| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 16:49 - Mar 31 with 1255 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Allen Naughton Pederson Darling Yates Miykola need to leave and d free up cash. About £60 k a week.
Parker Govea Cotterill Congreve need to come in a reduced the £280k a week losses. McLaughlin must be replaced by Watts
Swansea must get by with academy players and good coaching or it is P&S problems. The only opt out is selling Franco or Vipotnik. High paid average players Ned to nbe moved on. McLoughlin Fulton Ollie Cooper etc if possible
The new man can only allow a £9 m loss. £170 k a week. He needs to find £100,000 savings a week.
Even this assumes the US people will continue to keep the club solvent. Fans do not talk cash but talk "Ambition". [Post edited 31 Mar 16:55]
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 17:15 - Mar 31 with 1179 views | magicdaps10 |
Am I the only one who thinks Yates can still offer us something? |  |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 17:24 - Mar 31 with 1165 views | Dr_Winston |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 17:15 - Mar 31 by magicdaps10 |
Am I the only one who thinks Yates can still offer us something? |
No.
I thought he did reasonably well under Duff and suffered more than most with Willams style/tactics/lunacy. Of the nine goals he scored for us last season, six came before Williams was appointed and one the day after.
Would like to see what he can do if given decent support. At least whoever is the next permanent manager should have a good look at him before we go into the market again.
As for Joe and Naughton, I'd have no problem keeping KN around in the same terms if he's happy to for the reasons I've previously covered. Joe I think needs to have a think about whether carrying on is the best idea. [Post edited 31 Mar 18:10]
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 18:42 - Mar 31 with 958 views | magicdaps10 |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 17:24 - Mar 31 by Dr_Winston |
No.
I thought he did reasonably well under Duff and suffered more than most with Willams style/tactics/lunacy. Of the nine goals he scored for us last season, six came before Williams was appointed and one the day after.
Would like to see what he can do if given decent support. At least whoever is the next permanent manager should have a good look at him before we go into the market again.
As for Joe and Naughton, I'd have no problem keeping KN around in the same terms if he's happy to for the reasons I've previously covered. Joe I think needs to have a think about whether carrying on is the best idea. [Post edited 31 Mar 18:10]
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I would like to see him given a chance by whomever is in charge come the start of the season. Yates has got goals whilst in struggling teams in this division so has that experience and could possibly push on in a better team.
My only issue with him, he will be 29 towards the end of the year so I can see the temptation if a decent offer came in for him. | |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 19:37 - Mar 31 with 854 views | jack247 |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 16:49 - Mar 31 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Allen Naughton Pederson Darling Yates Miykola need to leave and d free up cash. About £60 k a week.
Parker Govea Cotterill Congreve need to come in a reduced the £280k a week losses. McLaughlin must be replaced by Watts
Swansea must get by with academy players and good coaching or it is P&S problems. The only opt out is selling Franco or Vipotnik. High paid average players Ned to nbe moved on. McLoughlin Fulton Ollie Cooper etc if possible
The new man can only allow a £9 m loss. £170 k a week. He needs to find £100,000 savings a week.
Even this assumes the US people will continue to keep the club solvent. Fans do not talk cash but talk "Ambition". [Post edited 31 Mar 16:55]
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There has to be a balance between reducing the wage bill and maintaining a competitive squad.
Of course some of those players will have to leave, but relying on players that have been underwhelming in league two is asking for trouble. You didn’t mention Wilson, but he was prolific at that level, I think he’s scored once so far for Yeovil in the national league.
Not sure what’s happening with Govea. He looked bright when he had his cameos last year.
As has been said before, the academy very rarely produces championship quality players. Parker may be an exception.
I’m sure it’s not the players themselves, but the standard they play at. It seems to be a big jump to league two, let alone Championship |  | | |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 19:41 - Mar 31 with 838 views | Dr_Winston |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 19:37 - Mar 31 by jack247 |
There has to be a balance between reducing the wage bill and maintaining a competitive squad.
Of course some of those players will have to leave, but relying on players that have been underwhelming in league two is asking for trouble. You didn’t mention Wilson, but he was prolific at that level, I think he’s scored once so far for Yeovil in the national league.
Not sure what’s happening with Govea. He looked bright when he had his cameos last year.
As has been said before, the academy very rarely produces championship quality players. Parker may be an exception.
I’m sure it’s not the players themselves, but the standard they play at. It seems to be a big jump to league two, let alone Championship |
Lot of truth to that, which is why I've been so loud about getting players out on loan earlier and for longer. They're just marking time in the u23s for the most part. To gain the experience they need and develop they need to be playing proper games against proper pros. | |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 19:43 - Mar 31 with 826 views | QJumpingJack |
The likely departures of the strikers proves what a muddled transfer strategy the club has been operating for the last couple of seasons.
The supporters can see it but the club cannot. | | | |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 21:08 - Mar 31 with 726 views | KeithHaynes |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 19:43 - Mar 31 by QJumpingJack |
The likely departures of the strikers proves what a muddled transfer strategy the club has been operating for the last couple of seasons.
The supporters can see it but the club cannot. |
We have Vipotnik who I genuinely think can improve, unsure on Bianchini, he doesnt look like a Championship player. If Mykola and Jerry do leave it frees up some decent salary and there will be cash on the end of it, if only to furnish any outstanding debt owed to Blackpool and Troyes. It gives us two pretty good salaries spare, and I’ve no doubt any players coming in will be on less than they are on now.
As per the report the club will be thinking cash in. Keeping both until January or one of them will see their value plummet. My thoughts are the same as Liam, and with what we have sourced I think both could leave for financial reasons. I’m not entirely against retaining Yates. |  |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 21:10 - Mar 31 with 722 views | KeithHaynes |
Had a call earlier, we have corrected Allen’s and Naughton’s salary. | |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 21:28 - Mar 31 with 673 views | Dr_Winston |
I think we have to play a different way to suit Bianchini. For much of the season we haven't been all that good at playing one way, never mind two.
I think he'd do OK as a forward in a team that plays the through ball early and often. We mostly don't. For me he's a better option on the wing than Eom, who I'd like to see tried as a #10. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 22:24 - Mar 31 with 613 views | owainglyndwr |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 17:15 - Mar 31 by magicdaps10 |
Am I the only one who thinks Yates can still offer us something? |
He does not want to be down here , |  | | |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 22:26 - Mar 31 with 612 views | Dr_Winston |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 22:24 - Mar 31 by owainglyndwr |
He does not want to be down here , |
Could anyone blame him if that was the case? Treated like something a dirty dog wouldn't lick because of the incompetence of someone else. | |
| Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair, or f*cking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. |
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| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 00:28 - Apr 1 with 498 views | GVJack |
Id keep both Naughton and Allen.
We're very likely going to lose Darling for free in 2 months time. Plus Delcroix will return to his parent club and Pederson will bring his torrid time at the club to an end also. That leaves us with needing to sign at least 3 centre backs next year if Naughton goes who covers there. Let's assume Lowe is a a target who we can get relatively cheap and will be signed to partner Cabango at the back.. We still need another who has experience at championship level to play 10+ games a season and cover injuries. Then we need someone in Naughtons mould who will be content on staying fit and just slotting in if/when needed. Dont under estimate the value of an experienced professional squad member like that.
As for Allen, again his experience is invaluable. I'd like him to
take up a player/coaching role (if he's interested) which would bolster his wages but cover two posts. He's not the Joey of 10 years ago, and has his injury worries... But he's still an international player and a play as you play contract (alongside his coaching wage) may be the best of for both parties. | | | |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 06:10 - Apr 1 with 424 views | Whiterockin |
| Kukharevych & Yates speculation, plus latest Swans losses, Allen & Naugh on 22:26 - Mar 31 by Dr_Winston |
Could anyone blame him if that was the case? Treated like something a dirty dog wouldn't lick because of the incompetence of someone else. |
The only incompetence was buying him in the first place. |  | | |
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