| Why do we struggle? 07:19 - Feb 21 with 2897 views | Gloucs_R |
Looking at the Top 10 and the following teams are all up there...
Luton
Watford
Millwall
Blackburn
Above us..
Coventry
Preston
Reading
Historically, all similar clubs to us. Most are South East based. A couple have had really hard times but I've left then in there for balance.
How are the top 3 mentioned doing so well? Yes, Watford were in the Premier but they got themselves there to begin with.
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| Why do we struggle? on 07:44 - Feb 21 with 2798 views | distortR |
Luton have a definite transfer stratagy, as do Watford, although their's is very different. Blackburn have a Cat A) youth team supplying players for their squad. Millwall have been pragmatic, a style of football that doesn't suit everyone but suits their budget.
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| Why do we struggle? on 07:50 - Feb 21 with 2767 views | andrew1302 |
The others have teams running their clubs which know their direction and a genuine understanding of a transfer policy. How to assess a player and who to buy. And we have Les. | | | |
| Why do we struggle? on 08:17 - Feb 21 with 2675 views | PunteR |
I guess because they have people there that know what they're doing.
Going back to Les Ferdinand and his experience.
He had none when he got the job. You could argue he's had to learn on the job and now 8 years later he's fully experienced. I dont buy that. He's experienced with working under our owners and the way we do things, but that's just the QPR way and as we can see it's not that successful.
It's like an apprentice sticking to the same firm and just learning that way. Full experience is going out there and learning different methods and adapting.
It's why I think Les has run his course as DoF and we need a fresh face with new ideas.
Les has done a reasonable job under the circumstances and working for the Malaysians I can imagine being an absolute nightmare. He has helped steer the club in the right direction but it's starting to veer off track again and we need somebody else to steady it. I've no idea who though, but looking at other clubs there are people out there that can do a decent job. |  |
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| Why do we struggle? on 08:47 - Feb 21 with 2587 views | NorthantsHoop |
We struggle cos we buy powder puff posey players, got to look and develop a more physical team. Let's face it Luton and Millwall looked lot stronger than us as did Sunderland we look soft. Hopefully if it is Ainsworth will start to address this. No good playing nice football if you keep losing especially in this division. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 8:48]
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| Why do we struggle? on 09:27 - Feb 21 with 2475 views | TK1 |
| Why do we struggle? on 08:47 - Feb 21 by NorthantsHoop |
We struggle cos we buy powder puff posey players, got to look and develop a more physical team. Let's face it Luton and Millwall looked lot stronger than us as did Sunderland we look soft. Hopefully if it is Ainsworth will start to address this. No good playing nice football if you keep losing especially in this division. [Post edited 21 Feb 2023 8:48]
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QPR fans need a win like Cat A prisoners need a shag, but let's not make stuff up to compensate.
We were not powder puff beating Millwall away, Bristol City away, Watford away or Sheffield United away. We were swashbuckling. We were brilliant. I saw it with my own eyes. These same players, this same season. Playing absolutely beautiful football. The fans sung about us going up. Fans even had the brassneck to taunt other teams about why *they* were going down for missing presentable chances against us. (I wonder if those fans are reflecting on the fact that they are arseholes now? I doubt it, being arseholes.)
This is a good squad of players. All the other managers in this league would say so. No squad is perfect (other than Burnley), but it's a top ten squad at least, possibly top six squad with care and prudence. It's been appallingly managed since October, about as bad as it gets. Mick Beale was allowed to bring in loan players and should've been told no in a couple of instances at least - that's on Les and the board. But the squad is good enough to be considerably higher up the table. It is an undoubted disaster, too, that the league's form attacker's hamstring pinged off again just as we were ripping the second the best team away from home.
This club, this DOF, buys good first team players for this league in this budget range. The rest of it - the youth pathway, the hundreds of coaches, all that - has demonstrably failed for a number of years and that no doubt should be evaluated in the summer. But Dieng, Paal, Dickie, Dunne, Field, Johansson, Chair, Willock, Dykes are very good Championship players. It's a core. It reminds me of the core we had in 2010-11 when we were also flailing around near the bottom at Easter.
A couple of of wins on the bounce and I'll be glaring at fans in Wigan singing 'that's why you're going down'. A couple of defeats and they'll be marching on the training ground with pitchforks. We just need a win. These players can win, and they can win beautifully, they've forgotten how. | | | |
| Why do we struggle? on 11:01 - Feb 22 with 2196 views | Gloucs_R |
Interesting but opposing views.
I really do think we need to focus on the B team and make that the pathway to the first team.
I think it's time to call and end to tippy tappy football. We need more steel and grit. Hopefully GA can address this. | |
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| Why do we struggle? on 11:35 - Feb 22 with 2123 views | Bluce_Ree |
Why?
Because CURSE. |  |
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| Why do we struggle? on 11:39 - Feb 22 with 2113 views | Sonofpugwash |
| Why do we struggle? on 11:35 - Feb 22 by Bluce_Ree |
Why?
Because CURSE. |
You want to remove it?Get a member of the Romani community in to do the bizzo. |  |
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| Why do we struggle? on 12:05 - Feb 22 with 2053 views | CateLeBonR |
Recruitment. |  | | |
| Why do we struggle? on 14:10 - Feb 22 with 1879 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
| Why do we struggle? on 08:17 - Feb 21 by PunteR |
I guess because they have people there that know what they're doing.
Going back to Les Ferdinand and his experience.
He had none when he got the job. You could argue he's had to learn on the job and now 8 years later he's fully experienced. I dont buy that. He's experienced with working under our owners and the way we do things, but that's just the QPR way and as we can see it's not that successful.
It's like an apprentice sticking to the same firm and just learning that way. Full experience is going out there and learning different methods and adapting.
It's why I think Les has run his course as DoF and we need a fresh face with new ideas.
Les has done a reasonable job under the circumstances and working for the Malaysians I can imagine being an absolute nightmare. He has helped steer the club in the right direction but it's starting to veer off track again and we need somebody else to steady it. I've no idea who though, but looking at other clubs there are people out there that can do a decent job. |
His naivety is demonstrated by the idea that we'd have the Busby Babes coming through every few years, who we could then flog for billions of pounds. Of course the reality is that we can't even produce one striker to fill in for Dykes for a few games. A complete shitshow. [Post edited 22 Feb 2023 14:10]
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| Why do we struggle? on 15:18 - Feb 22 with 1771 views | derbyhoop |
| Why do we struggle? on 09:27 - Feb 21 by TK1 |
QPR fans need a win like Cat A prisoners need a shag, but let's not make stuff up to compensate.
We were not powder puff beating Millwall away, Bristol City away, Watford away or Sheffield United away. We were swashbuckling. We were brilliant. I saw it with my own eyes. These same players, this same season. Playing absolutely beautiful football. The fans sung about us going up. Fans even had the brassneck to taunt other teams about why *they* were going down for missing presentable chances against us. (I wonder if those fans are reflecting on the fact that they are arseholes now? I doubt it, being arseholes.)
This is a good squad of players. All the other managers in this league would say so. No squad is perfect (other than Burnley), but it's a top ten squad at least, possibly top six squad with care and prudence. It's been appallingly managed since October, about as bad as it gets. Mick Beale was allowed to bring in loan players and should've been told no in a couple of instances at least - that's on Les and the board. But the squad is good enough to be considerably higher up the table. It is an undoubted disaster, too, that the league's form attacker's hamstring pinged off again just as we were ripping the second the best team away from home.
This club, this DOF, buys good first team players for this league in this budget range. The rest of it - the youth pathway, the hundreds of coaches, all that - has demonstrably failed for a number of years and that no doubt should be evaluated in the summer. But Dieng, Paal, Dickie, Dunne, Field, Johansson, Chair, Willock, Dykes are very good Championship players. It's a core. It reminds me of the core we had in 2010-11 when we were also flailing around near the bottom at Easter.
A couple of of wins on the bounce and I'll be glaring at fans in Wigan singing 'that's why you're going down'. A couple of defeats and they'll be marching on the training ground with pitchforks. We just need a win. These players can win, and they can win beautifully, they've forgotten how. |
Which loan players was Beale allowed to bring in that, at the time, we should have said no.
Roberts was brought in to supplement a strike force of Dykes, Bonne and Armstrong.
Iroegbunam is reckoned to be one of the brightest talents of his age. Sadly, he hasn't learned as quickly as we would like.
Laird, when fit and committed, is a massive improvement over Kakay
Richards is a mystery.
Lowe was a replacement for Bonne, when it was clear Mac could not cut it.
Forget lumping Paal, JCS, Balogun and Martin into the mix as they are all permanent signings. |  |
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