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As a poster on both AVFTT sites and believing they both have merit I ask this question in good faith. This site is the self styled home of reasoned debate and openness. I am always interested in reading differing opinion and although I believe Karl's position is untenable I am aware a small minority still think he can or should continue as chairman of BFC I don't want a row but would be interested in the rationale behind such a viewpoint ? Seasons greetings and UTP