| This is how a leader should act. 20:43 - May 31 with 14712 views | peenemunde |
Well done president Trump, protecting the American steel industry.
Doing what he said he’d do, during election campaign.
A man of his word........  |  | | |  |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:19 - Jun 1 with 1677 views | Badlands |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:07 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
Almost all of the product exported from here to the US is specialty steel and falls outside of the aegis of what is being proposed.
It would have been, I’d guess, about two years ago I was one of thousands marching through Whitehall demanding that HM Government take exactly, exactly, the measures that Trump is supporting here. As we were making our way to the assembly point all the cabbies were beeping and giving the thumbs-up, members of the public were shouting good luck and as we passed The House itself it was thronged with young researchers who had left their offices to come and cheer.
If opponents of ’The Market’ as panacea are villains you have to wonder to what degree values have been inverted and just how much damage to the national psyche the Thatcher years have wrought? |
Was that when UKIP was blaming the proposed cutting of British Steel on the EU not allowing government intervention which was happening in Italy and Netherlands? A belief the Tories were happy to allow to play out as they would have happily seen steel in the UK go the way of coal.
When prices picked up TATA road in.
I thought the problem at that time was steel was so cheap our specialist output wasn't demand and our general production was uncompetitive.
I do recall that government programmes were allowing the import of cheap steel instead of demanding UK steel.
Everyone (other than some Tories and UKIP) wanted steel to be doing well in the UK and there were many options other than tariffs that were available.
The major difference for Trump is his USA is large enough to use the steel it produces in the USA Britain isn't; the EU might be and could be.
Trumps problems will become serious when new deals are brokered and no one trusts him. |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:21 - Jun 1 with 1673 views | Highjack |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:07 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
Almost all of the product exported from here to the US is specialty steel and falls outside of the aegis of what is being proposed.
It would have been, I’d guess, about two years ago I was one of thousands marching through Whitehall demanding that HM Government take exactly, exactly, the measures that Trump is supporting here. As we were making our way to the assembly point all the cabbies were beeping and giving the thumbs-up, members of the public were shouting good luck and as we passed The House itself it was thronged with young researchers who had left their offices to come and cheer.
If opponents of ’The Market’ as panacea are villains you have to wonder to what degree values have been inverted and just how much damage to the national psyche the Thatcher years have wrought? |
“ The markets” has almost become a new God. An omnipresent, untouchable force that will strike us all down with anger if we don’t treat it with the respect it deserves. If you vote a certain way it will hurt “the markets” and “the markets” will therefore hurt you. We’ve even got “the markets” overriding general elections picking and choosing what governments are suitable in nation states.
And the most ridiculous thing? The people most vociferous in their support of appeasing “The markets” are those who claim to be anti thatcher, anti capitalist socialists.
It’s all absolutely bonkers. |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:34 - Jun 1 with 1647 views | Lohengrin |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:19 - Jun 1 by Badlands |
Was that when UKIP was blaming the proposed cutting of British Steel on the EU not allowing government intervention which was happening in Italy and Netherlands? A belief the Tories were happy to allow to play out as they would have happily seen steel in the UK go the way of coal.
When prices picked up TATA road in.
I thought the problem at that time was steel was so cheap our specialist output wasn't demand and our general production was uncompetitive.
I do recall that government programmes were allowing the import of cheap steel instead of demanding UK steel.
Everyone (other than some Tories and UKIP) wanted steel to be doing well in the UK and there were many options other than tariffs that were available.
The major difference for Trump is his USA is large enough to use the steel it produces in the USA Britain isn't; the EU might be and could be.
Trumps problems will become serious when new deals are brokered and no one trusts him. |
I don’t know what the likely antonym for ‘kipper would be but if you hit on it that would be me. |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:34 - Jun 1 with 1647 views | Badlands |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:21 - Jun 1 by Highjack |
“ The markets” has almost become a new God. An omnipresent, untouchable force that will strike us all down with anger if we don’t treat it with the respect it deserves. If you vote a certain way it will hurt “the markets” and “the markets” will therefore hurt you. We’ve even got “the markets” overriding general elections picking and choosing what governments are suitable in nation states.
And the most ridiculous thing? The people most vociferous in their support of appeasing “The markets” are those who claim to be anti thatcher, anti capitalist socialists.
It’s all absolutely bonkers. |
anti thatcher, anti capitalist socialists aren't tree hugging luddites the right wing press would have us believe.
The markets have always been important for fair trade - even at a time when bartering was all the rage the cost of fresh eggs against fresh milk was important.
Unfortunately the thatcherites & anti capitalists use the markets to rig the prices rather than allow the value of products to guide them. | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:36 - Jun 1 with 1645 views | plasmarljack |
I've worked in the manufacturing industry for 42 years. Believe me this is a playing field that needs to leveled asap. And for those of you that think
normal everyday people in India and China are benefiting from this creation of wealth, then you are very wrong. At least we have a minimum wage law in this country. Some People can be so naive
to think
that protectionism is a game played by western companies only, shows they are desperately ill informed. I'd be interested to know how many of you are employed in the manufacturing industry. |  | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:37 - Jun 1 with 1643 views | Ebo |
| This is how a leader should act. on 23:52 - May 31 by londonlisa2001 |
Perish the thought you may learn something. |
Not enough pictures on there for him Lisa unfortunately. |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:47 - Jun 1 with 1628 views | londonlisa2001 |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:07 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
Almost all of the product exported from here to the US is specialty steel and falls outside of the aegis of what is being proposed.
It would have been, I’d guess, about two years ago I was one of thousands marching through Whitehall demanding that HM Government take exactly, exactly, the measures that Trump is supporting here. As we were making our way to the assembly point all the cabbies were beeping and giving the thumbs-up, members of the public were shouting good luck and as we passed The House itself it was thronged with young researchers who had left their offices to come and cheer.
If opponents of ’The Market’ as panacea are villains you have to wonder to what degree values have been inverted and just how much damage to the national psyche the Thatcher years have wrought? |
Sorry Loh, but that’s not true. The initial draft proposals had a mechanism by which a US company could apply for an exemption if it could not get the ‘right’ steel in the US.
But see this, this morning:
Britain’s steelmakers are beginning to feel the impact of the US imposing import duties, putting the struggling sector in danger of plunging back into crisis unless the EU breaks protocol and acts immediately, according to the industry body.
President Donald Trump announced on Thursday an immediate 25pc import duty on steel - and 10pc on aluminium - as he fulfilled a campaign pledge which he claimed would protect US industrial workers.
Prior to the levies being slapped on imports, trade body UK Steel had already received reports of members having orders from US customers delayed as they waited to see if Mr Trump would go ahead with the tariffs.
With the move confirmed, Gareth Stace, director of UK Steel said the full force of its introduction would soon be felt.
You could have a ship loaded with steel from the UK 30 miles of the US coast and as of 12.01am its cargo suddenly gets 25pc more expensive for customers,” he said. “Someone has to absorb that cost.”
He said that many of the trade body’s members - who employ 31,000 people in the UK between them - are looking at how they can deal with the tariffs.
“We’ve got members who have long-standing relationships with customers in the US who want to buy from them, Mr Stace said. “A lot of these products have long lead times and they aren’t made in the US.
“Companies are working out whether they can split the higher costs with their customers or absorb the tariff themselves - or face cancellations.”
The UK exports about 350,000 tonnes of steel to the US a year, about 7pc of Britain’s annual production.“
In addition, the other impact will be the steel from other countries flooding the market here as a result of US orders being cancelled.
Tata’s Share price has fallen by c.5%.i know that you may argue that’s the ‘market’ and can be ignored, but Tata won’t ignore that drop. Shareholders won’t permit them to.
As you will recall, the EU was stopped from imposing tariffs in Chinese steel by the UK exercising its veto (and then telling everyone that the EU wouldn’t introduce tariffs).
While we are still in the EU of course, thankfully we can reciprocate with tariffs on US products (as has happene) to force the issue. Outside the EU and as a much smaller market, the US won’t care anywhere near as much if we took that action in the future. There is rumour Trump is considering a tariff on EU cars in response.
The people that will suffer are ordinary consumers. It’s an economically stupid move. [Post edited 1 Jun 2018 13:50]
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| This is how a leader should act. on 13:50 - Jun 1 with 1617 views | Ebo |
On his agenda next week:
Thursday
12:00 Meeting David Beckham to discuss the denuclearisation of Iran
15:00 Agriculture and Fisheries meeting with Ozzy Osbourne
17:00 Visiting Fraggle Rock to discuss antisemitism in the media
Friday
10:00 Rail infrastructure meeting with the cast of Stranger Things
14:00 Opioid crisis summit with Jim Carrey and Tom Green
16:00 Stock market update from The Cookie Monster | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 14:08 - Jun 1 with 1603 views | Highjack |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:34 - Jun 1 by Badlands |
anti thatcher, anti capitalist socialists aren't tree hugging luddites the right wing press would have us believe.
The markets have always been important for fair trade - even at a time when bartering was all the rage the cost of fresh eggs against fresh milk was important.
Unfortunately the thatcherites & anti capitalists use the markets to rig the prices rather than allow the value of products to guide them. |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 14:31 - Jun 1 with 1583 views | wobbly |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:47 - Jun 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Sorry Loh, but that’s not true. The initial draft proposals had a mechanism by which a US company could apply for an exemption if it could not get the ‘right’ steel in the US.
But see this, this morning:
Britain’s steelmakers are beginning to feel the impact of the US imposing import duties, putting the struggling sector in danger of plunging back into crisis unless the EU breaks protocol and acts immediately, according to the industry body.
President Donald Trump announced on Thursday an immediate 25pc import duty on steel - and 10pc on aluminium - as he fulfilled a campaign pledge which he claimed would protect US industrial workers.
Prior to the levies being slapped on imports, trade body UK Steel had already received reports of members having orders from US customers delayed as they waited to see if Mr Trump would go ahead with the tariffs.
With the move confirmed, Gareth Stace, director of UK Steel said the full force of its introduction would soon be felt.
You could have a ship loaded with steel from the UK 30 miles of the US coast and as of 12.01am its cargo suddenly gets 25pc more expensive for customers,” he said. “Someone has to absorb that cost.”
He said that many of the trade body’s members - who employ 31,000 people in the UK between them - are looking at how they can deal with the tariffs.
“We’ve got members who have long-standing relationships with customers in the US who want to buy from them, Mr Stace said. “A lot of these products have long lead times and they aren’t made in the US.
“Companies are working out whether they can split the higher costs with their customers or absorb the tariff themselves - or face cancellations.”
The UK exports about 350,000 tonnes of steel to the US a year, about 7pc of Britain’s annual production.“
In addition, the other impact will be the steel from other countries flooding the market here as a result of US orders being cancelled.
Tata’s Share price has fallen by c.5%.i know that you may argue that’s the ‘market’ and can be ignored, but Tata won’t ignore that drop. Shareholders won’t permit them to.
As you will recall, the EU was stopped from imposing tariffs in Chinese steel by the UK exercising its veto (and then telling everyone that the EU wouldn’t introduce tariffs).
While we are still in the EU of course, thankfully we can reciprocate with tariffs on US products (as has happene) to force the issue. Outside the EU and as a much smaller market, the US won’t care anywhere near as much if we took that action in the future. There is rumour Trump is considering a tariff on EU cars in response.
The people that will suffer are ordinary consumers. It’s an economically stupid move. [Post edited 1 Jun 2018 13:50]
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You probably need to be a little more consistent in your thinking Lisa.
i expect that if you read some economics textbooks, the same economists who will agree with you that these tariffs are an economically stupid move, would argue in the next paragraph that customs unions are economically stupid as well. And that is the case whether you are a nation either inside or outside of them.
After all, both tariffs and customs unions are disincentives to the economic benefits of free trade.
And yet you are a fierce advocate of staying in the customs union.
I’m not sure how you can hold both positions so fiercely. From an economic perspective, anyway. |  | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 14:35 - Jun 1 with 1577 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
Good bless our friends the US of A.
Trump will use and abuse then spit us out |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 14:39 - Jun 1 with 1572 views | peenemunde |
| This is how a leader should act. on 14:35 - Jun 1 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Good bless our friends the US of A.
Trump will use and abuse then spit us out |
Evidence? | | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 15:09 - Jun 1 with 1547 views | Lohengrin |
| This is how a leader should act. on 13:47 - Jun 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Sorry Loh, but that’s not true. The initial draft proposals had a mechanism by which a US company could apply for an exemption if it could not get the ‘right’ steel in the US.
But see this, this morning:
Britain’s steelmakers are beginning to feel the impact of the US imposing import duties, putting the struggling sector in danger of plunging back into crisis unless the EU breaks protocol and acts immediately, according to the industry body.
President Donald Trump announced on Thursday an immediate 25pc import duty on steel - and 10pc on aluminium - as he fulfilled a campaign pledge which he claimed would protect US industrial workers.
Prior to the levies being slapped on imports, trade body UK Steel had already received reports of members having orders from US customers delayed as they waited to see if Mr Trump would go ahead with the tariffs.
With the move confirmed, Gareth Stace, director of UK Steel said the full force of its introduction would soon be felt.
You could have a ship loaded with steel from the UK 30 miles of the US coast and as of 12.01am its cargo suddenly gets 25pc more expensive for customers,” he said. “Someone has to absorb that cost.”
He said that many of the trade body’s members - who employ 31,000 people in the UK between them - are looking at how they can deal with the tariffs.
“We’ve got members who have long-standing relationships with customers in the US who want to buy from them, Mr Stace said. “A lot of these products have long lead times and they aren’t made in the US.
“Companies are working out whether they can split the higher costs with their customers or absorb the tariff themselves - or face cancellations.”
The UK exports about 350,000 tonnes of steel to the US a year, about 7pc of Britain’s annual production.“
In addition, the other impact will be the steel from other countries flooding the market here as a result of US orders being cancelled.
Tata’s Share price has fallen by c.5%.i know that you may argue that’s the ‘market’ and can be ignored, but Tata won’t ignore that drop. Shareholders won’t permit them to.
As you will recall, the EU was stopped from imposing tariffs in Chinese steel by the UK exercising its veto (and then telling everyone that the EU wouldn’t introduce tariffs).
While we are still in the EU of course, thankfully we can reciprocate with tariffs on US products (as has happene) to force the issue. Outside the EU and as a much smaller market, the US won’t care anywhere near as much if we took that action in the future. There is rumour Trump is considering a tariff on EU cars in response.
The people that will suffer are ordinary consumers. It’s an economically stupid move. [Post edited 1 Jun 2018 13:50]
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I do wonder where these figures are coming from, Lisa? I can tell you categorically that the amount of steel exported to the US is minuscule, from The Abbey anyway, and is of such specialised processing that it is highly unlikely to be sourced elsewhere.
It is also destined for specific military application which would suggest that it would be exempt? We’ll see. | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 15:55 - Jun 1 with 1514 views | sherpajacob |
| This is how a leader should act. on 21:48 - May 31 by Batterseajack |
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😩😂😂😂 [Post edited 31 May 2018 21:49]
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Trumps had a busy week.
Discussing prison reform with Kim Kardashian., going youth hostelling with Chris Eubank,
a game of monkey tennis doubles with bill oddie, starting a trade war with the EU, Canada and Mexico. |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 16:26 - Jun 1 with 1502 views | Highjack |
| This is how a leader should act. on 21:48 - May 31 by Batterseajack |
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣😂😂😩😂😂😂 [Post edited 31 May 2018 21:49]
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They’ve done a great job polishing that desk since bill Clinton left.
Semen is such a persistent stain. | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 16:33 - Jun 1 with 1491 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This is how a leader should act. on 16:26 - Jun 1 by Highjack |
They’ve done a great job polishing that desk since bill Clinton left.
Semen is such a persistent stain. |
It doesn’t get used much
Fore ðŸŒï¸â€â™€ï¸ | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 16:34 - Jun 1 with 1488 views | Shaky |
Republicans gobsmacked by Trump’s tariffs
GOP lawmakers thought the president was going to hit China – not key U.S. allies.
By BURGESS EVERETT
Politico, 05/31/2018 01:48 PM EDT
Republicans are bitterly protesting the Trump administration’s decision to impose sweeping tariffs on U.S. allies – alarmed that the White House ignored their frenzied lobbying campaign and afraid that the party could suffer at the polls in November.
. . .Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) called it “bad news” and predicted imminent retaliation from the key U.S. allies. Senate Finance Chairman Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) said there is "mounting evidence that these tariffs will harm Americans." And Sen. Ben Sasse (R-Neb.) warned that similar policies 90 years ago sparked the Great Depression.
“This is dumb. Europe, Canada, and Mexico are not China, and you don’t treat allies the same way you treat opponents,” Sasse said. “‘Make America Great Again’ shouldn’t mean ‘Make America 1929 Again.'"
Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Bob Corker called the move an “abuse of authority only intended for national security purposes.”
“This is a big mistake. These tariffs will raise prices and destroy manufacturing jobs, especially auto jobs, which are one-third of all Tennessee manufacturing jobs,” said Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), who said tariffs are “basically higher taxes on American consumers.”
Most Republicans believed that the Trump administration’s tariffs on aluminum and steel would be relegated to China and that exemptions for allies would continue into the summer. So Congress was largely blindsided by the administration’s reversal.
Full story: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/31/trump-tariffs-canada-mexico-republican |  |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 16:34 - Jun 1 with 1488 views | oh_tommy_tommy |
| This is how a leader should act. on 14:39 - Jun 1 by peenemunde |
Evidence? |
Try any of his speeches making America great again | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 16:37 - Jun 1 with 1482 views | Shaky |
Trump meets with families affected by Texas shooting
By JONATHAN LEMIRE
AP, 1 june, 2018
HOUSTON (AP) – Seeking to comfort grieving families and shaken survivors, President Donald Trump spent more than an hour privately Thursday with some of those impacted by a Texas mass school shooting that killed 10 and wounded more than a dozen on May 18.
. . .Rhonda Hart, whose 14-year-old daughter, Kimberly Vaughan, was killed at the school, told The Associated Press that Trump repeatedly used the word ‘wacky’ to describe the shooter and the trench coat he wore. She said she told Trump, “Maybe if everyone had access to mental health care, we wouldn’t be in the situation.”
Hart, an Army veteran, said she also suggested employing veterans as sentinels in schools. She said Trump responded, “And arm them?” She replied, “No,” but said Trump “kept mentioning” arming classroom teachers. “It was like talking to a toddler,” Hart said.
Reporters were not permitted to witness the meeting.
https://apnews.com/2c09cdab0af94a9c833cbcaca9c39c7d | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 17:51 - Jun 1 with 1424 views | peenemunde |
| This is how a leader should act. on 16:34 - Jun 1 by oh_tommy_tommy |
Try any of his speeches making America great again |
Give me one direct quote. | | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 17:59 - Jun 1 with 1417 views | londonlisa2001 |
| This is how a leader should act. on 15:09 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
I do wonder where these figures are coming from, Lisa? I can tell you categorically that the amount of steel exported to the US is minuscule, from The Abbey anyway, and is of such specialised processing that it is highly unlikely to be sourced elsewhere.
It is also destined for specific military application which would suggest that it would be exempt? We’ll see. |
Figures are UK Steel’s. but they also accord with everyone else’s figures including official trade statistics. FT, Indie, Telegraph, Guardian, BBC all quote same figures.
Tata Steel alone sees 10% of all exports going to the US according to reports.
See this from Kinnock when measures first announced (obvs PT is in his constituency):
Stephen Kinnock, Labour MP Aberavon, said: “This reckless and impetuous announcement from Donald Trump is deeply worrying for the British steel industry, centred on the Port Talbot steelworks in my Aberavon constituency.
“Around 10% of Tata Steel UK’s exports are to the United States, and are largely made up of the most sophisticated and high-tech steel products in the world, much of which the Americans cannot produce themselves.
“So Trump is set to cut of his own nose to spite his face, threatening jobs in the United States as well as the UK.”
He goes on to say:
“We must see, as a minimum, high quality British steel products exported to the USA exempted from this tariff, something that should be the case for exports from all fellow NATO members as well."
He added: “I have one simple message for Donald Trump: you won’t help American workers by thumping British steelworkers. British and American steelworkers have stood together in solidarity against illegal Chinese dumping; it is about time that our political leaders, Prime Ministers and Presidents, followed steelworkers lead in standing together, not turning on one another, to tackle the scourge of dumping with focused not blanket measures.”
I have to say, there isn’t a single report today in any news source that disagrees, and the CBI and UK Steel as the industry body, have also all said exactly the same thing. | | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 18:07 - Jun 1 with 1403 views | londonlisa2001 |
| This is how a leader should act. on 14:31 - Jun 1 by wobbly |
You probably need to be a little more consistent in your thinking Lisa.
i expect that if you read some economics textbooks, the same economists who will agree with you that these tariffs are an economically stupid move, would argue in the next paragraph that customs unions are economically stupid as well. And that is the case whether you are a nation either inside or outside of them.
After all, both tariffs and customs unions are disincentives to the economic benefits of free trade.
And yet you are a fierce advocate of staying in the customs union.
I’m not sure how you can hold both positions so fiercely. From an economic perspective, anyway. |
I’m an advocate of staying in the largest free trade block in the world, yes.
Because I’m in favour of free trade.
Nothing inconsistent about that.
If you are suggesting that I’d be more in favour of that free trade being even wider, you’d be right.
The economic argument against a customs union is that it imposes tariffs against anything outside it. There are any number of deals both in place and being negotiated at present between the EU and others which will allow free trade.
The issue with free trade, however, is that it comes with attachments. As part of the EU our ability to negotiate down those attachments is high. As just the UK it is not.
There are circumstances where I believe protectionism is useful. The case with Chinese steel being one of those. The EU being able to respond to the US at the moment in a way which causes Trump pause for thought is useful. But as a general rule, the more free trade agreements the better. | | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 18:18 - Jun 1 with 1388 views | Lohengrin |
| This is how a leader should act. on 17:59 - Jun 1 by londonlisa2001 |
Figures are UK Steel’s. but they also accord with everyone else’s figures including official trade statistics. FT, Indie, Telegraph, Guardian, BBC all quote same figures.
Tata Steel alone sees 10% of all exports going to the US according to reports.
See this from Kinnock when measures first announced (obvs PT is in his constituency):
Stephen Kinnock, Labour MP Aberavon, said: “This reckless and impetuous announcement from Donald Trump is deeply worrying for the British steel industry, centred on the Port Talbot steelworks in my Aberavon constituency.
“Around 10% of Tata Steel UK’s exports are to the United States, and are largely made up of the most sophisticated and high-tech steel products in the world, much of which the Americans cannot produce themselves.
“So Trump is set to cut of his own nose to spite his face, threatening jobs in the United States as well as the UK.”
He goes on to say:
“We must see, as a minimum, high quality British steel products exported to the USA exempted from this tariff, something that should be the case for exports from all fellow NATO members as well."
He added: “I have one simple message for Donald Trump: you won’t help American workers by thumping British steelworkers. British and American steelworkers have stood together in solidarity against illegal Chinese dumping; it is about time that our political leaders, Prime Ministers and Presidents, followed steelworkers lead in standing together, not turning on one another, to tackle the scourge of dumping with focused not blanket measures.”
I have to say, there isn’t a single report today in any news source that disagrees, and the CBI and UK Steel as the industry body, have also all said exactly the same thing. |
“Around 10% of Tata Steel UK’s exports are to the United States, and are largely made up of the most sophisticated and high-tech steel products in the world, much of which the Americans cannot produce themselves.
That’s all perfectly true aside from the 10% part. I don’t understand where that is coming from unless it’s part of some political consideration to overstate for dramatic emphasis? I deal with scheduling every day and it’s nowhere near that much, nothing like.
I’m starting to feel like watching or reading the news now is like tuning in to The Twilight Zone!  | |
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| This is how a leader should act. on 18:26 - Jun 1 with 1373 views | peenemunde |
| This is how a leader should act. on 18:18 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
“Around 10% of Tata Steel UK’s exports are to the United States, and are largely made up of the most sophisticated and high-tech steel products in the world, much of which the Americans cannot produce themselves.
That’s all perfectly true aside from the 10% part. I don’t understand where that is coming from unless it’s part of some political consideration to overstate for dramatic emphasis? I deal with scheduling every day and it’s nowhere near that much, nothing like.
I’m starting to feel like watching or reading the news now is like tuning in to The Twilight Zone! |
You must be wrong, cos Lisa said you was. She heard it on the tv, kinnock....it was.....  | | | |
| This is how a leader should act. on 18:27 - Jun 1 with 1371 views | peenemunde |
| This is how a leader should act. on 18:18 - Jun 1 by Lohengrin |
“Around 10% of Tata Steel UK’s exports are to the United States, and are largely made up of the most sophisticated and high-tech steel products in the world, much of which the Americans cannot produce themselves.
That’s all perfectly true aside from the 10% part. I don’t understand where that is coming from unless it’s part of some political consideration to overstate for dramatic emphasis? I deal with scheduling every day and it’s nowhere near that much, nothing like.
I’m starting to feel like watching or reading the news now is like tuning in to The Twilight Zone! |
So are you saying Lisa is gullible and swallowing fake news , left , right and centre ?. | | | |
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