| Attendance League 09:08 - May 21 with 3146 views | yorkshirefan |
We are hardly in a position to gloat, but it reads even worse for our neighbours
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-22541130 |  | | |  |
| Attendance League on 11:10 - May 21 with 2973 views | DorsetDale |
Sorry off topic, but. I notice to the right of that page is a link to the Irish "potato famine" In the interests of balance, anyone interested in reading that page should also take a good look at this; http://www.irishholocaust.org/
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| Attendance League on 11:55 - May 21 with 2897 views | D_Alien |
| Attendance League on 11:10 - May 21 by DorsetDale |
Sorry off topic, but. I notice to the right of that page is a link to the Irish "potato famine" In the interests of balance, anyone interested in reading that page should also take a good look at this; http://www.irishholocaust.org/
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I'm a descendant of an Irish immigrant during the famine years, but I regard myself as English as they come.
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| Attendance League on 12:37 - May 21 with 2822 views | fermin |
| Attendance League on 11:55 - May 21 by D_Alien |
I'm a descendant of an Irish immigrant during the famine years, but I regard myself as English as they come.
However, nothing surprises me. |
Despite what the author seems to imply (I have only flicked through it) it is hardly a secret that food was exported out of Ireland for commercial reasons during the famine, aid was not forthcoming from the British Government to avoid creating a 'benefit culture' in Ireland and landowners were largely Protestant and not well-disposed towards Catholics.
From the article's tone I suspect the author is only interested in using sources that support his agenda (ie he is not trying to be historically objective so, for example, he takes the Nassau Senior quote out of context), but most of what happened during the famine is well-known. Not a glorious period of British/English history, but hardly a secret. This is probably a more objective source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29
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| Attendance League on 12:54 - May 21 with 2792 views | D_Alien |
| Attendance League on 12:37 - May 21 by fermin |
Despite what the author seems to imply (I have only flicked through it) it is hardly a secret that food was exported out of Ireland for commercial reasons during the famine, aid was not forthcoming from the British Government to avoid creating a 'benefit culture' in Ireland and landowners were largely Protestant and not well-disposed towards Catholics.
From the article's tone I suspect the author is only interested in using sources that support his agenda (ie he is not trying to be historically objective so, for example, he takes the Nassau Senior quote out of context), but most of what happened during the famine is well-known. Not a glorious period of British/English history, but hardly a secret. This is probably a more objective source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29
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I agree (its part of my family's folk memory) and if the English (British) government at the time had a real problem with Irish/Celtic ethnicity they wouldn't have allowed the huge influx from Ireland into the desperately poor northern mill towns such as Rochdale, where riots occurred between the existing population and the immigrants who threatened their jobs, rates of pay and whatever horrendous housing was available. The area around Packer St wasn't much better than those conditions described in Liverpool. | |
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| Attendance League on 13:11 - May 21 with 2762 views | downunder |
| Attendance League on 12:54 - May 21 by D_Alien |
I agree (its part of my family's folk memory) and if the English (British) government at the time had a real problem with Irish/Celtic ethnicity they wouldn't have allowed the huge influx from Ireland into the desperately poor northern mill towns such as Rochdale, where riots occurred between the existing population and the immigrants who threatened their jobs, rates of pay and whatever horrendous housing was available. The area around Packer St wasn't much better than those conditions described in Liverpool. |
As bad as a Palace dressing room?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22606048 |  | | |
| Attendance League on 13:11 - May 21 with 2762 views | downunder |
| Attendance League on 12:54 - May 21 by D_Alien |
I agree (its part of my family's folk memory) and if the English (British) government at the time had a real problem with Irish/Celtic ethnicity they wouldn't have allowed the huge influx from Ireland into the desperately poor northern mill towns such as Rochdale, where riots occurred between the existing population and the immigrants who threatened their jobs, rates of pay and whatever horrendous housing was available. The area around Packer St wasn't much better than those conditions described in Liverpool. |
double post edit [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Attendance League on 13:11 - May 21 with 2760 views | downunder |
| Attendance League on 12:54 - May 21 by D_Alien |
I agree (its part of my family's folk memory) and if the English (British) government at the time had a real problem with Irish/Celtic ethnicity they wouldn't have allowed the huge influx from Ireland into the desperately poor northern mill towns such as Rochdale, where riots occurred between the existing population and the immigrants who threatened their jobs, rates of pay and whatever horrendous housing was available. The area around Packer St wasn't much better than those conditions described in Liverpool. |
triple post edit FFS [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Attendance League on 14:42 - May 21 with 2685 views | DorsetDale |
| Attendance League on 12:37 - May 21 by fermin |
Despite what the author seems to imply (I have only flicked through it) it is hardly a secret that food was exported out of Ireland for commercial reasons during the famine, aid was not forthcoming from the British Government to avoid creating a 'benefit culture' in Ireland and landowners were largely Protestant and not well-disposed towards Catholics.
From the article's tone I suspect the author is only interested in using sources that support his agenda (ie he is not trying to be historically objective so, for example, he takes the Nassau Senior quote out of context), but most of what happened during the famine is well-known. Not a glorious period of British/English history, but hardly a secret. This is probably a more objective source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Famine_%28Ireland%29
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Fermin it's quite evident that you are a knowledgeable chap but to state it is hardly a secret is a little naïve. Very few people would have garnered any real education on the matter at school and even less would have been interested enough to search history to find out! Also please explain what you mean by "commercial reasons". As for that wiki link, I stopped reading when it said a third of the population was entirely dependent on the potato - a blatant lie!! As far as being historically objective, there's a whole website thoroughly researched which, as you say, you have only flicked through.
Edit, just realised you meant commercial gain for Britain in selling the excess. I firstly thought you meant the Irish gained, sorry. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Attendance League on 15:04 - May 21 with 2655 views | olympicdale |
It does give hope to teams like us, that Yeovil, with an average crowd of just over 4000 can make it to the Championship.
It would be interesting to know our average attendance in Hills last season. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
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| Attendance League on 19:11 - May 21 with 2488 views | D_Alien |
A few quick calculations reveals the following:
Average gates over ten year periods -
2004-2013: 3048
1994-2003: 2505
1984-1993: 2001
1974-1983: 1769
Over the last three decades, the Dale have seen average home league gates increase by around 500 per decade. Should be a great next 10 years!
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| Attendance League on 19:11 - May 21 with 2488 views | D_Alien |
Double doodah
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