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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:10 - May 19 with 1194 viewsIfonly

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:02 - May 19 by grumpy

So watching training 73 hours before is allowed.

Give me strength……..


Yes it's allowed, and within 72 hours is not. How difficult is that to follow? Even a child could understand.

Whoever decided to cheat by breaking that rule has brought the club to its knees.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:31 - May 19 with 1129 viewsgrumpy

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:10 - May 19 by Ifonly

Yes it's allowed, and within 72 hours is not. How difficult is that to follow? Even a child could understand.

Whoever decided to cheat by breaking that rule has brought the club to its knees.


Sounds like you are on your knees.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:48 - May 19 with 1055 viewsIfonly

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:31 - May 19 by grumpy

Sounds like you are on your knees.


If that's the best you've got you'd better go back to sleep. When you wake up we'll still be guilty of cheating.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:55 - May 19 with 1040 viewsgrumpy

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:48 - May 19 by Ifonly

If that's the best you've got you'd better go back to sleep. When you wake up we'll still be guilty of cheating.


You're a defeatist and you will still be when I wake up.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:05 - May 19 with 1024 viewsIfonly

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 21:55 - May 19 by grumpy

You're a defeatist and you will still be when I wake up.


Not a defeatist Grumpy, never have been. But I am a realist and I know from set backs in business that it is only by having an honest assessment of your current situation that you can start moving forward again.

It is not defeatist to say that we have cheated. It's just a fact.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:12 - May 19 with 1004 viewsMattFinish

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 20:36 - May 19 by Ifonly

Still in denial then I see. Yes we are serial cheats. Anyone who can't face up to that needs to grow a pair.


As far as I’m aware the club admitted to watching Oxford and Ipswich so three times in all over a season

Now don’t get me wrong that is unacceptable and unnecessary but three incidents over a 9 month season can hardly be described as serial cheating.

Obviously as you say anyone who has even a slightly differing opinion to you needs to grow a pair

I’m just happy to give your sad little life some meaning 😄
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:12 - May 19 with 1003 viewsgrumpy

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:05 - May 19 by Ifonly

Not a defeatist Grumpy, never have been. But I am a realist and I know from set backs in business that it is only by having an honest assessment of your current situation that you can start moving forward again.

It is not defeatist to say that we have cheated. It's just a fact.


Never said we haven't cheated.
I do have a issue with fans paying to watch Middlesbrough when there was a very good likelihood of being banned from the final.
Leaving it so late and from what I hear if its true a Middlesbrough man on the EFL board.
[Post edited 19 May 22:16]
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:21 - May 19 with 971 viewsMattFinish

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:12 - May 19 by grumpy

Never said we haven't cheated.
I do have a issue with fans paying to watch Middlesbrough when there was a very good likelihood of being banned from the final.
Leaving it so late and from what I hear if its true a Middlesbrough man on the EFL board.
[Post edited 19 May 22:16]


I think you’re wasting your breath with Ifonly Grumps. There’s some great people on this board but there’s always going to be people like Ifonly who seem to pick arguments with everyone.

As you have said, neither of us say we haven’t cheated

My point is as I’ve said in other posts, our punishment is completely disproportionate with what others have got away with such as Man City, Chelsea, Leicester etc
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:23 - May 19 with 952 viewsIfonly

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:12 - May 19 by MattFinish

As far as I’m aware the club admitted to watching Oxford and Ipswich so three times in all over a season

Now don’t get me wrong that is unacceptable and unnecessary but three incidents over a 9 month season can hardly be described as serial cheating.

Obviously as you say anyone who has even a slightly differing opinion to you needs to grow a pair

I’m just happy to give your sad little life some meaning 😄


Oh I don't mind different opinions, I just find your denialism to be a bit pathetic. That's why you need to grow a pair.

Serial means happening in a series, like a 3 part TV serial for example, or a 3 part series of games we cheated in. Therefore, we are serial cheats. It's pathetic that you deny that.

In reality it's probably worse than 3 parts, but then you don't like reality do you.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:44 - May 19 with 917 viewsgrumpy

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:23 - May 19 by Ifonly

Oh I don't mind different opinions, I just find your denialism to be a bit pathetic. That's why you need to grow a pair.

Serial means happening in a series, like a 3 part TV serial for example, or a 3 part series of games we cheated in. Therefore, we are serial cheats. It's pathetic that you deny that.

In reality it's probably worse than 3 parts, but then you don't like reality do you.


Calling people pathetic,childish and to grow a pair if they have a differing opinion to yours is not necessary.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:57 - May 19 with 900 viewsIfonly

Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:44 - May 19 by grumpy

Calling people pathetic,childish and to grow a pair if they have a differing opinion to yours is not necessary.


I didn't call anyone childish but I did say he needed to grow a pair. On another thread he suggested I was on my period, I don't see it as any worse than that. Are you going to lecture him about that?

Again, I have no problem with different opinions, but I genuinely see his denialism as pathetic. It's my honest opinion. Anyone can read this thread and see his denialism all the way down: denying what happened at Boro and now denying that we are serial cheats. We need to face up to the problems, not deny them.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 22:59 - May 19 with 897 viewssledger

whoever they sent to watch oxford should have been sacked long ago for being a complete tool.
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Social Media Post Cast's Doubt On Middlesbrough Version Of Spygate Event's on 23:07 - May 19 with 876 viewskernow

Young Salty’s cv and LinkedIn profile is going to stand him in good stead I expect.
Wonder if he’ll be seen around Southampton any time soon?
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