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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:16 - May 19 with 4282 viewsNYC_Saint

And still no statement from the club...

Pretty atrocious they have nothing to say.

I guess SR said they can't compete in the PL so maybe they're happy at the outcome...
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:37 - May 19 with 4134 viewsgrumpy

Middlesbrough v Hull Final, that sounds like a thrilling encounter wonder if anyone scores.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:38 - May 19 with 4125 viewsshotters

I would imagine they're saying nothing as they will launch an appeal tomorrow

Quite what that will achieve remains to be seen

With the clowns we have in charge we'll probably end up with a bigger points deduction

Fail we may, sail we must

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:38 - May 19 with 4122 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:37 - May 19 by grumpy

Middlesbrough v Hull Final, that sounds like a thrilling encounter wonder if anyone scores.


can only blame ourselves for this mess we have created
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:41 - May 19 with 4096 viewsdirk_doone

I remember Leeds fans saying, when we beat them in the play-off final. We'll change places with you next year. I feel the same way about Boro. I'm looking forward to replacing them after they've had their one awful season in the Premier League. They are certainly coming straight back down again. We have a better chance of winning the Championship next season with Tonda in charge for the whole season than we did this season, when we started with Will Still.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:42 - May 19 with 4079 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:41 - May 19 by dirk_doone

I remember Leeds fans saying, when we beat them in the play-off final. We'll change places with you next year. I feel the same way about Boro. I'm looking forward to replacing them after they've had their one awful season in the Premier League. They are certainly coming straight back down again. We have a better chance of winning the Championship next season with Tonda in charge for the whole season than we did this season, when we started with Will Still.
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Might be Hull going up anyway. Will be an interesting next encounter with Boro
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:43 - May 19 with 4056 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:42 - May 19 by saintpaz

Might be Hull going up anyway. Will be an interesting next encounter with Boro


Hull would come straight back down again in last place as well. I'd rather see Boro suffer that ignominy next season.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:44 - May 19 with 4041 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:43 - May 19 by dirk_doone

Hull would come straight back down again in last place as well. I'd rather see Boro suffer that ignominy next season.


rather Hull win to be honest
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:45 - May 19 with 4026 viewskernow

At this moment I couldn’t give tinker’s cuss about poor, hard done by Middlesbrough.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:48 - May 19 with 3996 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:44 - May 19 by saintpaz

rather Hull win to be honest


That would not be good for us next season. Hull will pose less of a threat to our chances of winning the Championship than Boro will.

We need to look forward, not back.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:51 - May 19 with 3976 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:48 - May 19 by dirk_doone

That would not be good for us next season. Hull will pose less of a threat to our chances of winning the Championship than Boro will.

We need to look forward, not back.

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I disagree, don't think it matters anyhow. People just see Saints as cheats now and we are, so what does it matter? Rather Hull go up and not Boro for sure.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:53 - May 19 with 3950 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:51 - May 19 by saintpaz

I disagree, don't think it matters anyhow. People just see Saints as cheats now and we are, so what does it matter? Rather Hull go up and not Boro for sure.


If Boro go up, the tide of public opinion will start to turn in our favour. This punishment is ridiculously excessive.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:53 - May 19 with 3949 viewsButty101

The club hasn’t even got the gumption to put out a statement.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:54 - May 19 with 3934 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:53 - May 19 by dirk_doone

If Boro go up, the tide of public opinion will start to turn in our favour. This punishment is ridiculously excessive.


I doubt that will turn the tide to be honest, they will see it as "fair dos"
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:55 - May 19 with 3928 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:53 - May 19 by Butty101

The club hasn’t even got the gumption to put out a statement.


probs waiting after tomorrow appeal?
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:07 - May 19 with 3786 viewsDorsetIan

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 21:53 - May 19 by Butty101

The club hasn’t even got the gumption to put out a statement.


It’s been very poor from a PR ‘crisis management’ perspective.

Boro all over the media pushing the ‘cheats’ narrative.

And where’s our counter narrative been??

Gone like lambs to the slaughter to the disciplinary, admitting things and with no
momentum behind whatever defence or mitigation we put forward (if any).

Coming out fighting. Not.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:12 - May 19 with 3756 viewsHeisenberg

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:07 - May 19 by DorsetIan

It’s been very poor from a PR ‘crisis management’ perspective.

Boro all over the media pushing the ‘cheats’ narrative.

And where’s our counter narrative been??

Gone like lambs to the slaughter to the disciplinary, admitting things and with no
momentum behind whatever defence or mitigation we put forward (if any).

Coming out fighting. Not.


We have been caught red handed. No defence option so admitted it.

“Life has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously'
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:18 - May 19 with 3693 viewsDorsetIan

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:12 - May 19 by Heisenberg

We have been caught red handed. No defence option so admitted it.


Where’s the mitigation, attempts to downplay it ??

What about Tonda saying at press conferences that he’d like to say something but couldn’t ?

Boro haven’t just been sitting back and letting the process take its course. They’ve been pushing the idea of how terrible it is, setting things up for a massive punishment. Milking it as best they can.

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:11 - May 19 with 3368 viewsNYC_Saint

So Tonda didn't know it was against the rules. We're appealing and according to Sky Sports we think there's a very strong chance we'll be playing on Saturday

( https://www.givemesport.com/so

I can't see this happening, however, it will be interesting if the league hold back putting tickets on sale for Boro fans until the appeal has concluded.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:19 - May 19 with 3303 viewssaintpaz

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:11 - May 19 by NYC_Saint

So Tonda didn't know it was against the rules. We're appealing and according to Sky Sports we think there's a very strong chance we'll be playing on Saturday

( https://www.givemesport.com/so

I can't see this happening, however, it will be interesting if the league hold back putting tickets on sale for Boro fans until the appeal has concluded.


didnt know the f-ing rules?? This just gets worse
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:20 - May 19 with 3291 viewsdirk_doone

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 22:18 - May 19 by DorsetIan

Where’s the mitigation, attempts to downplay it ??

What about Tonda saying at press conferences that he’d like to say something but couldn’t ?

Boro haven’t just been sitting back and letting the process take its course. They’ve been pushing the idea of how terrible it is, setting things up for a massive punishment. Milking it as best they can.


Tonda is bemused by it. Watching your opponents' training sessions before you play them is normal in other countries. It's just considered an integral part of meticulous planning. I believe him when he says he didn't even know it was against the rules in the Championship.

It's only Steve Gibson's media campaign and having the Boro Chief Executive on the EFL governing board that's blown it up out of all proportions. Let's face it, if the punishment had been commensurate like the 4 point deduction and a fine, nobody would have thought too much of it.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:27 - May 19 with 3217 viewsDorsetIan

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:20 - May 19 by dirk_doone

Tonda is bemused by it. Watching your opponents' training sessions before you play them is normal in other countries. It's just considered an integral part of meticulous planning. I believe him when he says he didn't even know it was against the rules in the Championship.

It's only Steve Gibson's media campaign and having the Boro Chief Executive on the EFL governing board that's blown it up out of all proportions. Let's face it, if the punishment had been commensurate like the 4 point deduction and a fine, nobody would have thought too much of it.
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Why did William Salt run away?

If Tonda genuinely didn’t know, others would have and should have told him. Salt clearly knew.

But either way why weren’t we out there trying to downplay it while Gibson was rabble-rousing?

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:32 - May 19 with 3186 viewskernow

Have no longer any interest in the Championship play off final.
Suffice to say I hope the Tigers eat them alive.

See you all in August.
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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:40 - May 19 with 3168 views1885_SFC

These lads cover the whole sorry saga very well :


Old Skool is Kool

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Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 00:24 - May 20 with 3068 viewssaintmark1976

Southampton Expelled From Championship Play Off Final on 23:11 - May 19 by NYC_Saint

So Tonda didn't know it was against the rules. We're appealing and according to Sky Sports we think there's a very strong chance we'll be playing on Saturday

( https://www.givemesport.com/so

I can't see this happening, however, it will be interesting if the league hold back putting tickets on sale for Boro fans until the appeal has concluded.


We won’t be playing on Saturday.

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