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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago 17:36 - Jan 7 with 4554 viewsnumptydumpty

Can't all be blamed on that man.

The players have done this but how has it happened and how can you go from ripping teams apart to hardly making any attempts against an average team a division below..
[Post edited 7 Jan 2023 17:36]

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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:03 - Jan 8 with 563 viewsE17hoop

What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 23:42 - Jan 7 by Northernr

The standards at this club are in the bin. It's in everything they do.

I watched the strikers warming up today, doing the touch off the assistant coach and a shot at the second choice keeper, and they're pissing about, they trying chips and lobs, they're missing and missing and missing and it doesn't matter, the whole thing is a big joke and a laugh. Ooooh Allbert's chipped the youth team goalkeeper look, what jolly japes, well done Albert.

Our subs come out at half time and mooch about in a couple of little groups, chatting, toeing a ball between them a bit, but there's no warm up, no preparation, no focus, it's just tin kicking until it's time to go sit down again.

We got a corner first half, our two best players go over and take a short one, pis about with it, fck it up with a penalty box full of players waiting, luckily for them it goes behind for another corner, they go over again, take it short again, pis about again, and it ends up back on the halfway line with Hamalainen trying, and failing, to trap it.

Tyler Roberts comes on, spends his whole time falling over, because at the start of the game it was dry, and now it's wet, and he's got the wrong fcking boots on, which he'd have realised if he'd actually run around or had a few shots or something at half time, instead of laughing and joking with the other loans and adjusting his fcking top knot.

We score an actual fcking goal, and they're so delighted with themselves that Fleetwood are able to kick off, and knock the ball over the head of our centre back, and nearly score an eqauliser immediately, because he's gone to get involved in celebrating Sam Field's sizzling one yarder and hasn't got his fcking ars back in position in time for the fcking kick off.

And it's all just fine.. They didn''t even get that much abuse at full time. At one point we'd have been ripping that stand apart.


The culture of an organisation is the poorest standard of behaviour which is accepted in an organisation.

When standards are allowed to slip, it is because behaviours elsewhere have been left and that toxicity spreads. Like you've been saying Clive, there are problems throughout the club - why should I change my behaviour if I can see others across the team, club, and company (because that's what we are) get away with behaviour which should be deemed unacceptable.

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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:04 - Jan 8 with 556 viewsNorthernr

What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:03 - Jan 8 by E17hoop

The culture of an organisation is the poorest standard of behaviour which is accepted in an organisation.

When standards are allowed to slip, it is because behaviours elsewhere have been left and that toxicity spreads. Like you've been saying Clive, there are problems throughout the club - why should I change my behaviour if I can see others across the team, club, and company (because that's what we are) get away with behaviour which should be deemed unacceptable.


That first line is terrific mate. Expect to see me stealing it at some point this week.
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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:07 - Jan 8 with 524 viewsngbqpr

What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 23:42 - Jan 7 by Northernr

The standards at this club are in the bin. It's in everything they do.

I watched the strikers warming up today, doing the touch off the assistant coach and a shot at the second choice keeper, and they're pissing about, they trying chips and lobs, they're missing and missing and missing and it doesn't matter, the whole thing is a big joke and a laugh. Ooooh Allbert's chipped the youth team goalkeeper look, what jolly japes, well done Albert.

Our subs come out at half time and mooch about in a couple of little groups, chatting, toeing a ball between them a bit, but there's no warm up, no preparation, no focus, it's just tin kicking until it's time to go sit down again.

We got a corner first half, our two best players go over and take a short one, pis about with it, fck it up with a penalty box full of players waiting, luckily for them it goes behind for another corner, they go over again, take it short again, pis about again, and it ends up back on the halfway line with Hamalainen trying, and failing, to trap it.

Tyler Roberts comes on, spends his whole time falling over, because at the start of the game it was dry, and now it's wet, and he's got the wrong fcking boots on, which he'd have realised if he'd actually run around or had a few shots or something at half time, instead of laughing and joking with the other loans and adjusting his fcking top knot.

We score an actual fcking goal, and they're so delighted with themselves that Fleetwood are able to kick off, and knock the ball over the head of our centre back, and nearly score an eqauliser immediately, because he's gone to get involved in celebrating Sam Field's sizzling one yarder and hasn't got his fcking ars back in position in time for the fcking kick off.

And it's all just fine.. They didn''t even get that much abuse at full time. At one point we'd have been ripping that stand apart.


Part of what I do for a living is coaching a lot of kids football; and also mentoring all those lovely volunteer mums & dads who step up to run kids teams every weekend.

You will see 80% of kids teams using that "players take turns to do wall pass with coach then have a shot" warm up, and it is absolute dog $hit. It serves no purpose, I ban coaches I work with from using it, explain why, then give them at least a dozen more effective alternatives for both getting starters match ready or keeping subs fresh and motivated.

I never give it the big coaching I am on here cos my specialist area is kids aged 4-8 (introductory soccer schools then first two years of 5-a-side matches), then to an extent u9s & 10s who play 7-a-side (and all with grass roots, not at academies).

So it's worlds apart from the adult game, especially at pro level - but one thing I've found on the dozen or so coaching courses I've done, the pro coaches and expert tutors I've watched, is that there are dozens of effective warm ups that work at EVERY age and EVERY level.

QPR are one of many pro teams I see doing crap warm ups, and when it's my team doing it, it boils my pi$$.

Be it at training or on match day or for subs, warm ups set the tone for the whole session / match imho. Without flogging players pre-match, there are so many ways to give them some intensity and get players on their toes and itching to play.

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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:10 - Jan 8 with 489 viewsNorthernr

What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:07 - Jan 8 by ngbqpr

Part of what I do for a living is coaching a lot of kids football; and also mentoring all those lovely volunteer mums & dads who step up to run kids teams every weekend.

You will see 80% of kids teams using that "players take turns to do wall pass with coach then have a shot" warm up, and it is absolute dog $hit. It serves no purpose, I ban coaches I work with from using it, explain why, then give them at least a dozen more effective alternatives for both getting starters match ready or keeping subs fresh and motivated.

I never give it the big coaching I am on here cos my specialist area is kids aged 4-8 (introductory soccer schools then first two years of 5-a-side matches), then to an extent u9s & 10s who play 7-a-side (and all with grass roots, not at academies).

So it's worlds apart from the adult game, especially at pro level - but one thing I've found on the dozen or so coaching courses I've done, the pro coaches and expert tutors I've watched, is that there are dozens of effective warm ups that work at EVERY age and EVERY level.

QPR are one of many pro teams I see doing crap warm ups, and when it's my team doing it, it boils my pi$$.

Be it at training or on match day or for subs, warm ups set the tone for the whole session / match imho. Without flogging players pre-match, there are so many ways to give them some intensity and get players on their toes and itching to play.


And, weirdly, we've cycled through three sets of coaching staff through 2022, and it's all still exactly the same.
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What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:15 - Jan 8 with 452 viewsngbqpr

What has happened to the team that was top of the table two months ago on 17:10 - Jan 8 by Northernr

And, weirdly, we've cycled through three sets of coaching staff through 2022, and it's all still exactly the same.


I know...and with allegedly progressive, forward thinking coaches - AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!!

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