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Reply | Oldham
at 19:52 29 Mar 2025
Williamson returning would remain our biggest worry. |
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Reply | Race for the playoffs
at 19:51 29 Mar 2025
A wise man told be 70 points may be enough. I was thinking a couple more. He could be right though. [Post edited 29 Mar 19:52]
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Thread | Race for the playoffs
at 19:30 29 Mar 2025
Seven teams going for four spots now. Shame Oldham didn’t get a point at Southend, keeping a three point gap between Dale and those outside the top seven.
Currently:
Oldham 66
Halifax 63
Dale 60
Gateshead 60
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Southend 59
Altrincham 57
Tamworth 57
All teams have played 40 games, apart from us who have two in hand. With 4th/5th being the sides getting a home tie in the playoffs, those slots are now up for grabs as well all of a sudden.
Of particular interest looking at the fixtures, the final day has Gateshead v Southend and Altrincham v Tamworth. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v Aldershot Town
at 18:34 29 Mar 2025
Only just had a look at their recent form - 7 wins and 2 draws in the league/Trophy since their last defeat.
Thought they were really poor, especially at the back with central defenders who couldn’t cope with any sort of movement. Football eh?! |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v Aldershot Town
at 17:16 29 Mar 2025
Agreed. Still irritates he was left out after Oldham and then not even in the squad for the last two. Unfortunately he was limping at the end too, added to Barlow who was obviously struggling and Hogan/Beckwith with potential issues it’s been an awful day for injuries.
The performance though, like quite a few home games this season, was really good. Henderson and Rodney in a forward line always seems to work well, Henderson’s movement alone should see him want to stay for another year. He’s actually getting better and seems to enjoy it more than ever.
We can but hope that the injury news isn’t as bad as it may appear but mention for Kingdon and EEL who both came on and did well. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v Aldershot Town
at 08:34 29 Mar 2025
That we’re at a stage of the season where potential success on two fronts is achievable is somewhat of a first and, at the same time, we all totally understand the problems at the club right now, nobody can deny those.
It’s beyond baffling that anyone would want their fellow supporters to miss out on celebrating that success, including a once in a lifetime cup winning experience, just so they can get what they’d prefer or to be somehow be proven right.
It’s all a bit sad, we are better than this as Dale fans. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 21:38 27 Mar 2025
Yeah, but TVOS posted earlier in the thread, breaking down the games to illustrate that we didn’t go down in the manner described. |
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Reply | Would you take out of the cup & play offs if it meant McNulty being sacked?
at 20:53 26 Mar 2025
Being fair, some will post with positivity, recognising where things are better than after a defeat.
Whether there’s any consistency in those posts, irrespective of scorelines, is a whole different conversation. It’s respecting that people will have their own feelings about the manager, so it’s not wrong to have them as it’ll have been the same with any manager.
Mine, along with trying to stay balanced in victory and defeat, are that his shortcomings will continue to outweigh his potential whilst he remains seemingly restricted with his team formation and squad utilisation and construction. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 23:41 25 Mar 2025
So it’s all about division?
Boston were, on witnessing them last week, a much better team than Doncaster in 97/98 when we had Barrow in charge. We have a much better team now than the one Barrow assembled too.
York, having seen them twice this season, are a much better footballing side than the Macclesfield team that won promotion not losing a home game during that campaign.
Gilmour and East in midfield may have limitations because of how their manager employs them every week but they’re infinitely better than one containing Sean McClare.
It’s revisionist history on the back of an awful display. It wasn’t the message portrayed on the back of good displays because it wasn’t the case then and it isn’t now. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 23:09 25 Mar 2025
How was Eyre better? Or Buckley? Or Bentley?
Were Maidenhead and Boston worse than some of the dross we’ve faced down the years? Or is it all about the division they’re in? Boston looked a good side last week and beat a resurgent Southend tonight. York have spent decent money and look a really good team. Signing Stones made them weaker it seems. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 22:56 25 Mar 2025
That’s an argument I’m fully on board with. It’s all about perception and not totally convinced which way it will go.
Taking a look on here as a barometer (not necessarily the best!) after those wins, those who have been most critical were praiseworthy and hopeful of consistent positive change. Imagine (!) if we win the next two in the league and then the cup semi, the euphoria of Wembley and a play off spot would, history shows us, see a similar swing again.
Now I really believe some fans will be entrenched in their view now, which is their prerogative of course and those ST sales could be impacted by all the shortcomings we’ve all gone through and agree on. But in your scenario we could also gain fans from a trip to Wembley and a playoff campaign.
Newer, prospective fans ain’t going to be put off by those home games which have been dull over this campaign… because they probably won’t have seen them! It’s the regulars affected right now. Nuanced is exactly the word though! |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 22:44 25 Mar 2025
But he wasn’t the worst on here after the wins recently! There’s no disputing how some of his decisions have been consistently poor, but he’s recruited some good players and overseen some good displays during one of the most difficult periods in the clubs history. By no measuring stick, outside of personal opinion, does he fit the worst.
See above for how he’s failing, but he isn’t as bad a manager as Barrow and Bentley for starters when it comes to sending out teams who were absolutely awful to watch. Then there’s Alan Buckley who created a feeling of apathy amongst fans and seemingly his own team. Steve Eyre not as bad as McNulty? Nope, not in my book.
This terrible level isn’t any worse than some of what we faced under those managers either. The 96-99 period in bottom division was full of a lot of rubbish. [Post edited 25 Mar 22:47]
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 22:33 25 Mar 2025
After about 20 minutes York realised that should they utilise their obvious ability and interchange positions, we’d have no answer.
Why? Because we are so obsessed with a formation that offer no tactical challenges to an opposition who are prepared to ignore it. Our midfielders can’t interchange, because we only have two. The one most capable of playing across different areas, Burger, back to being out of the squad. It is becoming a running joke that we’ve never even tried a midfield three this season, and other teams don’t even have to think about how we might line up.
Style of play, centre forwards who change the whole look of the team, comprehensive wins against teams who can’t deal with how we set up mean little if we have no answers to those who can because the manager appears unwilling to be creative tactically (bar those two instances late in games against Tamworth and Boston.)
The recruitment has compounded this, again on McNulty’s choices when we’ve not even looked to replace Henry and virtually ignored the only other player to play in midfield outside Gilmour and East.
A few weeks ago we had a cup match on the horizon and a run of league games which, if had gone badly, would have seen the manager being in big trouble. No matter what we all might think, as it was then the phrase “results business” will be the only measure that counts.
When you continue along a much worn path of predictability it probably won’t end well. Infuriating. |
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Reply | TVOS Preview - Rochdale v York City
at 21:08 25 Mar 2025
Spot on.
Felix is running them all into the ground. After the first 20 mins, they’ve been visibly superior all over the pitch.
Tonight ain’t about how managers choose to play football as they’re much the same with how they play at the back, but simply about how our manager remains so restricted to formation and some individuals. |
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Reply | Paul Tait...
at 17:45 25 Mar 2025
Alex Russell and Jason Peake ran the show. Ironically a partnership broken up in that Scarborough game when Shaun Reid returned as a sub in a 4-2 fight back win. |
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Reply | Paul Tait...
at 17:32 25 Mar 2025
Stockport had two at the time, one was a full back. Williams the striker came to us on loan scored two great goals v Bury and Crewe and there was a clamour to sign him permanently.
Once we did he was awful, bar a good goal at Scarborough and as a keeper at Blackpool in the Autowindcsreens. |
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Reply | Refwatch - Maidenhead United v Rochdale
at 17:14 25 Mar 2025
Well there aren’t many on here who haven’t said how they feel and their opinions on this season. As James pointed out though, there’s far more reaction to a defeat/bad result than a good win. Though that’s often been the case with football fans.
The biggest thing for me this season is the frustration of not making the most of what we have. It’s a total guess but I’d wager many of us feel like that. The manager has been able to control that and he’s fallen short in quite a few aspects as well as progressing in others. |
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Reply | Refwatch - Maidenhead United v Rochdale
at 15:37 25 Mar 2025
Agreed on that one too. He could point to the home record as being so much better and amongst the best in the division. But in reality we haven’t played well in quite a few of those games.
On the flip side, and where any detractors would be wrong, is that it’s impossible to claim that we’ve not played well and seen some decent games at Spotland this season. A percentage that’s much more than recent years and on a par with what Dale fans normally will have witnessed if they’ve been watching a long time.
On the booing, and I genuinely don’t know as I wasn’t there after the whistle went against Barnet, apart from that when have there been a significant amount of fans booing? There’s been a significant amount applauding them off recently too!
And I only know that because of the Twitter stuff because I sod off at full time! [Post edited 25 Mar 15:42]
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Reply | Refwatch - Maidenhead United v Rochdale
at 15:32 25 Mar 2025
That’s what I was saying, opinions and debate are great but the point I was specifically made was when an opinion contains a totally incorrect factual occurrence, that when this is pointed out it is subsequently ignored. |
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