| Brighton & Hove Albion 09:08 - Jan 15 with 4443 views | PlanetHonneywood |
After watching the Manchester Derby, I stayed chatting to a chap in my local, and we ended up watching BHA's game against Liverpool. Glad I did, brilliant performance from the Seagulls.
Early 90s I was living in Brighton, and had a couple of Fulham chums come down for a match at the decrepit Goldstone Ground. That was in the third division. And it wasn't that long ago we were playing them outside the Prem at an even worse ground, and frankly, BHA weren't much to write home about for much if the last 30 years either.
Yesterday was the first time I've watched them in years. Their side has a World Cup winner and a clutch of players also just back from Doha. They tore Liverpool to shreds, and one of their World Cup galacticos - a tricky Japanese winger - absolutely TAA a second one. 3-0 utterly flattered Liverpool and with a bit more composure in front of goal and a better striker, that could easily have been 6 (six)-0.
So, given the strides made by them and Brentford in an increasingly state funded moneyball game, hope is there. As has been continually stressed on here ad nauseum, proper effing planning from top-to-bottom, left-to-right required.
Whether and to what extent the Brentfords and Brightons can sustain their progress remains to be seen. But until then, hats off to them, they've certainly got their respective shits together!
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| Brighton & Hove Albion on 13:19 - Jan 16 with 692 views | switchingcode |
| Brighton & Hove Albion on 23:28 - Jan 15 by SydneyRs |
They've done superbly but sustaining it with finances so unbalanced in that league is tough. Leicester now flirting with relegation after winning the league a few years ago and appearing to be very well run is a good example. The likes of Swansea etc have done it for a few years in the past but usually end up coming back down eventually.
Can't see Brentford sustaining it for that long either. Their new ground has a small capacity thus limiting the matchday revenue and more and more clubs are adopting the smart way of doing things that they've done so well. History shows that small clubs don't survive in the prem long term. |
I don’t think for one minute Brentford can stay long term in the PL for the main reason Matthew Benham has always said he’s not in it for the long term.The stadium capacity is irrelevant for the majority of clubs with capacities of around 30 k for example if Brentford were able to double their capacity it would represent about 12 million extra income ( if we filled it which we wouldn’t) which is equivalent of 4 higher finishing places at the end of season in PL.
The around 120 million pounds per season in the PL is by far the biggest income stream unless you get some big transfer fees.Brentford’s wage bill the lowest in the PL is around 60 mill and match day income of just 12 mill is still one of the best ratios which is crazy. |  | | |
| Brighton & Hove Albion on 13:57 - Jan 16 with 634 views | R_from_afar |
| Brighton & Hove Albion on 09:45 - Jan 16 by DWQPR |
That was the only option they had otherwise they would have remained at the Withdean in what could only be described as a conference league stadium at best and maybe even lower. Bolton also opted for the same route moving out to Horwich which is more than five miles from their old ground. For us, the reality could well be similar. H&C council seem to have very little appetite to help the club find a location in a very built up area of London, which is getting even more congested. And any land carries a ridiculous premium. Redevelopment of LR, that old chestnut would have to mean getting the Jack Tizzard School site and also purchasing the properties built on the ER side of that site. It would also mean the reduction of SAR to a single lane at best or even pedestrianised. And then you have the issue of light for the flats in White City and the houses in LR and ER. I personally think that Rangers have to start to looking further afield now, courting Ealing Council, who certainly we’re favourable towards the planning at Warren Farm. Loads more potential locations in the Ealing Borough, which would also be cheaper. It would also allow the club to tap into new communities and have a much better community asset. |
You have hit on a key issue here, the location of the stadium.
How many of us would accept moving away from Shepherd's Bush? Brighton had to relocate away from their traditional base in order to get the new stadium built. If we were willing to do that too, it would make things faster and easier for us. I don't think we should be gifted a stadium, by the way.
Another important thing to remember in the case of The Amex is that process was not quick, it took decades. I investigated the timelines and the period between the new site being identified to definitive permission to proceed being given was 10 years. That's not 10 years between deciding to move and playing the first game at the new place, that is a decade to move from "We want it to be there" to "OK, go ahead and start construction, you have all necessary permissions".
That said, QPR's board needs to quickly get to grips with the stadium situation and move things forward. It's in everyone's interest to make progress in terms of getting us a home - even it is where we are now - which can contribute some serious income on non-matchdays. |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
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| Brighton & Hove Albion on 14:35 - Jan 16 with 594 views | TheChef |
| Brighton & Hove Albion on 22:54 - Jan 15 by Antti_Heinola |
People keep talking about the capacity.
It's not so much the capacity (Brentford's ground is smaller than ours I think), it's about monetising the venue for the 13 days out of 14 it's not in use - bringing in revenue in other ways, basically. As we once did with Barry McGuigan!
Personally, I think we are absolutely fcked as a club, I really do. We were on the boat twice - once in the mid-90s when a criminal lack of investment cost us dearly; and then once 10-12 years ago when stupid investment cost us dearly.
We have a huge fanbase. We could be a bigger club, but that stadium (among a million other issues of course) will be the death of us imo. When these owners pull out, and they will fairly soon I think, I shudder to think what's going to happen. Get used to lower league football. |
Yeah we missed the gravy train after relegation in 95-96, somehow clawed our way back to get another shot in 2012. Then we had Briatore and co unwilling to sell out to the Mittals (correct me if my memory fails me) and we ended up with Fernandes instead. And we've been behind the eight ball ever since while Brighton et al have made hay.
Not forgetting yet another bl00dy chance after going up through the play offs in 2014; but we were already fcked as a club by then no thanks to the likes of Redknapp, Phil Beard etc. |  |
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