| Backs...no not our defence. 20:51 - Jul 16 with 2629 views | RickyDicky |
So, I'm in for a back op next Saturday, fusing 2 joints, lumber 4 and 5 apparently, given me pain for years in back lower back and legs etc. seems a disc has burst , giving irritation on the sciatic nerves, hence the pain.
Anyone had the op , recovery etc, feeling a bit nervous about the whole thing , any info would be useful ?
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 21:51 - Jul 16 with 2578 views | LadbrokeR |
I am sorry I haven't but my wife has been a long time sufferer of back pain. What I do know is that a very high percentage of back trouble goes undiagnosed and that most people are left with the challenge of pain management. My wife has had facet joint injections which reduced the pain for about 9 months and other than that it' all stretching. Infact yoga is good . Apologies if I have just told stuff that you already know. Good luck with the procedure. |  | | |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 22:00 - Jul 16 with 2566 views | Lblock |
Mate you have my utmost sympathy.
Herniated disc sufferer and have been for a number of years -- all about L5 S1 for me.
The pain is anywhere between excruciating and a constant endless nag (yes... a bit like marriage I was told!)
The damn thing nearly killed me in a secondary type way as the dreaded Naproxen anti-inflams gave me serious G.I. bleed over a year ago. Nasty business.
Anyway. I've had two proceedures being the facet joint injections which are in no way a cure but give relief for you to attempt a "self fix". Been 7 months since last lot and with regular gym and pilates (dont mock the power of lycra - pilates has been a Godsend) I'm getting by.
My quack showed me MRi's of "serious" injuries and I just cannot imagine what people like yourself must be going through.
I've spoken to a couple of people who have had fusions and they all said it's changed their lives for the better. There's a couple of different methods with one new one being a drill up the arsehole and actually tightening with a tungsten screw. Fella who had that was in the swimming pool doing hydrotherapy the very next day. The conventional meccanno method looks horrendous but apparently not too bad. Both people I spoke to who had that were in hospital for 2 weeks and recovery was 3 months.
I'll be telling you nothing you haven't heard but the way forward is lose weight (if you're carrying timber round the gut), moderate exercise, stretch regular, posture and strengthen your core.
Can I ask what hospital you're having it done at / who by? If you're in the Princess Grace with Doctor Colin Natali then you are in the best of hands. I found him excellent and the staff there are quality (but then it is private).
The very, very best of luck next Saturday mate and do come back on here to let us know how you're doing --- I reckon you'll have a bit of time on your hands to be surfing these pages! Keep you eyes on the positive -- being sciatica free would I'm sure be elixir from the Gods. |  |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 08:13 - Jul 17 with 2489 views | RickyDicky |
Thanks guys, some useful info.
I'm having the Meccano type op, 4 tungsten screws and 2 bolts to hold it all together, plus some cement made from my hip bone ! I'll be at the William Harvey in ashford, Kent, under Mr Yianni who has been very assuring and have heard from others he is very good. I remember exactly when it happened, I was sitting down and turned to speak to someone and I can only describe it like a grape being popped between your fingers, it felt ok until the next morning ! Massive pain down both legs back and front. I was give the back injection which lasted for about 3 weeks, so this is where I am now. They say I should be up the next day and ready to leave hospital after 3 days, fingers crossed......
Haven't missed the first home game for years, so I have my first target set !
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 09:57 - Jul 17 with 2469 views | SimonJames |
Possibly not what you want to hear, but I asked my father who is a retired physician surgeon/doctor/osteopath and he said this:
"In my book, spinal fusion is usually unnecessary and rarely works and I have to ask if he has seen a decent osteopath.
A discectomy can be of help but spinal fusion is for the birds.
I suggest he elects to postpone the op - I bet it is private - and seeks another opinion or two - medical and osteopathic.
... I have carefully reversed a number of spinal and cervical fusions over the years much to the benefit of the patients who were very grateful for the improvement in their condition and well being.
Tell your mate to get some more opinions." |  |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 18:52 - Jul 17 with 2414 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 09:57 - Jul 17 by SimonJames |
Possibly not what you want to hear, but I asked my father who is a retired physician surgeon/doctor/osteopath and he said this:
"In my book, spinal fusion is usually unnecessary and rarely works and I have to ask if he has seen a decent osteopath.
A discectomy can be of help but spinal fusion is for the birds.
I suggest he elects to postpone the op - I bet it is private - and seeks another opinion or two - medical and osteopathic.
... I have carefully reversed a number of spinal and cervical fusions over the years much to the benefit of the patients who were very grateful for the improvement in their condition and well being.
Tell your mate to get some more opinions." |
Ok, thanks for the feed back.
I'm not going private , we have a fantastic hospital in East Kent
I have also seen osteopaths, some good and some not so good.
I'm no expert, but I've seen the mri scans and even I can see the difference to the good joints I have.
The pain is such that desperation pushes me to my decision to have the surgery.
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 19:15 - Jul 17 with 2401 views | Lblock |
Thing is with back conditions every different expert has a different opinion
Physios say physiotherapy is the way forward.
Oesteo's say oesto is the only thing that'll help
Chiropractors exactly the same.
My surgeon had my confidence 1000% as rather than railroad me into the expensive option of full surgery he took me through all the options and we started from the least involved up.
The discectomy probably not possible for Ricky (I'm no surgeon) as it's an explosion and I'd imagine that's one to trim a disc bulge and not a complete breakdown.
If you've never experienced serious and constant sciatica then you dont knwo how lucky you are and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (well maybe my Mother-in-law but that's a different story). I know if mine got to the stage where everything I did was only very temporary I'd certainly be looking to get down the surgery route asap.
Ricky - very best of luck for next week and I'm sure it'll be fine for you fella. | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 19:47 - Jul 17 with 2383 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 19:15 - Jul 17 by Lblock |
Thing is with back conditions every different expert has a different opinion
Physios say physiotherapy is the way forward.
Oesteo's say oesto is the only thing that'll help
Chiropractors exactly the same.
My surgeon had my confidence 1000% as rather than railroad me into the expensive option of full surgery he took me through all the options and we started from the least involved up.
The discectomy probably not possible for Ricky (I'm no surgeon) as it's an explosion and I'd imagine that's one to trim a disc bulge and not a complete breakdown.
If you've never experienced serious and constant sciatica then you dont knwo how lucky you are and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy (well maybe my Mother-in-law but that's a different story). I know if mine got to the stage where everything I did was only very temporary I'd certainly be looking to get down the surgery route asap.
Ricky - very best of luck for next week and I'm sure it'll be fine for you fella. |
Thanks for the kind words.
Still hope to be there for the first home game, going in on the 25th, so 3 weeks to recover.
P.s. Luckily my mother in law ain't too bad !!!!!!! | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 20:26 - Jul 17 with 2353 views | Hayesender |
Been having problems with my lower back for a few years now. Obviously being a postie doesn't help.
Not been too bad for the last 18 months or so, but popped again last week.
Walking round like I've shite myself |  |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 21:01 - Jul 17 with 2339 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 20:26 - Jul 17 by Hayesender |
Been having problems with my lower back for a few years now. Obviously being a postie doesn't help.
Not been too bad for the last 18 months or so, but popped again last week.
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I'm walk like..I'm just about to shite myself ! | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 21:46 - Jul 17 with 2314 views | BromleyHoop |
Good luck with the op mate. As an aside Mr Yianni did my tennis elbow op last year. He's a top bloke. |  |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 21:49 - Jul 17 with 2309 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 21:46 - Jul 17 by BromleyHoop |
Good luck with the op mate. As an aside Mr Yianni did my tennis elbow op last year. He's a top bloke. |
That's another reassuring note, thanks. | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 10:44 - Jul 30 with 2170 views | Lblock |
So how goes it?
Did you have the op? All good? How's recovery going?
Hope you're full on for your target of 1st home game | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 10:50 - Jul 30 with 2158 views | JAPRANGERS |
Good luck/bonne chance/ viel Gluck mate! |  | | |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 11:05 - Jul 30 with 2138 views | RickyDicky |
Had the op on Saturday morning, out on Monday. Lot of pain being controlled by tramadol and paracetamol, apparently the combination acts like morphine, so can be a little spacy at times !!!!
Most of the pain is coming from the groin and hips where they manipulate you to get access to the joints, so my tendons have been stretched to places they haven't been to for years !
Up and about without crutches at home. I find when I get in a comfortable position its best to stay there for as long as possible. Thankfully I'm sleeping ok, unlike hospital where you get woken every 2 hours for various checks. Have to say though that the nurses and staff at William Harvey hospital wre fantastic. Proper nursing and aftercare.
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 11:05 - Jul 30 with 2138 views | CanadaRanger |
Hope they successfully swap two dodgy half-backs for a reliable full-back! Best of luck. |  | | |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 11:24 - Jul 30 with 2121 views | Lblock |
All sounds good so far mate
Best of luck with the recovery - respect it but don't let it control you too much!! | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 15:58 - Jul 30 with 2071 views | jamois |
RD I hope you're recovering mate. I have exactly the same issue as you and have had 2 surgeons insist it's the only way forward for me - same procedure, same lumbar. So far I've not had the balls to do it. I guess I'm waiting for a miracle. Please keep us up to date with developments, I'm very interested to see how you go. Best of luck, positive vibes. |  |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 16:57 - Jul 30 with 2053 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 15:58 - Jul 30 by jamois |
RD I hope you're recovering mate. I have exactly the same issue as you and have had 2 surgeons insist it's the only way forward for me - same procedure, same lumbar. So far I've not had the balls to do it. I guess I'm waiting for a miracle. Please keep us up to date with developments, I'm very interested to see how you go. Best of luck, positive vibes. |
First that is immediately obvious is, I don't have the sciatic pains. Just suffering bruising, surgery etc, so ......so far so good. Just need to be fully healed to assess. | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 17:25 - Jul 30 with 2034 views | itsbiga |
I had chronic back pain for about 18 months once. Had to sit down to put pants and socks on and it took a few mins. Some days unable to walk, some days took 5 mins to stand up.
You all know the terror of a sneeze or cough and the crawl to the toilet!
What really fixed me up was yoga. Took about 6 months but now I'm totally pain free and mobile.
Got a lot of flexibility now and no back pain at all.
I'm not into yoga at all but as therapy I gotta say it changed my quality of life.
Def worth doing a couple times a week to help your back. | |
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| Backs...no not our defence. on 02:21 - Jul 31 with 1948 views | QPRMUSO |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 09:57 - Jul 17 by SimonJames |
Possibly not what you want to hear, but I asked my father who is a retired physician surgeon/doctor/osteopath and he said this:
"In my book, spinal fusion is usually unnecessary and rarely works and I have to ask if he has seen a decent osteopath.
A discectomy can be of help but spinal fusion is for the birds.
I suggest he elects to postpone the op - I bet it is private - and seeks another opinion or two - medical and osteopathic.
... I have carefully reversed a number of spinal and cervical fusions over the years much to the benefit of the patients who were very grateful for the improvement in their condition and well being.
Tell your mate to get some more opinions." |
Hi. It' s Mrs QPR Muso here responding with great sympathy. I am 50 and regularly slipped discs since I was 14. I agree with Simon James post. Spinal fusion is irreversible , puts stress on the joints above in time and is a very serious decision to make. What about a disc replacement ? My friend had the same as you then a disc replacement over ten years ago and no problems since. Check out Mr Andrew Quaille on Google. Ex Australian army Osteopathic surgeon who specialises in spine only. He used to recommend fusion and now doesn't based upon his patients experiences. He is based in Basingstoke, Guildford and Harley Steet. Well worth seeking his opinion he is very experienced. I'm glad he talked me out of it. Much sympathy and lots of luck. | | | |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 09:13 - Jul 31 with 1877 views | RickyDicky |
| Backs...no not our defence. on 02:21 - Jul 31 by QPRMUSO |
Hi. It' s Mrs QPR Muso here responding with great sympathy. I am 50 and regularly slipped discs since I was 14. I agree with Simon James post. Spinal fusion is irreversible , puts stress on the joints above in time and is a very serious decision to make. What about a disc replacement ? My friend had the same as you then a disc replacement over ten years ago and no problems since. Check out Mr Andrew Quaille on Google. Ex Australian army Osteopathic surgeon who specialises in spine only. He used to recommend fusion and now doesn't based upon his patients experiences. He is based in Basingstoke, Guildford and Harley Steet. Well worth seeking his opinion he is very experienced. I'm glad he talked me out of it. Much sympathy and lots of luck. |
I had the op last Saturday, see above.
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