| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox 17:28 - Jul 26 with 8392 views | KeithHaynes |
‘The multi-year front-of-kit deal is valued at an estimated baseline of £10,000,000 per year, with performance bonuses capable of maximizing the total payout to £20,000,000 per year over its 4-year duration’ |  |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 11:43 - Jul 27 with 2233 views | KeithHaynes |
And by comparison.
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 11:52 - Jul 27 with 2163 views | Whiterockin |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 11:43 - Jul 27 by KeithHaynes |
And by comparison.
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This is the problem with amortisation, drop down and you really are in a mess. |  | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:04 - Jul 27 with 2120 views | KeithHaynes |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 11:52 - Jul 27 by Whiterockin |
This is the problem with amortisation, drop down and you really are in a mess. |
Watched them play Malalga and Cadiz a few days back, it was a friendly but they were garbage. | |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:11 - Jul 27 with 2088 views | Boundy |
Some will moan and critise how the Club is run or being starved of invetsment but they must see when we compare ourselves to bigger Clubs than us which have dropped down a division or two just how well we've manged to keep relatively competitive both on and off the pitch |  |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:14 - Jul 27 with 2072 views | Whiterockin |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:11 - Jul 27 by Boundy |
Some will moan and critise how the Club is run or being starved of invetsment but they must see when we compare ourselves to bigger Clubs than us which have dropped down a division or two just how well we've manged to keep relatively competitive both on and off the pitch |
Look back to the owners we first had in the Premier League, there is no way they could sustain our current losses of £13M a season. | | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:34 - Jul 27 with 2002 views | QJumpingJack |
The one thing with Wrexham - they have been very stable off the field since the investment in 2021.
They have stuck with their manager, and the executives have remained for a long period of time eg Shaun Harvey.
A lot of clubs in the division have gone through a tremendous amount of change which is probably not a good thing. | | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:36 - Jul 27 with 1990 views | Whiterockin |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:34 - Jul 27 by QJumpingJack |
The one thing with Wrexham - they have been very stable off the field since the investment in 2021.
They have stuck with their manager, and the executives have remained for a long period of time eg Shaun Harvey.
A lot of clubs in the division have gone through a tremendous amount of change which is probably not a good thing. |
Most clubs have a dip it hasn't happened to Wrexham yet, let's see what happens when it inevitably does. | | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:45 - Jul 27 with 1937 views | GVJack |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:36 - Jul 27 by Whiterockin |
Most clubs have a dip it hasn't happened to Wrexham yet, let's see what happens when it inevitably does. |
I'm sure it will, but not for a while yet. There's more trajectory for their growth. Do I see them qualifying for the Champions League in next 5 years? No. But they've built a squad to be taken as serious promotion contenders this year.... That will make another good season of their series. Then there will be the battle to avoid relegation... Another series .. then moving up the table.... Another series....
Whilst they continue to progress and they have the wit and charisma that RR in particularly brings to the show then their brand is going to continue to grow and grow along side their ability to attract big player sponsors and corporate partners.
It may not be the Swansea way... But it has been and will continue to be a very effective way for them to see progression. | | | |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:54 - Jul 27 with 1900 views | Daggyjack |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 18:29 - Jul 26 by trampie |
Wrexham drew away to a top Polish side the other week then last week they beat Man Utd (away I believe), Man U put out a strong team but Wrexham were too good for them on the balance of play as well as the result I read and now they have just beaten Leeds Utd (think it was out in the States), its mad that teams that lose their pre season games often do well and teams that do well in pre season often do badly, but all the same Wrexham seem to be flying. |
They drew with Wisla Krakow, who have just won promotion from 1 Liga to the Ekstraklasa, so not sure how good they are? They only won 2 or their 6 pre-season friendlies although they won their first league match at the weekend. |  | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 16:52 - Jul 27 with 1619 views | ncswan |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:45 - Jul 27 by GVJack |
I'm sure it will, but not for a while yet. There's more trajectory for their growth. Do I see them qualifying for the Champions League in next 5 years? No. But they've built a squad to be taken as serious promotion contenders this year.... That will make another good season of their series. Then there will be the battle to avoid relegation... Another series .. then moving up the table.... Another series....
Whilst they continue to progress and they have the wit and charisma that RR in particularly brings to the show then their brand is going to continue to grow and grow along side their ability to attract big player sponsors and corporate partners.
It may not be the Swansea way... But it has been and will continue to be a very effective way for them to see progression. |
I agree with you GV. RR is the 21st century version of PT Barnum, a 19th century American showman (Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus). Reynolds is a marketing genius who seamlessly blends entertainment with corporate promotion through Maximum Effort, his production and advertising agency.
Wrexham will be able to compete with last season's relegated PL teams WHAM, Wolves, and Burnley because of the money Reynolds' investments attract. His Mint Mobile Telecom investment sale to T-Mobile made him millions of $ ($300M to $337M estimated). His Mint Mobile TV ads are ubiquitous here in the US, earning his Maximum Effort millions as well. His sale of Aviation American Gin to spirits giant, Diageo, made him multi-millions. And, his paltry $2M purchase of Wrexham itself is worth over $400M, according to some sources.
The club did report over $19M in losses for the last year, in the report I read, mainly due to player purchases and wages. [Post edited 27 Jul 16:55]
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:09 - Jul 27 with 1560 views | Dr_Winston |
So far since the takeover Wrexham haven't had a season without something on it. Not always successful, they have been chasing promotion either automatically or through the playoffs each season, thus sustaining the interest.
The crunch will come for them if they have a couple of boring mid table seasons. They're basically sharks. They have to keep going forward or they'll sink. |  |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:12 - Jul 27 with 1547 views | trampie |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 12:54 - Jul 27 by Daggyjack |
They drew with Wisla Krakow, who have just won promotion from 1 Liga to the Ekstraklasa, so not sure how good they are? They only won 2 or their 6 pre-season friendlies although they won their first league match at the weekend. |
Wisla are a huge team in Poland, they have won loads of domestic titles, have a huge following 27,000 plus average attendance last season in the second tier, only one team in the top tier averaged more.
Wrexham do seem to get lots of glamorous friendlies over the last few seasons. |  |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:14 - Jul 27 with 1546 views | Whiterockin |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 16:52 - Jul 27 by ncswan |
I agree with you GV. RR is the 21st century version of PT Barnum, a 19th century American showman (Ringling Bros. Barnum & Bailey Circus). Reynolds is a marketing genius who seamlessly blends entertainment with corporate promotion through Maximum Effort, his production and advertising agency.
Wrexham will be able to compete with last season's relegated PL teams WHAM, Wolves, and Burnley because of the money Reynolds' investments attract. His Mint Mobile Telecom investment sale to T-Mobile made him millions of $ ($300M to $337M estimated). His Mint Mobile TV ads are ubiquitous here in the US, earning his Maximum Effort millions as well. His sale of Aviation American Gin to spirits giant, Diageo, made him multi-millions. And, his paltry $2M purchase of Wrexham itself is worth over $400M, according to some sources.
The club did report over $19M in losses for the last year, in the report I read, mainly due to player purchases and wages. [Post edited 27 Jul 16:55]
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On PSR you could only lose £39M ish over a rolling 3 year period so under that system they could only lose £20M over the next 2 seasons. We have now moved to SCR which is tighter but their sponsorship has also increased. Who knows their exact figures but I will be surprised if they are not sailing close to the wind. It doesn't matter how wealthy owners are they can't just pump money in. It comes down to club revenue and Wrexhams comercial side will put others to shame, but their owners can't just write cheques. [Post edited 27 Jul 17:22]
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:59 - Jul 27 with 1457 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 18:19 - Jul 26 by Whiterockin |
Does the contract with MM stay if there is a change of ownership of the ground?
Secondly do you think he would step down from the deal if we had a massive offer of sponsorship for the ground. |
Mr Morgan has been great for Swansea and still has shares I think. I always got the impression. that the stadium naming rights was something that was " better than. nothing" . About £100 k a year I read which is cheap for Morgan and at least something for the club' s coffers.
The old owners of Swansea deserve a lot more respect from the fans in my opinion. |  |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 18:16 - Jul 27 with 1409 views | GVJack |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:14 - Jul 27 by Whiterockin |
On PSR you could only lose £39M ish over a rolling 3 year period so under that system they could only lose £20M over the next 2 seasons. We have now moved to SCR which is tighter but their sponsorship has also increased. Who knows their exact figures but I will be surprised if they are not sailing close to the wind. It doesn't matter how wealthy owners are they can't just pump money in. It comes down to club revenue and Wrexhams comercial side will put others to shame, but their owners can't just write cheques. [Post edited 27 Jul 17:22]
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Spot on. Hence why the increased revenue through commercial means is so important and why this deal looks like an amazing piece of business for them. If they have ambition... They should sail close to the wind... They will want to try and spend every pound the earn/can to make them more competitive on the field.
No point making 10m profit and seeing the tax man take a hefty cut. | | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 18:18 - Jul 27 with 1407 views | KeithHaynes |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 18:16 - Jul 27 by GVJack |
Spot on. Hence why the increased revenue through commercial means is so important and why this deal looks like an amazing piece of business for them. If they have ambition... They should sail close to the wind... They will want to try and spend every pound the earn/can to make them more competitive on the field.
No point making 10m profit and seeing the tax man take a hefty cut. |
The amount of tax cuts on investment available would shock you. | |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 19:04 - Jul 27 with 1324 views | ncswan |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 17:14 - Jul 27 by Whiterockin |
On PSR you could only lose £39M ish over a rolling 3 year period so under that system they could only lose £20M over the next 2 seasons. We have now moved to SCR which is tighter but their sponsorship has also increased. Who knows their exact figures but I will be surprised if they are not sailing close to the wind. It doesn't matter how wealthy owners are they can't just pump money in. It comes down to club revenue and Wrexhams comercial side will put others to shame, but their owners can't just write cheques. [Post edited 27 Jul 17:22]
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According to a NY Times article, Wrexham AFC reported an operating loss of £14.85 million ($19.7 million) for the 2024–25 financial year covering their League One promotion campaign, driven by a surge in player wages, promotion bonuses, and an exceptional write-off. | | | |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 19:07 - Jul 27 with 1318 views | KeithHaynes |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 19:04 - Jul 27 by ncswan |
According to a NY Times article, Wrexham AFC reported an operating loss of £14.85 million ($19.7 million) for the 2024–25 financial year covering their League One promotion campaign, driven by a surge in player wages, promotion bonuses, and an exceptional write-off. |
Very carefully managed return if that’s accurate. | |
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| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 19:19 - Jul 27 with 1296 views | Whiterockin |
| Wrexham shirt sponsor deal with Firefox on 19:04 - Jul 27 by ncswan |
According to a NY Times article, Wrexham AFC reported an operating loss of £14.85 million ($19.7 million) for the 2024–25 financial year covering their League One promotion campaign, driven by a surge in player wages, promotion bonuses, and an exceptional write-off. |
There are different financial rules in league one compared to the championship. | | | |
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