| Trump peace deal 22:08 - Nov 21 with 2367 views | onehunglow |
Ukraine gives in
Nice work Don
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| Trump peace deal on 03:39 - Nov 22 with 1844 views | AnotherJohn |
In recent weeks it had seemed that Trump had finally understood that he was being played by Putin, but the current Moscow-drafted plan suggests not. Is it possible that the Russians really do have something compromising on the POTUS? Putin's whisper in Trump's ear seems to do the trick every time. I half wonder whether Epstein passed some information on to the Russians. | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 09:28 - Nov 22 with 1755 views | Boundy |
| Trump peace deal on 03:39 - Nov 22 by AnotherJohn |
In recent weeks it had seemed that Trump had finally understood that he was being played by Putin, but the current Moscow-drafted plan suggests not. Is it possible that the Russians really do have something compromising on the POTUS? Putin's whisper in Trump's ear seems to do the trick every time. I half wonder whether Epstein passed some information on to the Russians. |
He wouldn't be the first US President to have things exposed he'd rather have not , ask Bush why he went after Saddam for one. | |
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| Trump peace deal on 09:31 - Nov 22 with 1752 views | onehunglow |
It shows Trump had no interest at all in Ukraine unless it benefits him
An appalling man in every way | |
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| Trump peace deal on 11:38 - Nov 22 with 1696 views | builthjack |
It's disgusting. Trump thinks he is God.
He needs to know he is not.
He is siding with Putin, likely been doing deals with him all along.
Somebody will.shoot him hopefully. |  |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Trump peace deal on 12:22 - Nov 22 with 1671 views | onehunglow |
| Trump peace deal on 11:38 - Nov 22 by builthjack |
It's disgusting. Trump thinks he is God.
He needs to know he is not.
He is siding with Putin, likely been doing deals with him all along.
Somebody will.shoot him hopefully. |
If ever we needed an assassination it’s for Putin
As for Trump … | |
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| Trump peace deal on 13:52 - Nov 22 with 1631 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
If i was a Russian patriot I would be extremely worried about the attacks on oil refineries and ports. Talk of 40% loss of capability is horrendous for them. Russia is in a weather in position but pretending it has no issues. They are bluffing and Putin is terrified.
The problem is the idea that Russia can call the shots. They cannot. |  |
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| Trump peace deal on 18:50 - Nov 22 with 1535 views | johnlangy |
Even the people on here who admire Trump have to admit that this so called peace plan is a pathetically stupid one and is virtually impossible for Ukraine to accept. | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 09:38 - Nov 23 with 1412 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trump peace deal on 11:38 - Nov 22 by builthjack |
It's disgusting. Trump thinks he is God.
He needs to know he is not.
He is siding with Putin, likely been doing deals with him all along.
Somebody will.shoot him hopefully. |
That’s a a disgusting thing to say.
Should we all go around shooting people we don’t like? |  |
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| Trump peace deal on 09:51 - Nov 23 with 1398 views | builthjack |
| Trump peace deal on 09:38 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
That’s a a disgusting thing to say.
Should we all go around shooting people we don’t like? |
Trump is happy to allow others to kill people.
He is just in at for the money.
I said somebody will shoot him. I didn’t say I would. [Post edited 23 Nov 9:53]
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| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Trump peace deal on 10:07 - Nov 23 with 1373 views | onehunglow |
| Trump peace deal on 09:38 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
That’s a a disgusting thing to say.
Should we all go around shooting people we don’t like? |
I’m
With Builty here
Putin is a mass murderer as was Hitler Stalin and Pol Pot
They need / needed eliminating
And Putin needs eliminating to stop Ukrainian men women and children from being bombed
Putin is dangerous
Trump is feral | |
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| Trump peace deal on 10:13 - Nov 23 with 1372 views | pete |
| Trump peace deal on 09:51 - Nov 23 by builthjack |
Trump is happy to allow others to kill people.
He is just in at for the money.
I said somebody will shoot him. I didn’t say I would. [Post edited 23 Nov 9:53]
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I think trump is the most afull leader usa as ever had, his family are without doubt raking in billions and he gives not a fig for the working class of america, pardons rioters calls them patriots, i will not set foot in usa while he is still in charge and would advise everyone the same, he flip flops on things lies through his teeth and in this case gives the bullys what they want,
Must agree Builth in it for the money and the power a dispicacle person ( he isnt a man) | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 10:36 - Nov 23 with 1355 views | builthjack |
Exactly. All he really cares about is money.
Lives do not matter.
Putin tells him that Russia and the USA will do huge trade deals if Trump gets Ukraine to sign their lives away. Trump says yes Vlad mate, that sounds good.
I am a huge Wales football fan, home and away. If we get there and are in a group playing in America, I will not be going. | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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| Trump peace deal on 10:43 - Nov 23 with 1343 views | onehunglow |
| Trump peace deal on 10:36 - Nov 23 by builthjack |
Exactly. All he really cares about is money.
Lives do not matter.
Putin tells him that Russia and the USA will do huge trade deals if Trump gets Ukraine to sign their lives away. Trump says yes Vlad mate, that sounds good.
I am a huge Wales football fan, home and away. If we get there and are in a group playing in America, I will not be going. |
I admire your principle as O know how big a Wales fan you are
That said, you might be possible on your own hands
I have no compunction is hopongvTrumps end comes soon as he has caused nothing but distress to millions and is an immoral shithouse who is on massive ego trip
Ukraine is almost forgotten by us
Nobody supports them like Palestinian Action do their own
We need the world to stand up to Russia once and for all
Putin exports death | |
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| Trump peace deal on 11:33 - Nov 23 with 1298 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trump peace deal on 10:55 - Nov 23 by AnotherJohn |
Even if you word the sentence "Somebody can shoot X for all I care", there is a certain risk if that is posted online, as Lucy Connolly found out in a different context.  |
Openly calling for political assassinations put people firmly into the extremist category.
It’s vile. | |
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| Trump peace deal on 11:49 - Nov 23 with 1287 views | onehunglow |
| Trump peace deal on 11:33 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Openly calling for political assassinations put people firmly into the extremist category.
It’s vile. |
Sorry Joesus but he’s a mass murderer
Anyway, different views and I respect yours | |
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| Trump peace deal on 12:12 - Nov 23 with 1260 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trump peace deal on 11:49 - Nov 23 by onehunglow |
Sorry Joesus but he’s a mass murderer
Anyway, different views and I respect yours |
No doubt he is but if you support the idea that it’s acceptable to condone the killing of political figures you don’t like then it makes the deaths of Jo Cox and David Amess acceptable too. I don’t like my council tax going through the roof whilst simultaneously not getting the services I am paying for, doesn’t mean I should slaughter the entire council.
It’s a slippery slope. | |
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| Trump peace deal on 13:42 - Nov 23 with 1230 views | onehunglow |
| Trump peace deal on 12:12 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
No doubt he is but if you support the idea that it’s acceptable to condone the killing of political figures you don’t like then it makes the deaths of Jo Cox and David Amess acceptable too. I don’t like my council tax going through the roof whilst simultaneously not getting the services I am paying for, doesn’t mean I should slaughter the entire council.
It’s a slippery slope. |
I condone the killing of all mass murderers
Allowing them to daughter is the slipperyest of slopes
Anyway, where’s Builty gone ? | |
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| Trump peace deal on 14:16 - Nov 23 with 1214 views | controversial_jack |
The endgame is almost upon the Ukranian conflict. Ukranian troops are surrounded and cut off.
Pokrovsk and Kupiansk have been taken. The country is now wide open for Russian advancement
Trump knows this, so does Putin and Zelensky. Targeting Russian refineries will have no effect at all. Zelensky has no options. but to surrender or keep on fighting and get destroyed.
This will be a huge blow to NATO and especially the US. It's time to distance ourselves from the Yanks and their foreign policy once and for all | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 14:36 - Nov 23 with 1207 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trump peace deal on 13:42 - Nov 23 by onehunglow |
I condone the killing of all mass murderers
Allowing them to daughter is the slipperyest of slopes
Anyway, where’s Builty gone ? |
Yes but in Trump’s case he has a lot of haters but there’s also millions of Americans who are passionate and very vocal supporters of his. Imagine the backlash if he was taken out you’d have another civil war over there.
Same as Putin it would create a massive power vacuum, we saw what happened in Iraq and Syria when their leaders were taken out in violent circumstances as well as other countries. The shooting of an Archduke fired off a chain reaction that led to the biggest war the world had ever seen, it never ever ends well. | |
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| Trump peace deal on 14:40 - Nov 23 with 1196 views | controversial_jack |
| Trump peace deal on 14:36 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Yes but in Trump’s case he has a lot of haters but there’s also millions of Americans who are passionate and very vocal supporters of his. Imagine the backlash if he was taken out you’d have another civil war over there.
Same as Putin it would create a massive power vacuum, we saw what happened in Iraq and Syria when their leaders were taken out in violent circumstances as well as other countries. The shooting of an Archduke fired off a chain reaction that led to the biggest war the world had ever seen, it never ever ends well. |
Actually the assasination wasn't the cause or start of ww1, it was just one of many triggers.
The break up of the old Austro Hungarian empire and Serbia in particular wanting to leave forced the hand of Vienna, but their demands upon Serbia were unrealistic, just like Trumps demands for the Ukraine are.However, both Serbia and Ukraine were left with no options. Let's hope this doesn't escalate further | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 14:44 - Nov 23 with 1184 views | trampie |
| Trump peace deal on 03:39 - Nov 22 by AnotherJohn |
In recent weeks it had seemed that Trump had finally understood that he was being played by Putin, but the current Moscow-drafted plan suggests not. Is it possible that the Russians really do have something compromising on the POTUS? Putin's whisper in Trump's ear seems to do the trick every time. I half wonder whether Epstein passed some information on to the Russians. |
As regards Epstein there had been rumours about Epstein and Israel for years, makes you wonder if Israel has anything on powerful Americans. |  |
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| Trump peace deal on 15:16 - Nov 23 with 1166 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Trump peace deal on 14:40 - Nov 23 by controversial_jack |
Actually the assasination wasn't the cause or start of ww1, it was just one of many triggers.
The break up of the old Austro Hungarian empire and Serbia in particular wanting to leave forced the hand of Vienna, but their demands upon Serbia were unrealistic, just like Trumps demands for the Ukraine are.However, both Serbia and Ukraine were left with no options. Let's hope this doesn't escalate further |
Pretty much every historian of repute out there would say it was the flashpoint that catalysed the tension into actual conflict.
Fact remains that history teaches us that the violent removal of political rivals nearly always results in either a war or a worse situation than existed before. The murder of Prince Arthur of Brittany by King Johns own hand led to the barons war and the loss of the Angevin Empire. The murder of Richard II by Henry Bolingbroke caused the wars of the roses. The political decision to try and execute Charles I led to the tyranny of Cromwell during the interregnum. I could go on and on and on the list is endless but it pretty much always causes factionalism as various groups compete to fill the vacuum, along with widespread resent and the desire for revenge.
It’s not a healthy thing to call for. | |
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| Trump peace deal on 16:22 - Nov 23 with 1146 views | Luther27 |
With allies such as Trump, who needs enemies eh. | | | |
| Trump peace deal on 17:52 - Nov 23 with 1103 views | builthjack |
| Trump peace deal on 11:33 - Nov 23 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
Openly calling for political assassinations put people firmly into the extremist category.
It’s vile. |
I would prefer that no killings were happening.
But Putin and Trump don’t seem to mind it. Should power and money be allowed to kill people ? | |
| Swansea Indepenent Poster Of The Year 2021. Dr P / Mart66 / Roathie / Parlay / E20/ Duffle was 2nd, but he is deluded and thinks in his little twisted brain that he won. Poor sod. We let him win this year, as he has cried for a whole year. His 14 usernames, bless his cotton socks.
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