| German Football 21:55 - Apr 1 with 1449 views | Landshark |
Armenia Bielefeld just beat Bayern Leverkusen in the Semi final of the German equivalent of the FA Cup to reach the final.
Bielefeld are a 3rd division team, Leverkusen are the reigning league and Cup champions.
They beat 4 Bundesliga teams on the way to the final.
Fairytale stuff. |  | | |  |
| German Football on 22:21 - Apr 1 with 1242 views | numptydumpty |
We need the data stats on them and then we can justify spending £12 million on their central defender, central midfielder and centre forward then....
Sounds like a plan....
All those in favour, say 'aye' ...
What could go wrong with such a strategy.... [Post edited 1 Apr 22:22]
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| German Football on 22:46 - Apr 1 with 1205 views | rbee |
It was always going to be difficult for Bayern Leverkusen to repeat last seasons feats.
With a little more consistency they would still be in contention for the league as Bayern Munich have been stuttering lately.
Stuttgart also way off from last seasons Champions League qualification. |  | | |
| German Football on 22:46 - Apr 1 with 1205 views | MrSheen |
All I know about them is that their name comes from the chieftain who destroyed the Emperor Augustus’s legions, not the country. Arminia not Armenia. [Post edited 1 Apr 22:53]
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| German Football on 00:47 - Apr 2 with 1106 views | DannyPaddox |
Fantastich stuff and herzlichen Glückwunsch to Armenia Bielefeld.
Btw: its not ‘Bayern’ Leverkusen it’s BAYER Leverkusen. Bayer - the pharmaceutical company. You could say they’re the works team of the drugs company that experimented on Jews in the Nazi concentration camps. Not my favourite German football team funnily enough. |  | | |
| German Football on 04:58 - Apr 2 with 984 views | PlanetHonneywood |
You just know if we signed everyone from AB, we'd still get knocked out in the third round of the FA Cup next season after an abject display against some lowly outfit. |  |
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| German Football on 08:16 - Apr 2 with 851 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 00:47 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
Fantastich stuff and herzlichen Glückwunsch to Armenia Bielefeld.
Btw: its not ‘Bayern’ Leverkusen it’s BAYER Leverkusen. Bayer - the pharmaceutical company. You could say they’re the works team of the drugs company that experimented on Jews in the Nazi concentration camps. Not my favourite German football team funnily enough. |
Not sure the company today is the same as the one from 80 years ago. By the same context i guess VW, Chanel, Siemens, BMW, Daimler, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Opel, Henschel, Lufthansa AEG, Allianz, Audi, BASF and many more are disliked too?
On a slight aside, the paint & ink company where I had my first job was originally formed just after the war as a result of people in the UK not wanting to do business with German companies.
Anyways, well done Arminia Bielefeld. To beat not just one but four top tier teams is fantastic. I hope they win it. |  | | |
| German Football on 09:20 - Apr 2 with 770 views | enfieldargh |
| German Football on 08:16 - Apr 2 by Juzzie |
Not sure the company today is the same as the one from 80 years ago. By the same context i guess VW, Chanel, Siemens, BMW, Daimler, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Opel, Henschel, Lufthansa AEG, Allianz, Audi, BASF and many more are disliked too?
On a slight aside, the paint & ink company where I had my first job was originally formed just after the war as a result of people in the UK not wanting to do business with German companies.
Anyways, well done Arminia Bielefeld. To beat not just one but four top tier teams is fantastic. I hope they win it. |
AB were relegated from Bundesliga 2021/22, dropped straight thru BL2 into 3 Liga where they are desperayely trying to feck up promotion having led the division early doors and are now 4th, 5 pts off 2nd auto spot & level pegging the mighty Saarbrucken for the play off spot.
Stuttgart or Leipzig in the final so no Bayern and every chance of winning it |  |
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| German Football on 09:34 - Apr 2 with 746 views | eastside_r |
| German Football on 08:16 - Apr 2 by Juzzie |
Not sure the company today is the same as the one from 80 years ago. By the same context i guess VW, Chanel, Siemens, BMW, Daimler, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Opel, Henschel, Lufthansa AEG, Allianz, Audi, BASF and many more are disliked too?
On a slight aside, the paint & ink company where I had my first job was originally formed just after the war as a result of people in the UK not wanting to do business with German companies.
Anyways, well done Arminia Bielefeld. To beat not just one but four top tier teams is fantastic. I hope they win it. |
You make a good point re those other companies.
Bayer also responsible for Alka Seltzer, which I surmise is a popular product with LFWers. [Post edited 2 Apr 9:41]
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| German Football on 09:40 - Apr 2 with 740 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 09:34 - Apr 2 by eastside_r |
You make a good point re those other companies.
Bayer also responsible for Alka Seltzer, which I surmise is a popular product with LFWers. [Post edited 2 Apr 9:41]
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This is a pretty comprehensive list containing many household names;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_involved_in_the_Holocaust
Any way, lets move away from Godwin's Law and focus on the "1967 QPR" of today! | | | |
| German Football on 10:14 - Apr 2 with 667 views | TheChef |
Also a few German clubs have numbers in their names - only realised recently these usually refer to the last two digits of the year they were founded.
e.g. Bayer 04 Leverkusen (founded 1904) |  |
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| German Football on 10:18 - Apr 2 with 666 views | MrSheen |
| German Football on 00:47 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
Fantastich stuff and herzlichen Glückwunsch to Armenia Bielefeld.
Btw: its not ‘Bayern’ Leverkusen it’s BAYER Leverkusen. Bayer - the pharmaceutical company. You could say they’re the works team of the drugs company that experimented on Jews in the Nazi concentration camps. Not my favourite German football team funnily enough. |
There used to be two Bayer-supported clubs. Hard times meant Bayer Uerdingen got the chop in 1995, becoming KFC Uerdingen despite no connection with the Colonel. Dropped out of the Bundesliga for the final time the next season and now play at the fourth level in a 35,000 seat stadium, a sad predicament for the FOUR-time Intertoto Cup champions. | | | |
| German Football on 10:29 - Apr 2 with 623 views | enfieldargh |
| German Football on 10:14 - Apr 2 by TheChef |
Also a few German clubs have numbers in their names - only realised recently these usually refer to the last two digits of the year they were founded.
e.g. Bayer 04 Leverkusen (founded 1904) |
QPR 05
games since we won away? | |
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| German Football on 10:42 - Apr 2 with 587 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 10:14 - Apr 2 by TheChef |
Also a few German clubs have numbers in their names - only realised recently these usually refer to the last two digits of the year they were founded.
e.g. Bayer 04 Leverkusen (founded 1904) |
Chelsea 03 - as in 2003 when Roman created them. | | | |
| German Football on 10:44 - Apr 2 with 577 views | GaryHaddock |
Great thread this!
On my 12th German / Austrian / Swiss / Liechtensteiner fixture now.
Latest was Altonaer last November and these beauties:
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| German Football on 10:46 - Apr 2 with 565 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 10:18 - Apr 2 by MrSheen |
There used to be two Bayer-supported clubs. Hard times meant Bayer Uerdingen got the chop in 1995, becoming KFC Uerdingen despite no connection with the Colonel. Dropped out of the Bundesliga for the final time the next season and now play at the fourth level in a 35,000 seat stadium, a sad predicament for the FOUR-time Intertoto Cup champions. |
After our own League's I find the German leagues more interesting, just a tad more than Italy, than the other European countries. Though I'm sure the likes of Spain, France, Netherlands, Poland etc all too have colourful history's. | | | |
| German Football on 10:53 - Apr 2 with 548 views | DannyPaddox |
I may have said nowt about Bayer but the first two posts both refer to Bayern instead of Bayer. An easy mistake to make for sure but one which led me to point out the difference. This is not Godwin’s Law.
I also get the complexities of history; there were many companies operating in Germany during and after the Nazi era. That’s the nature of society and economics and war and it’s important to move on. But what gets me with Bayer is one of their chiefs Fritz Van Der Meer who was found guilty of planning the Nazi experiments - injecting people with chronic illnesses so they could test drugs - that sort of thing - was found guilty and given seven years as a result of the Nuremberg trials. As soon as he was out he was put straight back on the Bayer supervisory panel. Collective guilt my arse. The past is never dead etc.
Didn’t mean to sidetrack the thread - wonderful achievement by Armenia Bielefeld. More power to them. [Post edited 2 Apr 10:56]
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| German Football on 11:28 - Apr 2 with 480 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 10:53 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
I may have said nowt about Bayer but the first two posts both refer to Bayern instead of Bayer. An easy mistake to make for sure but one which led me to point out the difference. This is not Godwin’s Law.
I also get the complexities of history; there were many companies operating in Germany during and after the Nazi era. That’s the nature of society and economics and war and it’s important to move on. But what gets me with Bayer is one of their chiefs Fritz Van Der Meer who was found guilty of planning the Nazi experiments - injecting people with chronic illnesses so they could test drugs - that sort of thing - was found guilty and given seven years as a result of the Nuremberg trials. As soon as he was out he was put straight back on the Bayer supervisory panel. Collective guilt my arse. The past is never dead etc.
Didn’t mean to sidetrack the thread - wonderful achievement by Armenia Bielefeld. More power to them. [Post edited 2 Apr 10:56]
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Pointing out the difference between 'Bayer' and 'Bayern' is fine, in the same way Atletico Madrid constantly get called 'Athletico Madrid' but the Bayer chemical company's past history wasn't really relevant however awful it was at the time and there were lots of other companies that had very high level involvement, predominantly inhumane forced labour.
I've been to Auschwitz and you come out shaking with rage as to how people were treated. | | | |
| German Football on 11:52 - Apr 2 with 429 views | DannyPaddox |
| German Football on 11:28 - Apr 2 by Juzzie |
Pointing out the difference between 'Bayer' and 'Bayern' is fine, in the same way Atletico Madrid constantly get called 'Athletico Madrid' but the Bayer chemical company's past history wasn't really relevant however awful it was at the time and there were lots of other companies that had very high level involvement, predominantly inhumane forced labour.
I've been to Auschwitz and you come out shaking with rage as to how people were treated. |
Respect to you for your knowledge and visiting that place. I just think that Bayer’s past is still relevant now and always will be. | | | |
| German Football on 12:00 - Apr 2 with 411 views | Clive_Anderson |
German football is great, good fan culture, terracing, beer at football, massive crowds and great atmosphere.
Then Bayern Munich win the league 90% of the time  | | | |
| German Football on 12:04 - Apr 2 with 404 views | GaryHaddock |
Sorry if this is already known, but the word Bayern just means Bavaria which is a german state or 'Länder'.
An equivalent to FC Bayern Munchen would be FC Devon Plymouth or FC Hampshire Portsmouth. | | | |
| German Football on 12:13 - Apr 2 with 359 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 11:52 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
Respect to you for your knowledge and visiting that place. I just think that Bayer’s past is still relevant now and always will be. |
It is relevant to its own history as a company but just not in the context of getting names mixed up with a football team. That's my point. The post could just have said;
"Fantastich stuff and herzlichen Glückwunsch to Armenia Bielefeld.
Btw: its not ‘Bayern’ Leverkusen it’s BAYER Leverkusen. Bayer - the pharmaceutical company."
It could have stopped there, Bayer's involvement in WWII is not relevant to this thread.
Anyways, I guess lets agree to disagree. I won't say any more.
(p.s the irony is not missed that 'Armenia', a country, was used rather than 'Arminia' ;) )
Peace :) | | | |
| German Football on 12:36 - Apr 2 with 319 views | DannyPaddox |
| German Football on 12:13 - Apr 2 by Juzzie |
It is relevant to its own history as a company but just not in the context of getting names mixed up with a football team. That's my point. The post could just have said;
"Fantastich stuff and herzlichen Glückwunsch to Armenia Bielefeld.
Btw: its not ‘Bayern’ Leverkusen it’s BAYER Leverkusen. Bayer - the pharmaceutical company."
It could have stopped there, Bayer's involvement in WWII is not relevant to this thread.
Anyways, I guess lets agree to disagree. I won't say any more.
(p.s the irony is not missed that 'Armenia', a country, was used rather than 'Arminia' ;) )
Peace :) |
Don’t tell me how to write my fcuking posts
Peace : ) | | | |
| German Football on 12:37 - Apr 2 with 315 views | Juzzie |
| German Football on 12:36 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
Don’t tell me how to write my fcuking posts
Peace : ) |
That wasn't the intention, sorry, but can see how it came across. | | | |
| German Football on 15:13 - Apr 2 with 100 views | Lblock |
| German Football on 10:44 - Apr 2 by GaryHaddock |
Great thread this!
On my 12th German / Austrian / Swiss / Liechtensteiner fixture now.
Latest was Altonaer last November and these beauties:
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Liechtensteiner?
That sounds like a bastard merger of an old centre back and striker of ours. |  |
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| German Football on 15:17 - Apr 2 with 88 views | Lblock |
| German Football on 11:52 - Apr 2 by DannyPaddox |
Respect to you for your knowledge and visiting that place. I just think that Bayer’s past is still relevant now and always will be. |
I have personal experience of BAYER
Did a project with them in their offices in Green Park, Reading.
I can confirm that most of them would have Stefan Kuntz down as their favourite German player as he's named after most of them (and there's not a lot of them called Stefan in that office)
I totally realise this may upset a lot of the fragile PC brigade on here but.....
We did amuse ourselves in meetings where there were design issues to be ironed out in seeing how many times we could crowbar in "do we have a final solution?" to the convos. [Post edited 2 Apr 15:24]
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