| Can't wait for the fans to come back 15:35 - Sep 3 with 1963 views | Pikey |
So we can p..s them off with a digital season ticket mess, make it impossible to get a beer before tgd fame, half time service crap then mess up completely on the Reading tickets.
Just as well we are unbeaten otherwise I fead the anger on here would have been greater.
Sort it out R's and show us you are happy to have us back. |  | | |  |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 15:40 - Sep 3 with 1935 views | stainrods_elbow |
This! As I've repeatedly written, fans are in many ways the 'abused children' of football (constantly told how special and important we are, but treated like inconveniences or worse). The selling of seats filled with facsmilies of ourselves during lockdown is something even Baudrillard couldn't have made up. That some fans even collude with it (like those sad little monkeys who cling to wire versions of their mothers in scientific experiments) is another layer of footballing meta-fiction yet again. MInd you, the more it's converted into theatre, the more it will be about the creation of illusions. It's bleakly fascinating in its way. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 15:42]
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| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 15:51 - Sep 3 with 1900 views | PinnerPaul |
Still, at least it gives people something to moan about until we're rubbish again eh?  | | | |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 16:21 - Sep 3 with 1832 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 15:40 - Sep 3 by stainrods_elbow |
This! As I've repeatedly written, fans are in many ways the 'abused children' of football (constantly told how special and important we are, but treated like inconveniences or worse). The selling of seats filled with facsmilies of ourselves during lockdown is something even Baudrillard couldn't have made up. That some fans even collude with it (like those sad little monkeys who cling to wire versions of their mothers in scientific experiments) is another layer of footballing meta-fiction yet again. MInd you, the more it's converted into theatre, the more it will be about the creation of illusions. It's bleakly fascinating in its way. [Post edited 3 Sep 2021 15:42]
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Can't get angry about the cardboard fans. It brought some money into the club and gave fans a way to do it.
Far more things to get annoyed at than that imo. |  |
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| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 17:47 - Sep 3 with 1719 views | Logman |
Give the club a break. They've had drastically reduced income for over a season, they have invested heavily in the team and kept season ticket prices the same (for existing season ticket holders). Give them a break. | | | |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 21:02 - Sep 3 with 1549 views | stainrods_elbow |
I wasn't particularly knocking the club, more pointing out the projected illusion that we fans matter. Perhaps - probably - to love modern pro football you have to be cynical enough to learn to love deception as part of the 'game', and I'm the foolishly earnest one (or 'romantic', as Clive labels me) always outside the in-joke. | |
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| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 21:30 - Sep 3 with 1514 views | nix |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 21:02 - Sep 3 by stainrods_elbow |
I wasn't particularly knocking the club, more pointing out the projected illusion that we fans matter. Perhaps - probably - to love modern pro football you have to be cynical enough to learn to love deception as part of the 'game', and I'm the foolishly earnest one (or 'romantic', as Clive labels me) always outside the in-joke. |
Or you just look on the bright side? Try not to search for the cynical angle? Focus on Sterling celebrating his mate rather than the hate filled racists. Think of Rob Dickie and his thunderbastard rather than ticketing issues. Picture Barbet's face after he scored on the follow up, rather than ruminating on financial fair play.
Yep we sometimes can't avoid it or stop ourselves having opinions. But all in all I'd rather listen to Andy Sinton, who hasn't got a cynical bone in his body, than dwell on the Mel Morris's or anyone else who wants to rig the system.
Obviously our players want to earn a decent wedge, and they want to win. But it's the least mercenary bunch we've had in years. We've got a manager who puts integrity at the heart of everything he does. We've won awards for our work in the community.
Why is the right time now to see the negatives?.. |  | | |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 06:39 - Sep 11 with 1184 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 21:30 - Sep 3 by nix |
Or you just look on the bright side? Try not to search for the cynical angle? Focus on Sterling celebrating his mate rather than the hate filled racists. Think of Rob Dickie and his thunderbastard rather than ticketing issues. Picture Barbet's face after he scored on the follow up, rather than ruminating on financial fair play.
Yep we sometimes can't avoid it or stop ourselves having opinions. But all in all I'd rather listen to Andy Sinton, who hasn't got a cynical bone in his body, than dwell on the Mel Morris's or anyone else who wants to rig the system.
Obviously our players want to earn a decent wedge, and they want to win. But it's the least mercenary bunch we've had in years. We've got a manager who puts integrity at the heart of everything he does. We've won awards for our work in the community.
Why is the right time now to see the negatives?.. |
All fair comment, though Sints isn't averse to talking up the value of the dark arts (when it's us doing them) in his comms. Football, and footballers, aren't all bad - it's just that so much of it feels so much less real (to me at least) than it did! | |
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| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 08:41 - Sep 11 with 1061 views | nix |
| Can't wait for the fans to come back on 06:39 - Sep 11 by stainrods_elbow |
All fair comment, though Sints isn't averse to talking up the value of the dark arts (when it's us doing them) in his comms. Football, and footballers, aren't all bad - it's just that so much of it feels so much less real (to me at least) than it did! |
It's not the world that's got worse it's how you perceive the world that's changed.
The past wasn't some golden time. Black players had bananas thrown at them. Players with alcoholism or gambling addiction were egged on rather than sent to rehab or therapy. Chelscum coaches (allegedly) screamed at and physically abused academy players with impunity. Brown envelopes were rife. Coaches that sexually abused young players were quietly moved on to another club. Football violence was forever in the news. Jim Davidson, Michael Barrymore and the Black and White Minstrel show were what passed for Saturday night TV.
You can choose to look back and only see the good. You can choose to see only the negatives in today's football. But it's not football now that's so negative. It's just how you see it. | | | |
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