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Reply | Celar €1.5 million
at 13:05 17 Jul 2026
I don’t know how many times I can say that this is good news and a good for the club as it should enable us to sign a new player on a free who can be a starter/in the first team squad.
I just do not believe it’s a £1.5m fee plus his wages off the book. The accounts, in about 18 months, will give us a very good indication. I’d wager very strongly it’s just his salary off the books.
BUT THAT IS A GOOD THING.
We will still need to sell for some serious money in the next 10 months though. |
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Reply | Celar €1.5 million
at 11:54 17 Jul 2026
What? €14k per week or £12.5k per week? Seems pretty bang on what his salary would have been given his profile and what we paid for him. |
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Reply | Celar €1.5 million
at 11:30 17 Jul 2026
Well, obviously the last paragraph is conditional on the prior ones in the same post.
As I said, wait for the accounts. The fees quoted for Armstrong and Dykes were not correct. That social media journo is a well known shill. Clubs pay him to say what they want him to say. He’s a narrative machine.
As others have said, it’s commonplace for clubs to take on players contracts which in itself is a deal worth X because the selling club is no longer obligated to pay any player’s remaining contract, but it doesn’t involve an additional up front fee (unless it is to pay up the existing contract before agreeing a new salary with that player).
This number, Frey’s, they are just remarkable close to being a reasonable proportion of what those players would have cost in salary for their outstanding contract term.
As Nix said, this is still all great news. It means we can reinvest in another first team player signed on a free. That’s great. It’ll strengthen the team. And fair play to Nourry for finding a taker and getting a deal done. Far far better than Celar stinking the place out. I am very positive about this. It’s more than I thought we’d get.
But don’t think this solves the player trading model requirements. It doesn’t. Getting out of deals even with a true additional selling fee of the amount you paid, half way through a 4 year deal, would mean only half of that can be booked as net income, because you have to bring forward two years of amortised transfer cost. And that net income doesn’t remotely cover what we need to be bringing in to cover the total amount of transfer spend already committed to this year under the amortisation model. My guestimate is we need to bring in £6m per season this season and next simply to cover what we already have to book as transfer costs before we generate any extra net income to help with PSR or enable more funds to be spent. |
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Reply | Celar €1.5 million
at 09:22 17 Jul 2026
Let’s wait and see until the accounts. They proved we did not get £2.5m for Armstrong (even if 25% went to Shamrock) and £1m for Dykes. It was £1.8m up front rising to £2.2m in total for the two of them. I’d be wary believing any numbers promoted on social media accounts.
That said, without wanting to go over old ground, I can see how a deal “worth £1.5m to QPR” is true. That looks about right for what he would have earnt in salary over 2 years. He was likely on a 4 year deal given our amortisation approach. Therefore, quite likely we’ve given him to someone for free to get his wages off the books, saving us around £1.5m versus what we were committed to take as cost if he stayed here for the next two seasons.
So they’ve done a good job to find a taker, even if the transfer fee we paid for him has proved to be a waste. Frees up some salary to sign someone on a free this summer and improve the squad. Doesn’t help with the player trading/amortisation model, as half what we paid for him will now be incurred as a cost in this financial season. |
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Reply | England Thread 🏴
at 23:05 15 Jul 2026
It was a tactical f*ck up from Tuchel. There is no other narrative.
2 midfielders and defender off for 3 defenders. A tired Kane, Bellingham, and Rogers dropping into midfielder with an exhausted Anderson. O’Neill as an auxiliary left back, Konsa, who had been a first choice CB, at RB in a back 5. We were in a 550 shape with 6 defenders on the pitch trying to see out the game. No out ball. No pace. No one able to get us up the pitch or keep us there. Two subs left unmade.
Argentina offered so little before we went 1 up.
Just keep your shape. Keep the ball. Keep trying to play.
Tuchel changed that with his subs. Not the players. They react to the message those subs change. It’s on him.
And what’s more annoying is you could see the changes weren’t working in time. And he didn’t react to that either. The goals were coming. |
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Reply | England Thread 🏴
at 12:07 14 Jul 2026
Agree. Due a defeat and we are the better team. Could have done with a ref more familiar and wise to the dark arts. A Northern European ref would have been best. However, a US ref might not buy the play acting. |
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 12:09 11 Jul 2026
Ah, we’re at the point of the season where the youth are the answer to our prayers.
What have you seen of him other than his 1 appearance for the first team?
He’s a 19 year old who’s made 16 appearances at adult level in professional football. I hope Stephan takes a good look at him too this pre season. It would be great if he turned out to be really good. But I’m not sure there’s anything yet to suggest he’ll be a first team squad player in the Championship this season. At this stage last summer, this is what people were saying about Alfie Tuck.
Also, it might be prudent to manage expectations with some of our young players for their sakes and ours. |
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 10:42 11 Jul 2026
Agree. It would leave us light, but this is a player trading model. At some point we have to start selling players we have spent some of the £25m on under this regime for more than they cost, rather than just players who were here from before them. That’s a player trading model. That is theoretically how we meet PSR and become more and more competitive.
Hoping this is just a negotiation tactic to get the price up.
You’d then think we’d probably need to sign at least 2, if not 3 central midfielders for the season ahead. |
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Reply | Squad for Austria
at 11:29 10 Jul 2026
“IF” he’s been left behind after being assessed by the Head Coach.
I know it’s what the club have written, but not everything the club says is 100% truthful.
And if there has been as assessment done with the Head Coach involved, it may not be related to his fitness… |
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Reply | Squad for Austria
at 10:16 10 Jul 2026
I mean, it may be that. Or it may not be that.
Perhaps he’s being sold?
Perhaps there has been an argument behind the scenes?
Perhaps they want to sell him and he doesn’t want to leave so the old “train with kids” line is being taken?
Perhaps he has picked up an injury he needs to work on, which would have kept him out of the games on tour?
You don’t know… |
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Reply | Squad for Austria
at 08:57 10 Jul 2026
So disappointing.
IF he is not fit, then that is so poor from him.
IF the head coach doesn’t fancy him, why is Nourry not stepping in and telling the Head Coach that in player trading model a 20yr old with his goals to games ratio is a valuable asset to us. It’s not much of a burden to take him. This is the whole point of having a Head Coach not Manager and a DOF model.
IF he is being sold, fair enough, we need to sell, let’s hope it’s for a decent amount.
The club talks about player pathways, youth development, and player trading. Here is a lad who has come through the youth set up and had more impact in the first time from that route than anyone since Chair…it just seems very odd how we’ve treated him, even if he and his family are a bit difficult. |
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Reply | Squad for Austria
at 18:40 9 Jul 2026
Were Kolli and Santos injured at the end of last season? I get Dembele and Larkeche not going, they had horrible injuries to recover from. Seems a bit odd, or pointed.
On the plus side, good to see Obikwu fit and in the fold. And two proper keepers going (even if one is redacted).
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 17:14 9 Jul 2026
Selling shouldn’t get anyone raging. It’s the model. It’s a necessity to sell, especially with the new PSR rules! |
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 16:34 9 Jul 2026
I think we’ll finish top 10. Why not?
You haven’t understand where I’m coming from at all. I’m a ST holder of over 30 years. I want us to be good. |
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 13:18 9 Jul 2026
Jeez. I feel like I’m talking a foreign language.
Said it would be sub-optimal to go on the pre-season tour without any keepers. Club clearly agree because they have acted and signed two just in time. Great. Well done. Does not make the original point wrong though. In fact, it suggests strongly the club share that view (because it’s common sense).
Criticised the club for not telling us about Walsh even after he was pictured at a fun run in Wigan with their squad. I stand by that. It was poor. They have now communicated it, before they have confirmed any signings themselves. I don’t think we should normalise not being informed about coming and goings when they happen.
As I have repeatedly said, I didn’t rate Walsh. Glad to change the keeper pool up. These two seem decent additions. Well done the club.
One can think all those things. It’s not unreasonable. More than one thing can be true at once. My whole original point was merely saying it would be sub-optimal to go on tour and into pre season with no keepers. It doesn’t need people having a pop at people for making any of those points above. I had no issue with the club letting Walsh go (loan or perm). There is some nuance here being deliberately ignored, which is annoying. |
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Reply | Summer transfer rumours 2026
at 12:30 9 Jul 2026
If they both sign and can head off with the squad to Austria, that’s great news. That solves what I was concerned about. It makes the tour and pre-season so much more effective. Good the club also saw that and want to maximise the pre-season so we can start strong, and not wait until after the season to do our business. Encouraging. Indicates the club have high hopes for this season.
Seems a little odd to sign Ward for £800k as a back up (Pierre Charles surely isn’t coming on loan to sit on the bench!). But if we got £500k for Cooper, then it’s not a huge net outlay. Presumably he’s signed on the promise he’ll be the number 1 next season…and that is good planning if that is the case. |
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Reply | Stephan: new deal
at 09:49 9 Jul 2026
Exactly. And the club would then (rightly) be criticised for incompetence. They had to extend him. I would guess they’ve done it by 12 months, which works for all parties. And I’m sure they have baked into the budget 18 months of manager severance every season as a cost, so if they do fire him the cost is budgeted for already. If that doesn’t occur, high fives all around and you release that cost into the P&L to offset losses or sign someone. |
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