| Unigate Site - New Stadium 16:25 - Jun 29 with 4210 views | Gloucs_R |
Just seen a couple of posts on other sites talking about the Unigate Site being the home of our new stadium.
3 months ago a friend of mine spoke directly to TF about the stadium and TF said they were looking at this site. I didnt post anything becauase there was no real evidece to suggest it was going to happen. However, as the rumour mill is in full swing I thought I would let you know. |  |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:29 - Jun 29 with 3334 views | Juzzie |
I'm glad they're looking into it as a possibility but from other threads, many, many, threads, I seem to remember that there's possibilities of Westfield expanding north into there or housing to be built. Both will generate more money than a football ground being used 19-25 times a year.
The club will have to be very imaginative/persuasive to get that site and maybe even build some homes & commercial properties as part of the deal, as Arsenal did.
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:31 - Jun 29 with 3313 views | Gloucs_R |
Ideal place for a music venue. I can see weekly concerts there all though the summer. | |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:37 - Jun 29 with 3295 views | queensparker |
Where exactly is the Unigate site? The land next to Westfield where the Ocado delivery / Aston Martin places are?
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:53 - Jun 29 with 3232 views | real_loftus |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:29 - Jun 29 by Juzzie |
I'm glad they're looking into it as a possibility but from other threads, many, many, threads, I seem to remember that there's possibilities of Westfield expanding north into there or housing to be built. Both will generate more money than a football ground being used 19-25 times a year.
The club will have to be very imaginative/persuasive to get that site and maybe even build some homes & commercial properties as part of the deal, as Arsenal did.
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Surely the housing that would be built on the vacated Loftus Road site would be enough to win the council over? |  |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:59 - Jun 29 with 3213 views | nadera78 |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:53 - Jun 29 by real_loftus |
Surely the housing that would be built on the vacated Loftus Road site would be enough to win the council over? |
You'd need housing or some commercial buildings next to the new stadium to sell off and help reduce the costs. |  | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:17 - Jun 29 with 3138 views | themodfather |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:59 - Jun 29 by nadera78 |
You'd need housing or some commercial buildings next to the new stadium to sell off and help reduce the costs. |
after 2 fires the site is half demolished (saves costs) !
talk was always of a casino in ground....i'd assume it's a large site and space for other things there
for me, qpr need some atms at the ground, banks pay you for them....those at the tube stn are always oos....
the old loftus rd has a "covenant" about retaining a sports theme there..ok tennis court on roof of new homes! ....a new ground would need parking even with good rail links, which westfield users pay to use non matchdays =£££ | | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:19 - Jun 29 with 3132 views | Juzzie |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:17 - Jun 29 by themodfather |
after 2 fires the site is half demolished (saves costs) !
talk was always of a casino in ground....i'd assume it's a large site and space for other things there
for me, qpr need some atms at the ground, banks pay you for them....those at the tube stn are always oos....
the old loftus rd has a "covenant" about retaining a sports theme there..ok tennis court on roof of new homes! ....a new ground would need parking even with good rail links, which westfield users pay to use non matchdays =£££ |
Turn the Loftus Road site into a car park with a tennis court. Sorted.
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:20 - Jun 29 with 3128 views | N12Hoop |
I suspect one of the issues is that since the Westfield set up shop the area as a whole has seen a big rise in real estate values. Remember this is zone 2 with brilliant transport links. The Unigate site is far more attractive than Loftus Road since it isn't dominated by a large council estate with Ellerslie Road houses backing onto it as well. The old BBC site on the other side of the A40, currently being developed by Imperial College I think went for quite a lot of money I recall and so I'm not sure whether it is realistic to think QPR have a chance of securing this site unless the council really want us to and block other development plans. I also think the BBC building on Wood Lane is being vacated so that would mean masses of redevelopment within a few hundred yards. The area could change beyond all recognition in the next few years. Personally I hope we do get one of these sites, but commercially I'm not sure it would make sense to the council to have such a prime location taken over by a football club. |  |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:23 - Jun 29 with 3117 views | Juzzie |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:20 - Jun 29 by N12Hoop |
I suspect one of the issues is that since the Westfield set up shop the area as a whole has seen a big rise in real estate values. Remember this is zone 2 with brilliant transport links. The Unigate site is far more attractive than Loftus Road since it isn't dominated by a large council estate with Ellerslie Road houses backing onto it as well. The old BBC site on the other side of the A40, currently being developed by Imperial College I think went for quite a lot of money I recall and so I'm not sure whether it is realistic to think QPR have a chance of securing this site unless the council really want us to and block other development plans. I also think the BBC building on Wood Lane is being vacated so that would mean masses of redevelopment within a few hundred yards. The area could change beyond all recognition in the next few years. Personally I hope we do get one of these sites, but commercially I'm not sure it would make sense to the council to have such a prime location taken over by a football club. |
Indeed. There comes a time though when people have got to stop thinking about commerce being the only option. It's partly what has got this world in the schit as it is.
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:26 - Jun 29 with 3102 views | nadera78 |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:20 - Jun 29 by N12Hoop |
I suspect one of the issues is that since the Westfield set up shop the area as a whole has seen a big rise in real estate values. Remember this is zone 2 with brilliant transport links. The Unigate site is far more attractive than Loftus Road since it isn't dominated by a large council estate with Ellerslie Road houses backing onto it as well. The old BBC site on the other side of the A40, currently being developed by Imperial College I think went for quite a lot of money I recall and so I'm not sure whether it is realistic to think QPR have a chance of securing this site unless the council really want us to and block other development plans. I also think the BBC building on Wood Lane is being vacated so that would mean masses of redevelopment within a few hundred yards. The area could change beyond all recognition in the next few years. Personally I hope we do get one of these sites, but commercially I'm not sure it would make sense to the council to have such a prime location taken over by a football club. |
Imperial College bought the BBC Woodlands site for about 27million IIRC and are turning it into student accommodation. Both that and the Unigate are about 10 acres each so that could give you a guide price. Mind you, there is also the other bits of land connected to Unigate but owned by BBC, Helical Bar and Marks and Spencer. If they were included it would obviously increase the size, the price and also the potential development. | | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:29 - Jun 29 with 3097 views | nadera78 |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:17 - Jun 29 by themodfather |
after 2 fires the site is half demolished (saves costs) !
talk was always of a casino in ground....i'd assume it's a large site and space for other things there
for me, qpr need some atms at the ground, banks pay you for them....those at the tube stn are always oos....
the old loftus rd has a "covenant" about retaining a sports theme there..ok tennis court on roof of new homes! ....a new ground would need parking even with good rail links, which westfield users pay to use non matchdays =£££ |
Loftus Rd doesn't actually have a covenant on it. When we went into administration the previous Labour-run council promised that they would block any non-sporting usage, but there's nothing legally to stop any development. Plus, it's a different council these days so who knows what they might think of it. | | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:29 - Jun 29 with 3096 views | barbicanranger |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:20 - Jun 29 by N12Hoop |
I suspect one of the issues is that since the Westfield set up shop the area as a whole has seen a big rise in real estate values. Remember this is zone 2 with brilliant transport links. The Unigate site is far more attractive than Loftus Road since it isn't dominated by a large council estate with Ellerslie Road houses backing onto it as well. The old BBC site on the other side of the A40, currently being developed by Imperial College I think went for quite a lot of money I recall and so I'm not sure whether it is realistic to think QPR have a chance of securing this site unless the council really want us to and block other development plans. I also think the BBC building on Wood Lane is being vacated so that would mean masses of redevelopment within a few hundred yards. The area could change beyond all recognition in the next few years. Personally I hope we do get one of these sites, but commercially I'm not sure it would make sense to the council to have such a prime location taken over by a football club. |
Agree with this to a point but who would want houses that are boxed in between one of London's busiest roads and the central line tracks...personally, putting a football ground there and converting LR to houses would make more sense to the council... |  | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:04 - Jun 29 with 2853 views | secretranger |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:29 - Jun 29 by barbicanranger |
Agree with this to a point but who would want houses that are boxed in between one of London's busiest roads and the central line tracks...personally, putting a football ground there and converting LR to houses would make more sense to the council... |
The club is currently putting together a bid to purchase this site off Aviva and their development partners Helical Bar. Designs for an impressive stadium (two tiered - stands close to pitch) with other mixed uses are included in the bid. However there are other high profile bidders competing, and I rate QPR's chances of getting this site as less than 50/50. The preferred bidder is expected to be announced in August. Fingers crossed.
My favourite cheese is brie by the way
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:17 - Jun 29 with 2814 views | Gloucs_R |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:04 - Jun 29 by secretranger |
The club is currently putting together a bid to purchase this site off Aviva and their development partners Helical Bar. Designs for an impressive stadium (two tiered - stands close to pitch) with other mixed uses are included in the bid. However there are other high profile bidders competing, and I rate QPR's chances of getting this site as less than 50/50. The preferred bidder is expected to be announced in August. Fingers crossed.
My favourite cheese is brie by the way
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Interesting. Do you know who the other bidders are?
Has the club got fall back plans should this not come off? | |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:18 - Jun 29 with 2811 views | loftboy |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:04 - Jun 29 by secretranger |
The club is currently putting together a bid to purchase this site off Aviva and their development partners Helical Bar. Designs for an impressive stadium (two tiered - stands close to pitch) with other mixed uses are included in the bid. However there are other high profile bidders competing, and I rate QPR's chances of getting this site as less than 50/50. The preferred bidder is expected to be announced in August. Fingers crossed.
My favourite cheese is brie by the way
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:29 - Jun 29 with 2779 views | secretranger |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:17 - Jun 29 by Gloucs_R |
Interesting. Do you know who the other bidders are?
Has the club got fall back plans should this not come off? |
I do know who one of the other bidders is but I'm not going to say. There may be more but I dont know. Dont know if Chelsea are interested.
This is the preferred site. There are other options locally but not sure how achievable they are. | | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:36 - Jun 29 with 2764 views | Gloucs_R |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:29 - Jun 29 by secretranger |
I do know who one of the other bidders is but I'm not going to say. There may be more but I dont know. Dont know if Chelsea are interested.
This is the preferred site. There are other options locally but not sure how achievable they are. |
Chelsea wouldnt be allowed to move that close to us. I think if it fails then its over to Park Royal. | |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:41 - Jun 29 with 2749 views | DWQPR |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:29 - Jun 29 by secretranger |
I do know who one of the other bidders is but I'm not going to say. There may be more but I dont know. Dont know if Chelsea are interested.
This is the preferred site. There are other options locally but not sure how achievable they are. |
Looking on google earth, the current Stamford Bridge site doesnt look that much different in size to the Unigate site. I would imagine that Chel*** would want a bigger site than this, just look how big Battersea Power Station site is in comparison. Although it looks like they wont get this site, isn't the Olympia site being demolished soon? Also as just pointed out I suspect that there is indeed an FA rule about encroaching on other teams areas. And the final issue for Chel*** is the CPO, who are very reluctant to sign over the covenant of the Stamford Bridge pitch to the Russian bloke. | |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 21:48 - Jun 29 with 2737 views | EastR |
With all due respect to the OP...
"no real evidece to suggest it was going to happen. However, as the rumour mill is in full swing I thought I would let you know."
i.e. add to it | |
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| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 22:01 - Jun 29 with 2698 views | Sudbury_Hill_R |
The massive Glaxo site between Sudbury Hill and Greenford stations is vacant. I know there is talk of a school at the south end, but not sure about the rest of it. It even has its own large two storie car park. Good travel links, tube, road, National Rail |  | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 22:20 - Jun 29 with 2664 views | SpiritofGregory |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 22:01 - Jun 29 by Sudbury_Hill_R |
The massive Glaxo site between Sudbury Hill and Greenford stations is vacant. I know there is talk of a school at the south end, but not sure about the rest of it. It even has its own large two storie car park. Good travel links, tube, road, National Rail |
That's too far out. We are an urban West London Club. If we can't get the Unigate site then we should go for the Scrubs, if we can't get that then go for the Park Club in Acton, failing that go for a site in Park Royal.
I'm really not interested in us building a stadium in places such as Hayes, Greenford, Norholt, Southall, Ruslip etc. |  | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 00:41 - Jun 30 with 2525 views | jc_hoops |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 17:29 - Jun 29 by barbicanranger |
Agree with this to a point but who would want houses that are boxed in between one of London's busiest roads and the central line tracks...personally, putting a football ground there and converting LR to houses would make more sense to the council... |
The council built the flats along the A40 where they knocked all the houses down for the East Acton flyover, which was later bined by Labour. funny thing was, it was suppose to be to noisy and polluted to allow new housing to be built there, but the council managed it somehow!!
So, if they want something, the local council will push it through, and I think a prem football club currently associated with multi billionaires is a big plus for the council, especally if the scum move south of the river.
A stadium done right these days can provide a huge influx of cash to surrounding stores, especally kebab shops after the game/pub  |  | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 01:27 - Jun 30 with 2492 views | SpiritofGregory |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 00:41 - Jun 30 by jc_hoops |
The council built the flats along the A40 where they knocked all the houses down for the East Acton flyover, which was later bined by Labour. funny thing was, it was suppose to be to noisy and polluted to allow new housing to be built there, but the council managed it somehow!!
So, if they want something, the local council will push it through, and I think a prem football club currently associated with multi billionaires is a big plus for the council, especally if the scum move south of the river.
A stadium done right these days can provide a huge influx of cash to surrounding stores, especally kebab shops after the game/pub |
Yes, the Council won't want to cut ties with Fernandes and Mittal(fourth richest man in the world). I'm sure they've noticed that we're in the process of constructing a state of the art training ground in the Borough of Ealing which also benefits that local community.
I noticed that acquiring the site and planning permission from Ealing Council was a piece of cake... Hammersmith and Fulham will want Loftus Rd for social housing, if they want it they'll have to give something in return. | | | |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 12:04 - Jun 30 with 2278 views | NorthLondonR |
| Unigate Site - New Stadium on 16:29 - Jun 29 by Juzzie |
I'm glad they're looking into it as a possibility but from other threads, many, many, threads, I seem to remember that there's possibilities of Westfield expanding north into there or housing to be built. Both will generate more money than a football ground being used 19-25 times a year.
The club will have to be very imaginative/persuasive to get that site and maybe even build some homes & commercial properties as part of the deal, as Arsenal did.
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Or could go down the Arsenal route and just bury a few councilors under the foundations |  | | |
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