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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by TacticalR at 22:59:06
Thanks for your report.
A good point that this game was a continuation of the Southampton game, only this time Sheffield United declared at half time. It feels like we can't stop opposition goals, and we can't score.
Obviously all sorts of things wrong, which have been endlessly discussed on the forum. QPR are in a bad situation, and have tried to fashion various modes of escape, such as the development and the resale model, without much success. The development model was the bone of contention with Warburton (and we knew that Warburton was well-disposed to youth development before arriving at QPR, so if he couldn't make it work it was unlikely anyone else could). The resale model had been derailed by our numerous injuries.
One thing Andy Sinton kept saying during the commentary (and as Marshy said), was that there was nobody for the defenders to pass to, so they kept reverting to long, hopeful balls. We could get away with this when we had Burrell, but not without him. There is not enough movement off the ball to create realistic options for passes. We are not playing as a unit.
I am guessing that Stéphan is getting frustrated as he doesn't have many levers to pull. |
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by W9R at 18:39:27
Thank you for, well, putting together some nice words around a memory probably best dispatched to some part of the brain usually reserved for all events after the 4th pint of Guinness. No one will take you to task for this not looking like a game where a slightly different selection would have been transformative and removing Esquerdinha from the scene of the crime was a genuine act of kindness for all 18,000 or so in the area, but what was the logic of bringing on Smyth for the falling over on his knees act and moving Vale to left back when the bench had Cook and Mbengue champing at the bit?
Well played that pigeon, 8/10 for doing what pigeons do.
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by Marshy at 12:04:47
If I was QPR Manager and I picked Varane (although I wouldn’t unless I had to to), I’d be saying to him - pass the ball backwards and you get fined a weeks wages. Just think of all the money he’d owe us. This typifies the negative attitude of the team as a whole. We just don’t fight to get the ball. We don’t run to support players who have the ball. There were many examples against Sheffield Utd where we had possession, but were forced into a blind alley because of a lack of options to enable a pass.
I can’t understand with our decimated midfield why JS doesn’t put Ronnie Edwards in central defensive midfield. I personally would have gone with 3 at the back, and a midfield trio of Hayden, Edwards and Morgan. Add in 2 wing backs - Mbengue and Esqerdinha (but of course only as RND not available), and at least we might have had a chance of dominating the midfield and getting the ball forward decisively more often.
Onto Middlesbrough then with 7 goals conceded in 2 matches with none scored. Things can be unpredictable in life, but not as a QPR supporter, as unfortunately you always know what’s just around the corner. |
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by tsbains64 at 11:58:22
That was a glorious ball from Morgan for Smyth . Loved the way he stood up to the Sheff UTD player Hes has the passion Future looks good for us with him in the side Just give him a run
Kudos to the ref for explaining the decision about the off side goal to the dug out but agree they let that off 9 times out of 10
They were better than us , simple as that
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by Sittingbournehoop at 11:48:02
I think the manager will be looking for an exit within a year and too many players just not good enough. Varane’s only forward pass all game was criminal laying on a goal for the opposition. Bennie hardly touched the ball, Saito looked fragile and totally of the pace, and Esquerdinha hopelessly out of his depth. What’s so depressing is the total lack of progress, we just don’t seem to improve year on year, and another season that I can’t wait to come to an end! We should be safe from relegation which is as good as it gets really. |
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by Oxfordhoop at 11:19:45
I think you are right about Julian getting "QPRd". That is the most negative and resigned I've seen him all season. Suddenly talking about needing 4 points to avoid relegation. Not looking good. |
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Comment | Sunrise, sunset – Report
by Phildo at 08:15:56
Nail on head here.
Just wondering what the Non football focused CEOs do at all the other clubs? Cricket maybe? Imagine where we would be if ours wasn't football focused! |
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Comment | Warnock's QPR at their best - History
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Comment | Bogey Blades await Rangers' return after midweek mauling - Preview
by TacticalR at 12:47:16
Thanks for your preview.
@Myke, I took Northernr to mean that if he had written his report immediately then it would have been one enormous rant (and would possibly have demoralised everyone even further)? Or did I misunderstand?
I do feel that Stéphan should have factored in the behaviour of drunken German cruise ship passengers at the Premier Inn Westquay.
As for the friends of Nourry, as far as I can tell there don't seem to be that many of them on this forum, and the ones that are seem quite...mechanical.
Anyway, back to the football. With all the injuries it feels like our season has run aground, so not a great time to be meeting Sheffield United (or anyone else). But then, as QPR_Hibs points out, QPR are a complete unknown. |
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Comment | Five-star Saints whitewash wretched Rangers – Report
by TacticalR at 23:54:13
Thanks for your report, which once again can't have been easy to write.
I was out on Tuesday, so missed this game, and I am trying to piece together what happened. Looking at the highlights it just felt like almost every Southampton chance went in (they missed a couple). Anyway, thank you for helping to make sense of it.
The terrible stats are piling up, and do suggest that we are on life support in the Championship unless something dramatic changes. Having said that, this season has not been as traumatic as recent seasons, as we started off better and are working our way down, rather than starting off at the bottom and working our way up (although you can say it fits a pattern as we make our way to 16th).
In answer to qprbenjamin163's comment I feel we are something of a patchwork team, with an odd mix of players and lacking an overall style and ethos (despite all the talk of game models and methodology).
One final point. Despite the vulnerability of our defence I have felt all season that a lot of our problems are in attack. After all attack is a form of defence. This is what I said after our home game against Southampton earlier in the season:
'There is something so frustrating, unconvincing and ponderous about our play, especially when you get the feeling that none of our attacks is going to lead to a goal. It means when the opposition scores first the game is pretty much over (an early opposition goal is a complete hammer blow).' |
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Comment | Bogey Blades await Rangers' return after midweek mauling - Preview
by NewYorkRanger at 22:55:53
we didn't choose it did we? But we could choose not to choose it any more. But we don't.
At my Dad's funeral, I said a bit about the QPR curse he handed down to me - it was tongue in cheek, and said as a light hearted break from the solemness of the occasion.
But it's also true. I was and am gutted. About him not being around and us not being able to talk about how crap we are. And also proud. It's who we are. We can't change it. And even if I could I wouldn't.
Go well everybody x
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Comment | Bogey Blades await Rangers' return after midweek mauling - Preview
by Myke at 22:55:13
“To be honest on nights like that and in this environment, I’m scared to say what I actually think about QPR”. This is the most disturbing sentence I have read on any Loftforwords Thread. My first instinct is ‘please Clive, don’t let them silence you’. Then I realise how incredibly selfish this is. Your physical safety and mental health are the main priority here - do what you must to protect both. We are starting to live in a very scary world. |
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Comment | New official for Oxford visit – Referee
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Comment | QPR seek home comforts after Norwich slip – Preview
by RobbyThacher at 09:23:19
Tough result for QPR last time out, and getting back to winning ways at home will be crucial. It’ll be interesting to see how they respond mentally and tactically, especially in midfield battles and pressing transitions.
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Comment | Five-star Saints whitewash wretched Rangers – Report
by PastCaringNW2 at 00:17:47
That's a great report. Spot-on across the board.
I have been a season ticket holder since 1995-96. How many of the subsequent 30 seasons would you rate as being good to very good?
I am thinking half a dozen at a pinch. Two under Warbs (?), one under Francis, two (maybe three) under Holloway, one under Warnock.
However glorious the finale I simply can't count the Redknapp / Austin season as a good one. Other than the play-offs it was a horrible watch at the best of times and the end result was the sporting equivalent of a record company buying a single into the charts and it dropping out again the following week.
Even that 1996 relegation season qualifies for my top ten. Half a dozen narrow defeats and a bunch of unfortunate score draws at home combined with a scandalously negligent ownership who thought the answer to a misfiring attack was to sell Bradley Allen going into the run in and not replace him. Our general uselessness away from home could have been easily survived had the home form been just a smidge less deficient.
That 1996 team at least made a fist of it, despite the appalling transfer business, built around a solid, tenacious but creatively challenged fulcrum of Holloway and Barker (with occasionally useful input from Wilkins and Quashie) . Relegation was horrible but we went down with hope and I am not sure that team was ever truly embarrassed in the ways that you describe in your report. Even then fans stayed away. Sell outs and near sell outs against the bigger clubs generally relied on there being a lot of away fans sat in SA Road.
That was a club sold short by its own custodians knowing that Chris Wright was itching to give them his money regardless as to which division they were going to be in come August. To my mind we've never fully recovered. We would have done but two literally golden opportunities were thoroughly squandered, good players were sold on the cheap, terrible ones bought for serious money and bundles of cash thrown at big names at (or really beyond) the end of their careers. This was not the case in one or two years but multiple years under different owners and with enough managers / head coaches hired and fired along the way to fill a jury box twice over.
So the fact that I still think of that 95-96 season as being "good" tells its own tale. The rot set in right there and arguably the drastic surgery required is still ahead of us thirty years on. |
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Comment | Five-star Saints whitewash wretched Rangers – Report
by BushRanger82 at 22:17:54
It's all so very depressing, isn't it?
A club making the same mistakes every season, never learning, just forgetting and moving on, and repeating the process over, and over, and over, again, ad finitum.
Scary thing is, we do this every year, injury crisis, or no injury crisis.
Poor standards, and a distinct lack of winning mentality, is killing us. |
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