| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' 17:31 - Jan 21 with 22335 views | dalemark |
There is a very real danger that we are rotten from the bottom leading upwards within the club. The current playing squad are at risk of undermining the board & fan effort of the past 2 years.
Lack of effort, lack of commitment, lack of leadership... Quigley sarcastically clapping and nodding at the away fans at full time, players running and hiding...
After 100 years in the football league, after a 2 year fight to save the club, after the unification of a fanbase to remain fan-led, today we stare onto the abyss.
At the behest of Tony Pockney last Saturday, I sent an email to him on Monday with feedback and ideas for the club.
Almost one week later, I haven't even received a courtesy 'thanks for your email' response. If the ideas are rubbish, or not welcome, that is fine - but to not even get a simple reply raises questions about motivation and drive that need answering.
I never intended to make this email public, but for the sake of transparency, this is what was sent:
"Tony,
Following on from our conversation on Saturday Tony, I wanted to get in touch about some concerns / feedback / ideas for the retail and commercial side of the club. I take no pleasure in highlighting concerns, particularly following the unbelievable work the board did to safeguard the club from Morton House (which will never be forgotten), but at a time when we are losing £20K per week it is incredibly frustrating to see so many missed opportunities to increase commercial performance — the vast majority of the ideas I will outline below cost nothing other than existing wages, and just require some commercial acumen and forward / joined up thinking. I had a conversation with Simon over LinkedIn on the 2nd December 2021 offering voluntary support or consultancy for the retail / commercial side of the business, as I have ~15 years experience leading retail and omnichannel transformation and performance programmes, but didn’t hear back after the initial messages. That offer still stands today — I want to help.
There are lots of instances that I am aware of where sponsors, potential sponsors and corporate hospitality guests have had difficulty getting in touch with the commercial team. When they have managed to do so, the response has been underwhelming with false promises, long SLAs and generally a lethargic attitude. A few of them very much feel like once the club has their money they are no longer valued, and that is a dangerous position to be in. We need to quickly build relationships with small, medium and large businesses in the Rochdale Borough that have been allowed to lapse. Its frustrating that a smaller sports club in the town (Hornets) seem much more adept at doing this than we are, particularly given the size of our commercial team at present. Rochdale as a town is lucky to have a professional football team — its our job to help people understand that and build relationships so they want to be part of our journey.
Idea #1 — Add value to existing sponsors. Do this by updating all player imagery (social media / scoreboard) with images of their player sponsors (these have recently been added to substitutions which is a huge step forward)... at Barrow they read out the names of sponsors over the tannoy when announcing the squad and substitutions etc. This is a free and easy way to add value to sponsors at zero extra cost, and would help them reach people who may not pay much attention to the scoreboard. Give every single player sponsor a feature on our social media channels — ‘Friends of the club February’ or something similar. Tag them in where we have their profiles, thank them for their support and give a brief piece about what they do. This would add so much value to the businesses we have as sponsors and foster so much goodwill. Most importantly, tell them we are doing it! Let them know how much additional value we are giving them at no extra cost — at a tough time for the club, we appreciate their support.
Idea #2 — Have a huge drive on reengaging with existing and lapsed sponsors. Ask them in a consistent format (survey or similar) how they are REALLY finding their relationship with the club, and don’t be afraid of constructive feedback. Find out what they love about dealing with us, and canvas their opinions on how we could add value to them ahead of them sponsoring again next season. Use this insight to drive our commercial offering in 2023 and beyond… if we are to remain fan led, that needs to permeate throughout the club. Sponsorships should be sponsor led. Executive packages should be people led. Retail should be demand and customer led… you get the idea. If we get this right now, we have time to shape sponsorship for 2023/24 and beyond. As a thank you for their time and feedback, offer them a couple of free tickets for an upcoming match. Have the commercial team on hand to meet them and have a chat with them face to face on the day — this would be so much more powerful than a relationship based on emails or phone calls.
Idea #3 — Leverage remaining sponsorship opportunities for this season. It was great to see the sponsorship angle with Danny Lloyd, but that quickly lapsed back to normal when we signed Eastwood back. There was no mention of sponsorship on his welcome article — a missed opportunity. Lets look at selling sponsorship for injury time - £50 per match or £500 for the rest of the season. It would cost nothing to add an image onto the scoreboard, and they would be guaranteed to have their business name read out twice per game. Contact lapsed player sponsors and ask if they would be interested in a discounted rate for the rest of the season. Lets start building up an active and engaged sponsorship database ahead of next season — warm leads if you will. I don’t know whether we have an active pipeline software or CRM, but if we don’t then free alternatives are available.
Idea #4 — Have an agreed process for updating the social media headers and fixture board at 15:01 on every matchday. Until 10am this morning we were still advertising Colchester (H) as our next game on social media. It’s a 2 minute job, and just creates a more seamless experience for the occasional attendee. The next fixture should be showing as people walk out at full time, and should be showing to anybody who checks social media during the current game. As part of this, we could be making better use of the billboard on Sandy Lane / Wilbutts Lane. It is still advertising season tickets that went off sale 4 months ago. One graphic showing all upcoming matches that month could be put up as soon as the last game of the current month has finished. This is the only idea I’m proposing that costs actual money, and we could even offer that out for sponsorship — get a company to pay for the print and install and give them a prominent space on the billboard.
Idea #5 — Work smarter not harder with our retail offering. As of now, I literally cannot go onto the club shop website and buy a Dale pen, a Dale mug, a Dale notebook, a Dale water bottle. I appreciate your point about minimum order quantities, but for the items I just mentioned they will not expire. The Hendo merchandise became available a whole month after he broke the record…. If we were thinking commercially, as soon as he was two goals away they should’ve been ordered and in the stock room. The minute he broke the record there should have been tweets ready to go advertising them… how many people would’ve gone to the shop immediately after the Salford game to get a piece of memorabilia there and then whilst the feel good factor was still around? Missed opportunity.
We could be advertising relevant products on every single article on the website. Hartlepool travel? Link to the coat sale we have on because its going to be cold. Fitness in the community programme? Link to fitness wear that we have, as the target demographic may not have sportswear already. Player interviews? Link to autograph books and pens. It is so simple, and it should be easy to track click through & success rates. Fans of the club are a captive audience, but they may never go onto the shop website as it is currently so poor. Link something from there that is relevant to an article they’ve taken the time to read and I’d expect a decent uplift.
Idea #6 — Following on from Idea 5, I’d be interested to know if we have explored ‘direct from supplier’ stockists. If ordering minimum quantities is a challenge and we rarely break even on items, de-risk it by taking a smaller profit from items that are dispatched by the manufacturer. It saves us sitting on stock, and even if we just take 20%, 20% of something is better than the current 100% of nothing. If we are not in the financial position to take risks on lines, lets look at getting the whole online shop running in the same fashion as the personalised section. The recent kit survey was a fantastic idea — we could do similar for our retail offering to shape what we want to do in future… I’ve attached a really simple draft as a starting point.
These are some really simple ideas which, as I outlined at the start, require no funding but do require passion, forward thinking and a joined up departmental approach from the people we employ to deliver on our commercial and retail performance goals. They are in the main simple, free and measurable. You know as well as I do that historically the club has been slated for poor commercial offerings and departments working in silo. Building on the good work you guys have done in terms of accountability and reporting, there is a huge opportunity to make a sizeable and noticeable difference across these areas of the club. I’d be happy to come and have a face to face conversation with you to work through the above in more detail, and discuss more aspirational future ideas such as targeted advertising and endless aisle through our online offering, at a time that is convenient. There is a groundswell of pride amongst the fanbase, and a real willingness from people to help. I’m proud to support a fan owned / fan led club, as are others… we all have skin in the game and a reason to make this work.
Let me know if you have any questions on any of the above, if you want to meet to discuss in further detail, or if I can help out in any way at all."
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 20:26 - Jan 21 with 2695 views | dalemark |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:20 - Jan 21 by TalkingSutty |
Who are the people who work in the commercial department and how long have they been in post? I’m assuming these members of staff were recruited by the previous regime because i don’t recall the positions being advertised by the current board. Do they have experience of working in a football club environment? If what you have posted is correct then it sounds like the planning for non league is already under way, barely halfway through the current campaign. Throwing the towel in off the pitch at such a early stage isn’t what should be happening, maybe the players have picked up on it? [Post edited 21 Jan 2023 20:28]
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https://www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/club/whos-who/
Adrian Hunt
Jenny Warburton-Jagger
Matt Davies
Have a google and it should give you an idea of their previous roles. [Post edited 22 Jan 2023 11:56]
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:26 - Jan 21 with 2695 views | Rodingdale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 19:43 - Jan 21 by DorkingDale |
Don't be ridiculous. What are protests going to achieve?!
Do you have a credible, practical answer to the urgent need for funding?
Who do you suggest would be willing to replace the current board given the precarious situation we are in?
Maybe you are in contact with few Hollywood actors who would be willing to stick in a few million as at Wrexham? If so, I'm sure that the board would be delighted to progress that option......
Get a grip - we have one decent player who is 37 years old & we have no funds to invest in new players.
If you feel the need to protest I suggest that you do so at the players and manager - because the performance on the pitch this season has been disgraceful. |
The problem is that the boards ‘we’ve got this’ stance is at odds from what posters on this message board are experiencing- on and off the pitch. The lack of engagement from the club leads to frustration expressed here by fft. The OP has indicated that a rational helpful offer to assist and others who have pointed out where the money / business is in the town - but it seems to fall of deaf ears - so that response tends to build frustration - which could be avoided by a different approach and one which I’d have thought was more familiar to SG.
I can’t understand why SG as chairman - having had a career in aviation - an industry noted from its continuous improvement feedback loop culture - seems to have succumbed to the prevalent RAFC CBA culture. We don’t have a CRM FFS! |  | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:28 - Jan 21 with 2678 views | kel |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:22 - Jan 21 by blackdogblue |
Just a thought…
We own the ground etc & have no “extreme” debts like a mortgage etc…
Should the Club be “borrowing” money on the asset that is the ground to invest in players (like other clubs around us in the bottom / rock bottom places) to fight for league status?
Cometh the hour, cometh the need….
If / when new investors are found as stated, first priority would be to pay any of that off…
Apologies if this has been in another thread somewhere & not seen it.. |
Would you lend us money? Would be like pissing it up a wall. |  | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:30 - Jan 21 with 2653 views | James1980 |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:22 - Jan 21 by blackdogblue |
Just a thought…
We own the ground etc & have no “extreme” debts like a mortgage etc…
Should the Club be “borrowing” money on the asset that is the ground to invest in players (like other clubs around us in the bottom / rock bottom places) to fight for league status?
Cometh the hour, cometh the need….
If / when new investors are found as stated, first priority would be to pay any of that off…
Apologies if this has been in another thread somewhere & not seen it.. |
Isn't it too late to raise funds by mortgaging the ground to get players in? | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:34 - Jan 21 with 2607 views | 442Dale |
Even the retro section alone illustrates more thought is put in by Scarborough. They also sell their merchandise in a convenience store in the town centre - a simple tactic but one that is at least trying something different. |  |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:47 - Jan 21 with 2538 views | blackdogblue |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:30 - Jan 21 by James1980 |
Isn't it too late to raise funds by mortgaging the ground to get players in? |
Nothing is too late… beg, borrow … steal
If all else fails ask around if anyone wants a game Saturday at the Soccer Factory |  |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:48 - Jan 21 with 2537 views | DorkingDale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:30 - Jan 21 by James1980 |
Isn't it too late to raise funds by mortgaging the ground to get players in? |
...quite James. Need immediate cash to invest - so it's down to tonight's lottery  | | | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:57 - Jan 21 with 2480 views | James1980 |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 20:47 - Jan 21 by blackdogblue |
Nothing is too late… beg, borrow … steal
If all else fails ask around if anyone wants a game Saturday at the Soccer Factory |
But to put the ground up as collateral would require an EGM which I believe requires a notice period and would 75% agree also would a bank loan us the money? | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:05 - Jan 21 with 2435 views | fourfourtwo |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 19:43 - Jan 21 by DorkingDale |
Don't be ridiculous. What are protests going to achieve?!
Do you have a credible, practical answer to the urgent need for funding?
Who do you suggest would be willing to replace the current board given the precarious situation we are in?
Maybe you are in contact with few Hollywood actors who would be willing to stick in a few million as at Wrexham? If so, I'm sure that the board would be delighted to progress that option......
Get a grip - we have one decent player who is 37 years old & we have no funds to invest in new players.
If you feel the need to protest I suggest that you do so at the players and manager - because the performance on the pitch this season has been disgraceful. |
Don’t be ridiculous? Hilarious.
I’ll tell you what. Let’s do nothing then.
Let’s all sit on here and whinge and moan, like we have for the last two years. And what has that changed?
Are the board running the club well? Doesn’t look like it?
How’re the players fairing? Absolutely bloody awful.
The author of this post was told, by a director, to email him with his thoughts. He has been completely blanked.
The whole club is a joke from top to bottom and people like you just want to sit on their arses and do nothing.
You know what. Now is the time for action. It’s the time for fans to give the people running the club the message that this is unacceptable.
We’re supposed to be a fan owned club. But some of you aren’t prepared to stand up and do anything? Joke. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:10 - Jan 21 with 2405 views | fourfourtwo |
Jenny never replied to me on linked in regard a business suggestion. Literally blanked me. Appalling. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:16 - Jan 21 with 2365 views | HullDale |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 21:10 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
Jenny never replied to me on linked in regard a business suggestion. Literally blanked me. Appalling. |
I've got a mate who emailed JWJ & the Events email address almost two weeks ago about booking a do in the Ratcliffe.
After no response, they have now booked elsewhere and the club have missed out on room hire plus bar takings.
At least the big blue sign looks pretty though. |  | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:19 - Jan 21 with 2349 views | 442Dale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:05 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
Don’t be ridiculous? Hilarious.
I’ll tell you what. Let’s do nothing then.
Let’s all sit on here and whinge and moan, like we have for the last two years. And what has that changed?
Are the board running the club well? Doesn’t look like it?
How’re the players fairing? Absolutely bloody awful.
The author of this post was told, by a director, to email him with his thoughts. He has been completely blanked.
The whole club is a joke from top to bottom and people like you just want to sit on their arses and do nothing.
You know what. Now is the time for action. It’s the time for fans to give the people running the club the message that this is unacceptable.
We’re supposed to be a fan owned club. But some of you aren’t prepared to stand up and do anything? Joke. |
On the last line: it’s not about creating problems amongst ourselves! We shouldn’t be challenging people to stand up, if people want to help that can come in a variety of ways. There’s no prescribed option, as long as it’s constructive then that’s what matters.
Protests will achieve nothing right now (an opinion, that’s all). Trying to get some positive change, which to be fair has happened on occasion, has to be the way forward.
Might be missing the point entirely, but how else can fans give the club the message apart from making it clear through the available routes that we have to do better? | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:20 - Jan 21 with 2338 views | nordenblue |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:19 - Jan 21 by 442Dale |
On the last line: it’s not about creating problems amongst ourselves! We shouldn’t be challenging people to stand up, if people want to help that can come in a variety of ways. There’s no prescribed option, as long as it’s constructive then that’s what matters.
Protests will achieve nothing right now (an opinion, that’s all). Trying to get some positive change, which to be fair has happened on occasion, has to be the way forward.
Might be missing the point entirely, but how else can fans give the club the message apart from making it clear through the available routes that we have to do better? |
We could do much worse than surrounding ourselves with guys like this at the football club, if only everyone had the same passion.....
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:26 - Jan 21 with 2311 views | fourfourtwo |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:19 - Jan 21 by 442Dale |
On the last line: it’s not about creating problems amongst ourselves! We shouldn’t be challenging people to stand up, if people want to help that can come in a variety of ways. There’s no prescribed option, as long as it’s constructive then that’s what matters.
Protests will achieve nothing right now (an opinion, that’s all). Trying to get some positive change, which to be fair has happened on occasion, has to be the way forward.
Might be missing the point entirely, but how else can fans give the club the message apart from making it clear through the available routes that we have to do better? |
How are we supposed to impact positive change when the club are blatantly ignoring us? (See multiple posts above for examples).
Gauge is at the point of losing all credibility. U-turns bigger than the Tory government. A complete inability to sign players, when we knew January was going to be unbelievably important in bloody August when it became clear how poor Stockdale’s signings were.
The club couldn’t be in a worse state yet people still just want to sit back and let things ride.
I was crucified on here last year for calling Stockdale out as a fraud and demanding he be sacked earlier. So many of you didn’t agree. Demanded he be given time. Look what damage that has done.
The fans are culpable for the mess we’re in because we’re too bloody soft and too bloody understanding.
This forum is about differing opinions and mine is that we need fan intervention and action.
This board, for all the good they have done, are also now in the process of destroying the club along with an atrocious group of players and a manager who really isn’t helping.
Today was the final straw for me. Things need to change. Now. | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:27 - Jan 21 with 2301 views | 442Dale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:20 - Jan 21 by nordenblue |
We could do much worse than surrounding ourselves with guys like this at the football club, if only everyone had the same passion.....
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We stayed up in ‘87 because of players like Reid, Bramhall and Simmonds. Their heart was visibly greater than their talent - well, Lyndon’s was probably about the same! The team was very limited in terms of ability, it was behind this current lot on that score, but fans could see the desire and with that hope was never lost.
That’s why it’s so demoralising now, the hope is almost gone.
(Probably being too defeatist there, eh?) | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:28 - Jan 21 with 2279 views | 442Dale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:26 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
How are we supposed to impact positive change when the club are blatantly ignoring us? (See multiple posts above for examples).
Gauge is at the point of losing all credibility. U-turns bigger than the Tory government. A complete inability to sign players, when we knew January was going to be unbelievably important in bloody August when it became clear how poor Stockdale’s signings were.
The club couldn’t be in a worse state yet people still just want to sit back and let things ride.
I was crucified on here last year for calling Stockdale out as a fraud and demanding he be sacked earlier. So many of you didn’t agree. Demanded he be given time. Look what damage that has done.
The fans are culpable for the mess we’re in because we’re too bloody soft and too bloody understanding.
This forum is about differing opinions and mine is that we need fan intervention and action.
This board, for all the good they have done, are also now in the process of destroying the club along with an atrocious group of players and a manager who really isn’t helping.
Today was the final straw for me. Things need to change. Now. |
Ok, so what would your plan be? | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:29 - Jan 21 with 2279 views | James1980 |
We could be in a worse state Morton House could have taken over. | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:33 - Jan 21 with 2240 views | fourfourtwo |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:28 - Jan 21 by 442Dale |
Ok, so what would your plan be? |
An EGM should have already been called by the trust following the U-turn from a fan owned club to the now need for an investor. Too many have swallowed this change too easily and it needs calling out.
There should be a United fan effort in the ground to try and bring things together. No idea where the undercoaters have gone but the atmosphere in the ground is back to its worst of late.
If the club continue to blatantly ignore fans and players continue to not give a sh1t then there should be organised meets outside the ground before and after games to tell directors and players that this isn’t acceptable.
It’s too easy for these muppets to turn up and continue to mug everyone off each week.
There’s now rumours that Cameron John (yes Cameron John who is quite possibly the worst defender I’ve ever possibly seen) is now our top earner on £2.4K per week. Absolutely unbelievable. | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:41 - Jan 21 with 2180 views | 442Dale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:33 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
An EGM should have already been called by the trust following the U-turn from a fan owned club to the now need for an investor. Too many have swallowed this change too easily and it needs calling out.
There should be a United fan effort in the ground to try and bring things together. No idea where the undercoaters have gone but the atmosphere in the ground is back to its worst of late.
If the club continue to blatantly ignore fans and players continue to not give a sh1t then there should be organised meets outside the ground before and after games to tell directors and players that this isn’t acceptable.
It’s too easy for these muppets to turn up and continue to mug everyone off each week.
There’s now rumours that Cameron John (yes Cameron John who is quite possibly the worst defender I’ve ever possibly seen) is now our top earner on £2.4K per week. Absolutely unbelievable. |
Have you contacted the Trust about an EGM? What was their reply?
Plenty of people are saying that the club has to do better, but it’s trying to establish what route forward you’re suggesting from this point and what the proposed actions will be achieving.
For example, are you saying you’ll organise the meets for the Carlisle game and come up with a detailed explanation for others/the club so we can see why it’s happening?
Honestly, this is not about picking apart what is and isn’t going to happen, but it’s a very tough time for everyone and any moves have to be for the benefit of the club’s future. And that’s not strictly aimed at you, Fourfourtwo, but for anyone who is reading who can make a difference.
And they undoubtedly are reading. | |
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| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:03 - Jan 21 with 2076 views | DorkingDale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:05 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
Don’t be ridiculous? Hilarious.
I’ll tell you what. Let’s do nothing then.
Let’s all sit on here and whinge and moan, like we have for the last two years. And what has that changed?
Are the board running the club well? Doesn’t look like it?
How’re the players fairing? Absolutely bloody awful.
The author of this post was told, by a director, to email him with his thoughts. He has been completely blanked.
The whole club is a joke from top to bottom and people like you just want to sit on their arses and do nothing.
You know what. Now is the time for action. It’s the time for fans to give the people running the club the message that this is unacceptable.
We’re supposed to be a fan owned club. But some of you aren’t prepared to stand up and do anything? Joke. |
So what do you suggest is the alternative?
Do you have knowledge of anyone who will come in to finance the club & work for no recompense in the way that the current board have done? | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:09 - Jan 21 with 2045 views | DorkingDale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 21:26 - Jan 21 by fourfourtwo |
How are we supposed to impact positive change when the club are blatantly ignoring us? (See multiple posts above for examples).
Gauge is at the point of losing all credibility. U-turns bigger than the Tory government. A complete inability to sign players, when we knew January was going to be unbelievably important in bloody August when it became clear how poor Stockdale’s signings were.
The club couldn’t be in a worse state yet people still just want to sit back and let things ride.
I was crucified on here last year for calling Stockdale out as a fraud and demanding he be sacked earlier. So many of you didn’t agree. Demanded he be given time. Look what damage that has done.
The fans are culpable for the mess we’re in because we’re too bloody soft and too bloody understanding.
This forum is about differing opinions and mine is that we need fan intervention and action.
This board, for all the good they have done, are also now in the process of destroying the club along with an atrocious group of players and a manager who really isn’t helping.
Today was the final straw for me. Things need to change. Now. |
Agree with regard to the current squad - but there is no money......Chairman has made that perfectly clear. Maybe he's made the mistake of being too honest. | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:11 - Jan 21 with 2034 views | dalemark |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:03 - Jan 21 by DorkingDale |
So what do you suggest is the alternative?
Do you have knowledge of anyone who will come in to finance the club & work for no recompense in the way that the current board have done? |
I've repeatedly offered to come in and work voluntarily on a consultancy basis... reviewing the current operation & finding growth areas, or supporting in idea generation & delivery. Realistically I could offer a full working day per week for the forseable future.
I know of dozens (if not scores) of others who could and would do the same, but I / they face a constant wall of silence.
How long will those offers of support stand before people lose their motivation to make things happen? I'm not shy about the fact that my experience this week has left me just as disillusioned with the club as the XI on the pitch do every Saturday.
What happened to the 'volunteer army'? | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:15 - Jan 21 with 2006 views | DorkingDale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:11 - Jan 21 by dalemark |
I've repeatedly offered to come in and work voluntarily on a consultancy basis... reviewing the current operation & finding growth areas, or supporting in idea generation & delivery. Realistically I could offer a full working day per week for the forseable future.
I know of dozens (if not scores) of others who could and would do the same, but I / they face a constant wall of silence.
How long will those offers of support stand before people lose their motivation to make things happen? I'm not shy about the fact that my experience this week has left me just as disillusioned with the club as the XI on the pitch do every Saturday.
What happened to the 'volunteer army'? |
Full credit to you - and it's shameful that your efforts haven't been acknowledged.
Hope that the Club will react accordingly after this post. | | | |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:19 - Jan 21 with 1974 views | 442Dale |
| 'You're Not Fit To Wear The Shirt...' on 22:11 - Jan 21 by dalemark |
I've repeatedly offered to come in and work voluntarily on a consultancy basis... reviewing the current operation & finding growth areas, or supporting in idea generation & delivery. Realistically I could offer a full working day per week for the forseable future.
I know of dozens (if not scores) of others who could and would do the same, but I / they face a constant wall of silence.
How long will those offers of support stand before people lose their motivation to make things happen? I'm not shy about the fact that my experience this week has left me just as disillusioned with the club as the XI on the pitch do every Saturday.
What happened to the 'volunteer army'? |
https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2023/01/10891/
<<“It was discussed at the Shareholders AGM a couple of months ago that the Club were looking into working closer with the fanbase, by offering positions that supporters could volunteer for. The Club stated that they were very close to finishing the details behind this scheme and it will be launched at some stage in January.
Action: Club to publish details of the Voluntary Scheme in January.”>>
Let’s not be unfair here, the club do engage with the Trust and fans and that is deserving of credit. It’s more that there should be a constant desire to do better and welcome the constructive criticism and ideas. The frustrations you have had are a good example of this. There’s no consistency and visible process. Whether this will change in the next ten days when details of the Voluntary Scheme are released, is something that will have to be assessed.
Worth noting in there that the club have followed through on engaging with fans on kits. Proof that going through the Trust and having a known process with regards to reporting on meetings and having defined timelines can work.
It’s making that the norm in every situation. | |
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