| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:04 - Mar 2 with 3801 views | QPunkR |
Bit of a fúcking joke, innit?? |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:05 - Mar 2 with 3795 views | toboboly |
From that article they really shouldn't be calling a strike over this issue. Luckily at least the game is over by then so people can get away without any issues. |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:08 - Mar 2 with 3774 views | Antti_Heinola |
I'm always ready to listen to the RMT when they have genuine grievances, which sometimes they do. But not only does this seem ludicrous, but this:
LU said the number of drivers who had voted to take strike action represented 8% of all drivers.
is an utter nonsense. The law must be changed for strike action. I'm not saying they need 100% of drivers to vote, but there should be a minimum requirement of, say, 50%, and a two-thirds majority to carry it. |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:14 - Mar 2 with 3758 views | simmo |
Piss take |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:23 - Mar 2 with 3732 views | danehoop |
Anti,
irrespective of the apparent nonsense with this issue behind this strike action, I disagree whole heartedly with your notions of determining when and who can strike.
It has to be on the basis of the majority of those who vote. If people chose not to vote that is there perogative to do so - the key is ensuring that the process is in place around the vote so that all those eligiable can do so. |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:27 - Mar 2 with 3716 views | Rs_Holy |
apparently its a very stressful job!... That's why they get 50 + days holiday a year! [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 23:06]
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:56 - Mar 2 with 3675 views | nadera78 |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:08 - Mar 2 by Antti_Heinola |
I'm always ready to listen to the RMT when they have genuine grievances, which sometimes they do. But not only does this seem ludicrous, but this:
LU said the number of drivers who had voted to take strike action represented 8% of all drivers.
is an utter nonsense. The law must be changed for strike action. I'm not saying they need 100% of drivers to vote, but there should be a minimum requirement of, say, 50%, and a two-thirds majority to carry it. |
I'll go along with 50% voting for strike action if that also applies to MPs being elected, or salaries for directors of PLCs. |  | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 11:04 - Mar 2 with 3653 views | JonDoeman |
Shouldn't be allowed to strike, & hold the city to ransom. Whens them driverless trains coming? |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 12:19 - Mar 2 with 3555 views | bigstevec |
They constantly bleat on about passenger safety but walk out in support of a drunk driver! |  | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 12:37 - Mar 2 with 3508 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Tube worker here.
There is more to this story than meets the eye so hold back on the abuse.
Also, most RMT drivers will be in work (if the strike goes ahead which I doubt) so there will be minimum disruption but some gaps between trains.
We'll be fine. [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 12:37]
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:33 - Mar 2 with 3385 views | toboboly |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 12:37 - Mar 2 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Tube worker here.
There is more to this story than meets the eye so hold back on the abuse.
Also, most RMT drivers will be in work (if the strike goes ahead which I doubt) so there will be minimum disruption but some gaps between trains.
We'll be fine. [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 12:37]
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Is there any background you can give to shed light on why this is occurring? | |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:43 - Mar 2 with 3362 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:33 - Mar 2 by toboboly |
Is there any background you can give to shed light on why this is occurring? |
Basically, driver failed a alcohol test. Rumours around the place was that he was probably pissed and his immediate manager who checks for these things before anyone sets foot near a train suspected alcohol on his breath and stood him down.
LU (rightly) has a zero tolerance policy towards alcohol at work and sacked him.
However, he is also diabetic and the test method used was susceptible to giving false readings to diabetics. The RMT (the smaller of the two unions drivers join) has claimed that there is no way of knowing for sure wether he was drunk or not. They are going to fight for him because that's their job.
To add fuel to the fire he was also a union activist so the RMT are claiming politics.
The general consensus from staff, including drivers is that strike action is too rash and they will most likely come in. | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:46 - Mar 2 with 3352 views | Sudbury_Hill_R |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:33 - Mar 2 by toboboly |
Is there any background you can give to shed light on why this is occurring? |
Very basically the RMT are stating that the two failed alcohol tests were flawed as the Train Operator has diabetes. LUL works on a zero tolerance basis for alcohol breath tests. They also do a urine test for drugs, medication etc.
The RMT Assistant General Secretary does not cover himself in any glory in a recent interview on LBC Radio. Have a listen.
http://www.lbc.co.uk/rmt-boss-loses-the-plot-on-lbc-over-tube-strike-104734 |  | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 14:01 - Mar 2 with 3319 views | simmo |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:43 - Mar 2 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Basically, driver failed a alcohol test. Rumours around the place was that he was probably pissed and his immediate manager who checks for these things before anyone sets foot near a train suspected alcohol on his breath and stood him down.
LU (rightly) has a zero tolerance policy towards alcohol at work and sacked him.
However, he is also diabetic and the test method used was susceptible to giving false readings to diabetics. The RMT (the smaller of the two unions drivers join) has claimed that there is no way of knowing for sure wether he was drunk or not. They are going to fight for him because that's their job.
To add fuel to the fire he was also a union activist so the RMT are claiming politics.
The general consensus from staff, including drivers is that strike action is too rash and they will most likely come in. |
'London Underground said the man was dismissed for failing two breath tests which were unaffected by the condition.
It said the case had gone through a full disciplinary hearing and appeals process, as well as a separate independent director's review.'
Regardless of the facts in this instance, the continued negative press and frivolous threats to strike are going to do individuals working on the trains no good when it comes to the plans of the mayor and whoever else to phase them out or reduce their numbers. Which seems a shame as I am fundementally in support of organisations that protect the rights of the individual, it just seems the unions are perceived to be as bad as the 'fat cat' corporation members they are supposed to be challenging. [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 14:05]
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 14:08 - Mar 2 with 3293 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 14:01 - Mar 2 by simmo |
'London Underground said the man was dismissed for failing two breath tests which were unaffected by the condition.
It said the case had gone through a full disciplinary hearing and appeals process, as well as a separate independent director's review.'
Regardless of the facts in this instance, the continued negative press and frivolous threats to strike are going to do individuals working on the trains no good when it comes to the plans of the mayor and whoever else to phase them out or reduce their numbers. Which seems a shame as I am fundementally in support of organisations that protect the rights of the individual, it just seems the unions are perceived to be as bad as the 'fat cat' corporation members they are supposed to be challenging. [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 14:05]
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It is the initial method which leads on to a urine test.
Not defending him or the RMT by the way. The strike was called by a narrow margin on a 42% return of ballots cast. If all the abstainers had put their vote it it would have been massively rejected.
Also there are three main unions in terms of the Underground. One of which has called strike action only once in 82 years.
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 19:49 - Mar 2 with 3107 views | Stanisgod |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 11:04 - Mar 2 by JonDoeman |
Shouldn't be allowed to strike, & hold the city to ransom. Whens them driverless trains coming? |
F@ck me, Maggies back from the dead! |  |
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 19:57 - Mar 2 with 3085 views | richranger |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 13:43 - Mar 2 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Basically, driver failed a alcohol test. Rumours around the place was that he was probably pissed and his immediate manager who checks for these things before anyone sets foot near a train suspected alcohol on his breath and stood him down.
LU (rightly) has a zero tolerance policy towards alcohol at work and sacked him.
However, he is also diabetic and the test method used was susceptible to giving false readings to diabetics. The RMT (the smaller of the two unions drivers join) has claimed that there is no way of knowing for sure wether he was drunk or not. They are going to fight for him because that's their job.
To add fuel to the fire he was also a union activist so the RMT are claiming politics.
The general consensus from staff, including drivers is that strike action is too rash and they will most likely come in. |
A friend of mine who works on the tube told me the guy could hardly stand up he was so drunk.
Pointless strike | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 20:13 - Mar 2 with 3059 views | WilloW4 |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 19:49 - Mar 2 by Stanisgod |
F@ck me, Maggies back from the dead! |
Feck me, he's was blind drunk (allegedly)... !! You wanna be on that pricks train?! |  | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 22:34 - Mar 2 with 2918 views | Stanisgod |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 20:13 - Mar 2 by WilloW4 |
Feck me, he's was blind drunk (allegedly)... !! You wanna be on that pricks train?! |
Someone explain please, I'm assuming he's under
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| Tube Strike Saturday on 22:53 - Mar 2 with 2895 views | smegma |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 10:27 - Mar 2 by Rs_Holy |
apparently its a very stressful job!... That's why they get 50 + days holiday a year! [Post edited 2 Mar 2015 23:06]
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Apply for a job then. | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 22:55 - Mar 2 with 2891 views | smegma |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 19:57 - Mar 2 by richranger |
A friend of mine who works on the tube told me the guy could hardly stand up he was so drunk.
Pointless strike |
Where does your friend work and what job do they do ??? | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:08 - Mar 2 with 2869 views | smegma |
As a tube worker and an RMT member I find this strike a bit odd. LU has a more or less zero tolerance on alcohol. The driver has admitted the night before he was due to work he had drunk four pints while watching a world cup football match on tv. He claims he had his last drink some 12 hours before his shift started. LU guidance on the subject says normally you shouldnt drink less than 8 hours before starting work.Thats not 100% certain but based on medical guidance. The driver claims his medical condition diabetes must have affected the alcohol readings. If I was diabetic and knew the condition could possibly affect my job future, i would not have drunk ANYTHING the night before an early shift. It appears that the driver is a union activist, i.e. is an active union member and is well known among the RMT hierarchy. THIS is the main reason I believe the union is backing him. If that was ME, i dont believe the RMT would have backed me as they dont know me and they would say 'its a fair cop'. If I was over the limit I would just have to take it on the chin as would thousands of other staff but because hes mates with those in the know, people are asked to strike on his behalf. And for that reason alone i believe the strike is wrong. | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:10 - Mar 2 with 2866 views | Rs_Holy |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 22:53 - Mar 2 by smegma |
Apply for a job then. |
Is it still the case that you can't be a train driver and wear glasses? | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:18 - Mar 2 with 2852 views | smegma |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:10 - Mar 2 by Rs_Holy |
Is it still the case that you can't be a train driver and wear glasses? |
No idea, first ive ever heard of that. There are two tube tube drivers who post on here and some other staff who may know. | | | |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:23 - Mar 2 with 2844 views | Sudbury_Hill_R |
| Tube Strike Saturday on 23:10 - Mar 2 by Rs_Holy |
Is it still the case that you can't be a train driver and wear glasses? |
Not sure that's a tongue in cheek question or a genuine one?
Of course you can wear glasses to drive a tube, exactly the same as any transport. But you have to carry a spare pair in case of loss or damage.
And it's 43 days leave for Train Operator but if you take off Bank Holidays as most others get but tube staff don't, somewhere around 34 (can't be arsed to count them), better than most jobs but not hugely over the top compared to other professions. | | | |
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