myself I would leave them go and then wait a few years for them to come crawling back, as they did once before |
The SNP want independence. The people of Scotland REJECTED independence is their most recent referendum. The electorate voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent in favour of Scotland remaining within the UK. 2014
Not sure Wales ever had a referendum on independence but only a 7,000 majority in favour of the Welsh Assembly.
NI had a 98.9 percent vote to remain in the UK in their 1973 referendum | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:11 - Dec 6 with 2946 views | the_oracle |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 08:51 - Dec 6 by Catullus |
So we'll have a hard border in Swansea West then shall we?
Why do people say thing slike this as if it's significant? It's what the majority votes for that matters. Or it should. As we have seen, our politicians are busy subverting the vote.
I'll still take the Union but it is something I've wondered about. If the EU shifted to proper elections for the leadership positions I could go with it but having unelected politicians decide who will succeed them is wrong. There's corruption, nepotism and self interest as we saw with "two promotions in ten minutes Martin Selmayr" |
The post I answered said Swansea had voted leave. It didn't. One of the constituencies did , the other didn't. | | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:53 - Dec 6 with 2922 views | exiledclaseboy |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:11 - Dec 6 by the_oracle |
The post I answered said Swansea had voted leave. It didn't. One of the constituencies did , the other didn't. |
Swansea has three constituencies, two of them (Swansea West and Gower) voted to remain. It was the huge majority for leave in Swansea East that swung the city as a whole for leave.
These are only best guesses mind, the votes were counted by council area, not parliamentary constituency. |  |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 20:00 - Dec 6 with 2911 views | Humpty |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:11 - Dec 6 by the_oracle |
The post I answered said Swansea had voted leave. It didn't. One of the constituencies did , the other didn't. |
It was pretty obvious why you said it mate. To anyone with a brain. |  | | |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 20:36 - Dec 6 with 2887 views | Kilkennyjack |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:08 - Dec 6 by felixstowe_jack |
The SNP want independence. The people of Scotland REJECTED independence is their most recent referendum. The electorate voted 55 per cent to 45 per cent in favour of Scotland remaining within the UK. 2014
Not sure Wales ever had a referendum on independence but only a 7,000 majority in favour of the Welsh Assembly.
NI had a 98.9 percent vote to remain in the UK in their 1973 referendum |
Although some people might say ....
Scotland voted against independence as that assured they stay in the EU.
Now thats no longer the case, then indy2 is going to happen.
And tben Scotland will be free.
The north of Ireland will have a majority catholic republican population by 2021.
Its not 1973 anymore.
And the GFA ensures that then the island of Iteland will be free.
That leaves Cymru.
Englands first and last colony.
The dynamics of Englands Brexit and both Ireland and Scotland breaking free, will change Wales.
Wales in the EU like Ireland and Scotland - or stuck with England in a brexidiot nightmare.
The union is dead. | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:20 - Dec 6 with 2862 views | Catullus |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 19:11 - Dec 6 by the_oracle |
The post I answered said Swansea had voted leave. It didn't. One of the constituencies did , the other didn't. |
Ah sorry......I'm guilty of not reading all new posts, just the latest ones, lazy get I am see. | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 21:24 - Dec 6 with 2855 views | Catullus |
| The UK union or the EU ? on 20:00 - Dec 6 by Humpty |
It was pretty obvious why you said it mate. To anyone with a brain. |
I suppose I could answer insult with insult but I do try not to sink to that level. I don't always succeed. | |
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| The UK union or the EU ? on 22:04 - Dec 6 with 2836 views | trampie |
Plaid heartlands across Wales and Labour heartlands in the South are Remain.
Labour areas in the North and Conservative areas in Wales and what was Liberal areas in mid Wales are for the deal. | |
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