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Cardiff City v Swansea City
Leckwith ish.
Saturday December 12th 2020
Kick off 12.30pm
Officials
JOHN BROOKS
Nick Greenhalgh and Akil Howson
Fourth Official : Keith Stroud
TV : Swans TV & Sky Sports
It’s Welsh derby time, the real Welsh derby where by all accounts form counts for nothing. Over the years it’s apparent that the swans hold the kudos as Wales premier footballing team, no doubt. Compared to Cardiff who have spent two unsuccessful seasons in the premier league the swans have had a top ten finish, wowed the football world with their style of play, and won a major trophy. European campaigns are ‘foreign’ to Cardiff.
What is a Cardiff
To be perfectly honest a Cardiff is a thing of joy, an ever evolving gift of failure and unhappiness, and joy for all swans fans. Having taken four points off them last season, quickly forgotten by the reds, or blues or whatever this fixture goes ahead without fans. It could prove a slight leveller for Cardiff not having that daft accent being screamed at them continuously for ninety minutes. To understand a Cardiff you have to understand that Barcelona, that pretty decent side in Spain have always aspired to be as big as the South Wales club. For years they have spoken of being the new Cardiff, their fan base requiring the whole of a country to follow them. You can quickly see where the issues are.
The people who dwell in this area are quite small, almost dwarf like which gives further insight in to their mindset. Being small people ( not land of the giants small ) that would be very odd, they have the desire to thrust their opinions on anyone who will listen. Which isn’t a lot of people. Before history started Cardiff was a village, about the same size as their home attendances for midweek games, a few hundred souls huddled together by a smelly river. They actually evolved from a river fish called a ‘Claaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder, this would later become the areas only claim to fame. This fish by all accounts lived in the river beds of Cardiff village fearing that locals would try and talk to them and do their heads in. Later, as sperm was invented and Cardiff people stopped eating it the fish became agile enough to leave their homes. They grew tin foil feet and developed a pastry based topping. Their insides were made of dried mud and lumps of brown jelly. The ‘Claaaaaaaarkes’ bottom feeder without knee caps was born.
The ‘Claaaaaarkes’ pie, with an E. See the mud combination ?
The football club, which formed before Barcelona hence the connection Is often revered by people who aren’t too good at reading but enjoy fiction. There are a wealth of fictional tales of glory and success written by such wonderful names like Anus as an example. You will often find words in these books, well, sort of words which have been passed down the bottom feeder family tree. ‘Ninian Paaaaaaaark’ Road is a term often used by taxi drivers who recently passed their tests when driving was allowed in the area. About 2006. When they go to the bank they say ‘Baaaaaaaaarclays’ and their only well known figure is Frank Hennessy who invented eating and talking hence the dialect. Frank is dead now, but other people who sound like him often gather together and practice eating and talking in what sounds like a choking gurgle recently injected with hallucinating liquid or porridge.
The bottom feeder in illustration. This is Frank Hennessy’s father on a sunny day
The match Referee
John Brooks
Brookie as we know him, or Brooksy, Brooko, sometimes Johnny or Jonno, even JB, or the J Bro, J or Brookla to his mate Dave, is a referee. He lives in Leicester and hasn’t reffed a swans game this year, not season, year. He has reffed Cardiff twice and said after both games ‘What a pile of old garbage they are, I will make sure they lose the Welsh derby’ or words to that effect. He isn’t a referee with a lot of bad decisions made, unless you count in Cardiff who have never been happy with him in the past. And that doesn’t count. Because they are very small people which makes their brains even smaller than the average rat.
Brooks bonded to the game
Cardiff City players to look out for
Tom Watson
Born in 1903 Watson was a feature of the very recent FA cup game at Wembley. Now 117 years of age he has been used less and less in recent times but never say never. Cardiff fans know all about him, they talk about him a lot, and they love 1927 even more. It was so recent it makes sense to talk about it, nobody apart from Tom Watson is still alive from that day.
Here is Tom running about at Wembley, he could easily feature in Saturdays game as he is only 117 years of age. The low attendance that day, 91,000 was boosted by quite a few thousand football fans from Swansea, saving the blushes of Cardiff’s modern day support.
TEAM NEWS LATEST
What is the latest team news?
Cardiff are sweating on the fitness of summer signing Harry Wilson.
The Wales international was withdrawn during the Bluebirds' 2-1 win over Stoke City in midweek due to an arm injury.
And Neil Harris has admitted the problem could sideline the versatile attacker this weekend, although Wilson will be given until the day of the game to prove his availability.
Isaac Vassell (quad) and Jordi Osei-Tutu (hamstring) both remain sidelined while Lee Tomlin is not expected to be available until January at the earliest after undergoing groin surgery.
Swansea will once again be without Morgan Gibbs-White (foot) and George Byers (groin).
They also have concerns over Ryan Bennett and Marc Guehi ahead of the game in the Welsh capital.
Bennett has missed Swansea's last two games due to a hamstring issue while Guehi sat out the 0-0 draw with Bournemouth after taking a blow to the head in the Swans' 2-0 triumph over Luton Town.
Both defenders will be given every opportunity to prove their fitness ahead of the game at Cardiff City Stadium.
Managers Thoughts
Cardiff Manager Neil Harris:
“It’s a huge game. Bragging rights are at stake. It’s a massive game. I was watching some footage earlier of the game back in January. The stadium was packed, atmosphere was electric. Both clubs will miss the fans. It’s a great fixture in the football calendar, one of the biggest games of the season in the Championship.
“Fans will be missed but it doesn’t take away the importance of it.“
“We know the importance to the fan base.“
Harris was asked if he understood the importance of this game for the Cardiff fans,
“Course I do. It’s never lost on me.“
“In my playing career, they are the best games to play in.
“I know the importance to the fan base and that will certainly be mentioned in the changing room. It already has been.
“It’s not a joy for people in lockdown in the lead up to Christmas and they can’t watch their team. There’s been a hardship and we have an opportunity to put smiles on faces.“
Swansea manager Steve Cooper also spoke about the fans:
“It will be different in terms of the game and atmosphere,
“They were electric atmospheres last season, as anyone who was there will tell you, so we can’t shy away from it, it is different.
“That’s why you cannot compare with previous seasons or previous games.
“But is a game that means an awful lot to supporters, it’s one we really want to win and one we want to really commit to and attack.
“It is for the supporters. I want them to see a team working hard and giving their best because football is so important to so many people.
“It will be a perfect chance to give a bit back and we will be committing to that.”
TEAMS TO FOLLOW
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 20:33 - Dec 9 with 1672 views | Dr_Parnassus |
Harry Wilson is a doubt I think, picked up an arm muscle injury which is an odd one.
I expect him to play though.
But having him a bit hampered with some kind of injury can only be a good thing. Only two players concern me in their side. Wilson and Moore.
Not that I think Moore is a good player but he is the type of forward that has seems to have joy against us. |  |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 22:11 - Dec 9 with 1609 views | Nortbankboy |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 20:33 - Dec 9 by Dr_Parnassus |
Harry Wilson is a doubt I think, picked up an arm muscle injury which is an odd one.
I expect him to play though.
But having him a bit hampered with some kind of injury can only be a good thing. Only two players concern me in their side. Wilson and Moore.
Not that I think Moore is a good player but he is the type of forward that has seems to have joy against us. |
Moore is a better player than people give him credit for.
Prepare for long throws,getting ball Fordward fast and an Arial bombardment |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:08 - Dec 9 with 1572 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:36 - Dec 9 by 34dfgdf54 |
They've played same side 4 x games in a row now and despite the win, apparently it was a very tired performance yesterday with Stoke having 11 players out.
I'd freshen things up, I have a gut feeling Guehi and Bennett will both be fit for the game and weren't risked yesterday.
.............................................Freddie....................................................
.................Cabango..............Bennett...............Guehi...........................
Roberts.................................................................................Bidwell...
.................................Grimes...............Fulton.......................................
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................................Ayew...................Lowe.........................................
Harsh on Naughton and Latibeaudiere, but the former out for the height they'll bring on set pieces and the latter has shown he was a more than good enough deputy, but he's being built up for seasons in future. Last night's defence were excellent but this will be a different kettle of fish Saturday and the lack of height would cost us.
Would be very tempted to give Cullen a run instead of Lowe but not the Sheff Weds performance against two big centre halves put me off, I rate the Cardiff centre halves highly for this level but they can be got at by pace hence Lowe.
Fulton/Palmer in to freshen us up, haven't had the the minutes the other guys have had to endure and both give us a bit of extra physicality when having to defend their set pieces. |
I like your team selection Risca.
Might change Fulton, but i think its the perfect shape and selection for this game.
If Cooper fecks off, you should step up fella.
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:16 - Dec 9 with 1567 views | Fireboy2 |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:08 - Dec 9 by Kilkennyjack |
I like your team selection Risca.
Might change Fulton, but i think its the perfect shape and selection for this game.
If Cooper fecks off, you should step up fella.
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Fulton is ten times the player Smith is. |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:49 - Dec 9 with 1553 views | NotLoyal |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 22:11 - Dec 9 by Nortbankboy |
Moore is a better player than people give him credit for.
Prepare for long throws,getting ball Fordward fast and an Arial bombardment |
Same tactics we always see from them, lump it and hope.
And they wonder why they can’tstay in the premier league and win major trophies😂😂😂😂 | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 06:51 - Dec 10 with 1501 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:49 - Dec 9 by NotLoyal |
Same tactics we always see from them, lump it and hope.
And they wonder why they can’tstay in the premier league and win major trophies😂😂😂😂 |
Well well, hello old friends. I didn’t even know this site still existed 
There’s been I bit of a split I believe? |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 08:22 - Dec 10 with 1467 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 23:49 - Dec 9 by NotLoyal |
Same tactics we always see from them, lump it and hope.
And they wonder why they can’tstay in the premier league and win major trophies😂😂😂😂 |
Major trophies like the two mickey mouse cups in your cabinet?  It's all about the triangle flags bois... | | | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 08:34 - Dec 10 with 1461 views | Nortbankboy |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 08:22 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
Major trophies like the two mickey mouse cups in your cabinet? It's all about the triangle flags bois... |
That's nearly 100 yrs ago.
Come up to date,who was the first Welsh club to play in the premiership? | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:03 - Dec 10 with 1443 views | sP7qupUf |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 08:34 - Dec 10 by Nortbankboy |
That's nearly 100 yrs ago.
Come up to date,who was the first Welsh club to play in the premiership? |
Good One..... Wonder how those FA Cup winners the Royal Engineers and Corinthian Casuals are getting on? The Bluebirds triumph much closer to that era than now. | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:47 - Dec 10 with 1414 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 08:34 - Dec 10 by Nortbankboy |
That's nearly 100 yrs ago.
Come up to date,who was the first Welsh club to play in the premiership? |
Fck me, I forgot you lot were founded in 2011  Who won the first South Wales Prem derby? | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:49 - Dec 10 with 1413 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:03 - Dec 10 by sP7qupUf |
Good One..... Wonder how those FA Cup winners the Royal Engineers and Corinthian Casuals are getting on? The Bluebirds triumph much closer to that era than now. |
History is history I guess... You can't put a time frame on success  Unless of course you support Swansea and then History only goes as far back as 2011  | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:00 - Dec 10 with 1406 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:49 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
History is history I guess... You can't put a time frame on success Unless of course you support Swansea and then History only goes as far back as 2011 |
Well recent history is certainly more relevant isn't it. Especially seeing as league cup win in the modern era vastly outweighs a FA cup win nearly a century ago... |  |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:08 - Dec 10 with 1399 views | NotLoyal |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 06:51 - Dec 10 by bennytheblue |
Well well, hello old friends. I didn’t even know this site still existed
There’s been I bit of a split I believe? |
Not at all, Phil left to set up his own thing, best mates with the site owner here. So, after a lot of encouragement Keith took over the site, it’s flying. People are enjoying it, and if they don’t they can go elsewhere. Better to have fifteen thousand happy clicks than and extra twenty thousand troublesome idiots. The real problems have left or been banned. | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:42 - Dec 10 with 1358 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:13 - Dec 10 by NotLoyal |
Swans had 47k there. But stop this size comparison, it makes people here feel uneasy from someone so small. |
Well done? do you get a medal for that old son? I'm quite perplexed as to why you mention size a lot? It hints to me that you're lacking in some type of way and therefore feel the need to mention it? | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:48 - Dec 10 with 1356 views | Chief |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:41 - Dec 10 by CCFCTOM |
Considering pro football isn't ancient history i'm struggling to see your point? A league cup will unfortunately (for you) always be the mickey mouse cup. You always end up second best to us? Despite all the recent success hahahaah! You forget, Liverpool was hardly a scalp and they fielded a second string side... I'll give you Chelsea I guess, they were the only decent side you played. |
Fair play to you. Rattled enough to research the Liverpool side in a midweek league cup game all those years ago. Some would say obsessed  . We weren't full strength ourselves&they still had the likes of Suarez playing but we comfortably won. But you know this seeing as you've researched our cup run.
Was the league cup mickey mouse when you lost your final then? Give over - it would have been the greatest achievement in footballing history if you'd won it! | |
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| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:50 - Dec 10 with 1354 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 09:01 - Dec 10 by bennytheblue |
You wouldn’t mind if the yanks changed your main kit colour from white then? Red white and blue maybe?  a load of old bollocks though I agree particularly in the current climate of global problems |
That’s the difference.
Wouldn’t happen with us. |  | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:51 - Dec 10 with 1352 views | 34dfgdf54 |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:48 - Dec 10 by Chief |
Fair play to you. Rattled enough to research the Liverpool side in a midweek league cup game all those years ago. Some would say obsessed . We weren't full strength ourselves&they still had the likes of Suarez playing but we comfortably won. But you know this seeing as you've researched our cup run.
Was the league cup mickey mouse when you lost your final then? Give over - it would have been the greatest achievement in footballing history if you'd won it! |
The way that Gerrard was crying like a little girl at the end you wouldn’t of thought so  | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:25 - Dec 10 with 1325 views | bennytheblue |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:08 - Dec 10 by NotLoyal |
Not at all, Phil left to set up his own thing, best mates with the site owner here. So, after a lot of encouragement Keith took over the site, it’s flying. People are enjoying it, and if they don’t they can go elsewhere. Better to have fifteen thousand happy clicks than and extra twenty thousand troublesome idiots. The real problems have left or been banned. |
Crikey, does that mean your a moderator then? I best be on me best behaviour 
I thought Phil owned/ran the old site anyway? I’m not sure they agree on the other site about what you think of this one mind.
Anyway, all the best with it loyal....  | | | |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 11:33 - Dec 10 with 1323 views | CCFCTOM |
| Cardiff City v Swansea City : Official Matchday Thread on 10:48 - Dec 10 by Chief |
Fair play to you. Rattled enough to research the Liverpool side in a midweek league cup game all those years ago. Some would say obsessed . We weren't full strength ourselves&they still had the likes of Suarez playing but we comfortably won. But you know this seeing as you've researched our cup run.
Was the league cup mickey mouse when you lost your final then? Give over - it would have been the greatest achievement in footballing history if you'd won it! |
Rattled? Hardly fella... I remember watching both games against Lpool and Chelsea... I remember your tart of a ball boy as well The side lpool had was shocking so I wasn't surprised you beat them in all honesty. It's always been a mickey mouse cup and even if we had won it then it'd still fall short of having an FA Cup in the cabinet  I'd consider winning the championship a bigger achievement in all honesty. | | | |
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