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Ipswich
at 14:07 3 May 2024

I think if Saksena was really up to much, another club might've given him a go? In reality, he was always just Amit's mate, there to keep an eye on things.

Nourry does seem a bit more than your average Football CEO - But I still think turning around the culture that has infested QPR over the last decade is potentially too big a job for a 26-year-old first-time football CEO. Maybe I'm wrong, I hope I am.
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Ipswich
at 13:42 3 May 2024

Alejandro Agag. Ali Russell. Ishan Saksena. Phil Beard. Lee Hoos. We've been down this road several times before.
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National league
at 12:51 3 May 2024

I believe he went on trial with a Prem League club while with us......But got sent home after being caught trying to arrange an orgy with local women on Tinder
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Odd fact but it does pose a good question....
at 12:45 3 May 2024

Most of my Palace mates gave up a while ago, 17/18ish. Just not much fun following a Premier League team for a legacy football fan. I'm sure it's a feature, rather than a bug.
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Ipswich
at 12:37 3 May 2024

The manager isn't the problem at QPR though. Apart from the start of the season under Ainsworth, I don't think our problem has been the manager for a long time.

We're all scared to criticize the ownership because everyone accepts that we quickly sink/die without them. But surely there is no one else left to blame at this point. And relying on benevolent owners to pay the players is always going to become a bad idea at some stage. We need to find another way.

If that means we cannot compete in the championship in the near future, if we no longer have owners willing to lose a million a month maintaining our Championship place, I'd now rather we just get on with that process of becoming a self-sustainable club. It's the post-FFP world, overpaying players (which we do a lot of) is suicide.
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Ipswich
at 17:26 2 May 2024

Yeah, massively. But I think a big part of not becoming Bury is not becoming stagnant. We've become stagnant IMO.

Ipswich were us not long ago, spending more than they could afford, losses covered by a benevolent owner, but not going anywhere. Marcus Evans finally sells up, new owners come in and now look at it.
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Ipswich
at 17:00 2 May 2024

Did we have the brains and ability last time? Think if you'd asked most people at the time, the answer would've been no.

Even Charlton (with their mad, seemingly never-ending ownership problem) will be back in the next 5 years.
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Ipswich
at 15:40 2 May 2024

Disagree. All these clubs got themselves into a terrible mess chasing promotion from the Championship. Sheff Utd paying James Beattie 40k a week and hiring Bryan Robson started the rot (Which lasted ages tbf, they were on their arse for about 8 years) - Then within 3 seasons they're finishing 11th in the Prem
Wolves had that whole Sylvan Ebanks-Blake/Andy Keogh/Seyi Olofinjana team under Mick Mccarthy that all went pear-shaped, had to go down and recalibrate, but then got promoted to the top quickly after that. Still there.
Southampton came down a bloated mess and it took another relegation to sort out, once they regained that reputation as a winning club, got successive promotions and another decade challenging for Europe. Back down now and if they piss away their parachute payments, might all happen again.
Norwich very similar. Bloated mess of a club around 2009. Relegated. One season in League 1 (including a 7-1 home defeat on opening day) and get successive promotions to the Prem.
Leicester spent years trying to get promoted with decent budgets under Holloway, Martin Allen et al. Didn't happen, was never going to happen, until they took a step back. Also had a big takeover.
Leeds needed their relegation more than most. Although probably the club that capitalized on it the least. But they were in a total mess. Also, if you speak to Leeds fans, those League 1 days with Beckford and Becchio, starting on -15, and winning everywhere was far more enjoyable than Prem with Bamford. Also had a big takeover
Forest is admittedly not the greatest example (Thought they'd been back down again when they haven't) - But they'll be back here soon and no doubt (If it turns out they've already spent their parachute payments) in need of another few years away from the limelight. Rejuvenation was also spearheaded by a mad takeover.

We're not being taken over any time soon. Debt too high, assets too small. Fulham and Brentford outperforming us. The QPR of today has lost its reputation as a place where you can win. Sure, it's still a football club in the Champ, not to be sniffed at, but any half-decent champ level players will choose most other championship clubs over QPR. This is partly due to the last decade of QPR failing to deliver anything other than wage cuts.....But also because we were such a shambles in the Premier league. The Pros of today remember those seasons and it's going to be another few years until that fully wears off. This is why I detest the players from the Prem days so much, because our predicament today is largely their fault, they set the standard at an abysmally low level, and we've now had almost a decade of QPR teams who think they are doing enough because they've managed to pick up a point or two before the October Intl break.

It's really, really important we post a couple of decent seasons in the near future, because the reputation we've got amongst professional footballers is a really bad one, and I'd say our best chance of doing that is going down and battering League 1 for a couple of seasons. After that? Who knows. I'm personally very confident we would not be another Yeovil.
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Ipswich
at 17:11 1 May 2024

Luton were still rattling around in the Conference the last time we were promoted to the Premier League. 6-8000 fans Luton. 5 years floundering in a league genuinely difficult to get out of - Playing Hayes & Yeading (Who've just been relegated to level 8) - Surely there was no coming back from that? For a club of that size? From such footballing graveyards? There wasn't, was there?

Or Coventry. Starting seasons in Administration. Battling for survival in League 2. Playing in Northampton in front of 2000 fans. Dead & buried. Until they weren't - and now they batter big teams in FA Cup Semi-Finals to the point the authorities had to step in to save poor old Man Utd from a humiliation.

Several clubs needed relegation before they got anywhere close to the Prem again - Wolves, Leicester, Leeds, Forest, Sheff U, Southampton, Norwich....All have been in League 1 since the last time we were. All enjoyed better stints at the top level than us, as well (Apart maybe from Norwich). Ipswich, Sunderland, Coventry the current Championship Clubs carrying that forward momentum. Pompey & Derby next year. In a league where increasingly Parachute payments & FFP are deciding the final league table, I just don't think sitting in the same division treading water, forever being regarded by every pro footballer in the country as an "also ran" is a great vision for the future.
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Away Kit - WISHLIST 2024/25 Season
at 13:47 1 May 2024

The high availability of Venezia kits implies they're more of a fashion brand than a football club. The club was acquired out of bankruptcy by some US attorney types in 2015, and then came the aggressive brand marketing. Fair play they've been back to Serie A since, but it's not exactly organic
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School. End Friday
at 15:56 29 Apr 2024

Guessing this'll be unpopular....but I prefer the lower tier full of away fans, along with the upper. Makes it even better when we win. This thing of trying to curtail away fans on the off chance it influences results against you.....Even clubs who move them into a Corner or along the side because "ooooh we cant have them creating an atmosphere behind the goal".......Pathetic.

If we're playing Preston or Stoke, and we've got the demand to open the Lower up to QPR fans.....Fine.....But I doubt that will be the case come August. If we've got a London derby, Leeds, Sheff Wed etc....Much prefer a packed house with 3 sides Home 1 Away.
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Away Kit - WISHLIST 2024/25 Season
at 15:42 29 Apr 2024

Wot, like this?


(Not an ITK......I just searched "QPR concept Kit" on Google Images. There are thousands, mostly knocked up by bored 15-year-olds in IT lessons)
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3 Little Birds
at 13:07 27 Apr 2024

"Though she isn't in the top ten, still she is on my chart"

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3 Little Birds
at 12:50 27 Apr 2024

How about "Top Ten" by Gregory Issacs? Probably a bit more applicable to the average QPR season....Three Little Birds is overdone (Ajax, Liverpool, Others) and has become a bit cringe IMO.
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New Kit Annoucment Due ??
at 15:54 25 Apr 2024

"Legacy Football for Legacy Fans" - Less Andrew Tate, more Terry Butcher - But yeah, you're at least shooting in the right direction.
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New Kit Annoucment Due ??
at 15:13 25 Apr 2024

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New Kit Annoucment Due ??
at 12:29 25 Apr 2024

A playful update on your QPR hoop. And more rainbowification that nobody asked for. Paired with a betting company that'll go bust by Christmas.

Crap.
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Chris Ramsey
at 17:05 24 Apr 2024

In today's episode of "Don't blame me! It Was Everyone Else's Fault"
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Leeds ticket threads
at 13:35 24 Apr 2024

More "See it. Say it. Be talked down to like you're a fcking imbecile" in my experience.
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New Kit Annoucment Due ??
at 12:49 24 Apr 2024

Yep. I don't like the current thing of releasing 2-3 whole new kits every year. I'm not a big fan of the football regulator idea, in fact, I think it's going to be a disaster, but one rule I would love to impose on clubs is that home kits should stay for a minimum 3 seasons and further kit launches (away/third/anniversary/special/cup final/whatever) limited to 1 per season. Kits are throwaway tat these days. They've lost meaning. Partly because they are increasingly only worn a handful of times by players who only play a handful of games before shuffling off to the dustbin. Also too much influence from fashion industry cnts and not enough fan votes as evidenced by recent Arsenal and Man U kits. The high price of football kits generally doesn't concern me, but the high quantity & availability does.

Not long before the clubs will be incentivizing people to cycle to games in order to "minimize our carbon footprint" (If that's not already a thing) - while simultaneously importing shipping containers full of some machine-manufactured, diaspora-themed, 4th choice away pre-warm-up shirts that nobody ever asked for.
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