| New arrivals but different locations 23:06 - Sep 6 with 2692 views | Boundy |
It appears Dover and the rest of the Cinque Ports are full so our new neighbours are now coming ashore in Portsmouth which now appears to have an exclusion zone around Portsmouth Harbour, this is ongoing tonight . |  |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 07:12 - Sep 7 with 2089 views | Wingstandwood |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 08:42 - Sep 7 with 2009 views | onehunglow |
TNLI dealing with these illegals when their presence could required at an emergency situation at sea involving British citizens
This country is nuts
No safe passage
No incentive | |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 08:52 - Sep 7 with 2018 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:42 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
TNLI dealing with these illegals when their presence could required at an emergency situation at sea involving British citizens
This country is nuts
No safe passage
No incentive |
What doesn't add up at all is that it is reported that the French shadowed the Portsmouth dingy but could not stop it because it was unsafe to do so, but the RNLI deem it safe to rescue the migrants.
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. |  |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 08:53 - Sep 7 with 2010 views | Demitrius |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:42 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
TNLI dealing with these illegals when their presence could required at an emergency situation at sea involving British citizens
This country is nuts
No safe passage
No incentive |
Just posted exactly this on the Dover thread ....
It's outrageous and an accident waiting to happen. |  |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 09:07 - Sep 7 with 1989 views | onehunglow |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:52 - Sep 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
What doesn't add up at all is that it is reported that the French shadowed the Portsmouth dingy but could not stop it because it was unsafe to do so, but the RNLI deem it safe to rescue the migrants.
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. |
It is entirely sinister
I’ve no idea what British governments are about these days
There again Wales is to a sanctuary for them
Government for Wales mind you | |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 09:20 - Sep 7 with 1985 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:52 - Sep 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
What doesn't add up at all is that it is reported that the French shadowed the Portsmouth dingy but could not stop it because it was unsafe to do so, but the RNLI deem it safe to rescue the migrants.
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. |
I'd like to know more about the French shadowing them, if it is as simple as that it's appaling.
But it does show how stupid this plan is:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/new | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:26 - Sep 7 with 1995 views | Boundy |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:20 - Sep 7 by Scotia |
I'd like to know more about the French shadowing them, if it is as simple as that it's appaling.
But it does show how stupid this plan is:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/new |
and your plan is ? personaly I like the way the Polish deal with those trying to break through their border . crude but very effective. | |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 09:34 - Sep 7 with 1988 views | max936 |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:07 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
It is entirely sinister
I’ve no idea what British governments are about these days
There again Wales is to a sanctuary for them
Government for Wales mind you |
Plaid Cymru the party for Wales and the people of Wales, what an absolute joke that is, they've done the square root of F'all so far.
Except talk about their own agendas that they think will make themselves look good in those area's. |  | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:40 - Sep 7 with 1984 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:07 - Sep 7 by onehunglow |
It is entirely sinister
I’ve no idea what British governments are about these days
There again Wales is to a sanctuary for them
Government for Wales mind you |
It's part of the Marxist view of how things should be as defined in the Classless Communist Society.
The ultimate goal is a society with no private property, no borders, no money, and no government state, where resources are shared collectively to meet everyone's needs
If you use that end state as lens for the decisions that are being taken you get to understand what is happening. | |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 17:51 - Sep 8 with 1766 views | howenjack |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:52 - Sep 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
What doesn't add up at all is that it is reported that the French shadowed the Portsmouth dingy but could not stop it because it was unsafe to do so, but the RNLI deem it safe to rescue the migrants.
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. |
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. ..........
Yes , They are called lies. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 18:15 - Sep 8 with 1734 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
I read it as the French policy tightening up the Dover Calais route. The new route is much longer more dangwrous and higher risk from rough seas and drowning.
The migrants themselves would understand the higher risk and less likely to take it presumably and possibly gave to pay more.
Arrivals are substantially down. In 2026 The causes are not known. |  |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 18:45 - Sep 8 with 1724 views | max936 |
| New arrivals but different locations on 09:26 - Sep 7 by Boundy |
and your plan is ? personaly I like the way the Polish deal with those trying to break through their border . crude but very effective. |
It was all planned last weekend the fact that the buses were all there the tents with clothes the food tents, you don't get all that sorted and ready in a couple of hours he wants them here and he's gonna have the taxpayer paying for it all. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:13 - Sep 9 with 1606 views | AnotherJohn |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:52 - Sep 7 by JACKMANANDBOY |
What doesn't add up at all is that it is reported that the French shadowed the Portsmouth dingy but could not stop it because it was unsafe to do so, but the RNLI deem it safe to rescue the migrants.
We get told some totally unbelievable stories. |
Exactly what happened is very murky. When the boat was about 14 miles from the French coast the engine failed and the boat was drifting. A French vessel approached the distressed passengers who had used mobile phones to summon help. Life jackets were issued and it is reported that work was done on a outboard motor to get it started, though there was insufficient fuel to reach the UK.. There is a question about whether the French helped make the engine operational. In this part of the Channel there is a gap between French and UK waters. It is unclear whether the breakdown was actually in international waters. There must have been a considerable time when the migrant dinghy was in international waters nearer a safe French port than a British one. I think it may well have been lawful for a British vessel to "rescue" the migrants there and return them to the nearest safe port.
https://www.express.co.uk/news [Post edited 9 Sep 8:15]
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| New arrivals but different locations on 09:53 - Sep 9 with 1548 views | onehunglow |
| New arrivals but different locations on 08:13 - Sep 9 by AnotherJohn |
Exactly what happened is very murky. When the boat was about 14 miles from the French coast the engine failed and the boat was drifting. A French vessel approached the distressed passengers who had used mobile phones to summon help. Life jackets were issued and it is reported that work was done on a outboard motor to get it started, though there was insufficient fuel to reach the UK.. There is a question about whether the French helped make the engine operational. In this part of the Channel there is a gap between French and UK waters. It is unclear whether the breakdown was actually in international waters. There must have been a considerable time when the migrant dinghy was in international waters nearer a safe French port than a British one. I think it may well have been lawful for a British vessel to "rescue" the migrants there and return them to the nearest safe port.
https://www.express.co.uk/news [Post edited 9 Sep 8:15]
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Using their mobile phones ! | |
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| New arrivals but different locations on 11:19 - Sep 9 with 1520 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 18:45 - Sep 8 by max936 |
It was all planned last weekend the fact that the buses were all there the tents with clothes the food tents, you don't get all that sorted and ready in a couple of hours he wants them here and he's gonna have the taxpayer paying for it all. |
Of course I don't want them here. I have never said I do. But it's pointless underestimating how hard it is to stop them coming here or beliving guff about it being planned. The buses were there becasue they'd been refused entry to two ports so the buses had loads of time to get to the port they disembarked at and took them to the migrant centre.
I'd guess that they weren't and aren't rescued by France becasue they didn't want to be, It's got to be dangerous attempting to go alongside a boat of 140 people in the pitch black many miles offshore who are refusing to be rescued. They obviously want to be rescued by the RNLI becasue they'll end up here.
My solution would be to remove the pull factor. As in stop buying their services. If the scum who are targetting the RNLI volunteers targetted those using Barbers, Car washes, Vape shops and food delivery apps then they may get somewhere - they won't do this becasue they are probably the same people protesting.
For the record I have never used any of these and I never will. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 11:36 - Sep 9 with 1509 views | AnotherJohn |
| New arrivals but different locations on 11:19 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
Of course I don't want them here. I have never said I do. But it's pointless underestimating how hard it is to stop them coming here or beliving guff about it being planned. The buses were there becasue they'd been refused entry to two ports so the buses had loads of time to get to the port they disembarked at and took them to the migrant centre.
I'd guess that they weren't and aren't rescued by France becasue they didn't want to be, It's got to be dangerous attempting to go alongside a boat of 140 people in the pitch black many miles offshore who are refusing to be rescued. They obviously want to be rescued by the RNLI becasue they'll end up here.
My solution would be to remove the pull factor. As in stop buying their services. If the scum who are targetting the RNLI volunteers targetted those using Barbers, Car washes, Vape shops and food delivery apps then they may get somewhere - they won't do this becasue they are probably the same people protesting.
For the record I have never used any of these and I never will. |
I don't think advanced planning by the UK authorities was involved. However, just regarding a matter of detail, the French vessel Abeille Liberté did go alongside the dinghy when it was drifting with the engine stopped 14 miles off Utah Beach and about an hour into the 70 mile trip (see various reports including the link two posts up). Life jackets were handed to migrants, and some social media posts suggest the French got the engine or a second engine going. The dinghy, which would not have been able to reach the UK without help, was then shepherded to the RNLI lifeboats. The French help seems to be the most questionable aspect of the recent incident. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 12:24 - Sep 9 with 1480 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 11:36 - Sep 9 by AnotherJohn |
I don't think advanced planning by the UK authorities was involved. However, just regarding a matter of detail, the French vessel Abeille Liberté did go alongside the dinghy when it was drifting with the engine stopped 14 miles off Utah Beach and about an hour into the 70 mile trip (see various reports including the link two posts up). Life jackets were handed to migrants, and some social media posts suggest the French got the engine or a second engine going. The dinghy, which would not have been able to reach the UK without help, was then shepherded to the RNLI lifeboats. The French help seems to be the most questionable aspect of the recent incident. |
That might have been the best option to save lives. But yes questions absolutely have to raised of the assistance that France provide.
Again though we have to be realistic about the situation, they don't want to be in France and France don't want them to be there. It's going to take huge anounts of diplomacy and cash to get them to help the UK out. We're not in a strong negotiating position.
This kind of nonsense, and it is nonsense would make the situation worse.
https://news.sky.com/video/we-
I've actually just watched it again - and he blames the weather for the reduction in migrnat crossings? Were they afraid of getting sunstroke? This guy is an abject fool. [Post edited 9 Sep 12:26]
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| New arrivals but different locations on 21:49 - Sep 9 with 1345 views | max936 |
| New arrivals but different locations on 12:24 - Sep 9 by Scotia |
That might have been the best option to save lives. But yes questions absolutely have to raised of the assistance that France provide.
Again though we have to be realistic about the situation, they don't want to be in France and France don't want them to be there. It's going to take huge anounts of diplomacy and cash to get them to help the UK out. We're not in a strong negotiating position.
This kind of nonsense, and it is nonsense would make the situation worse.
https://news.sky.com/video/we-
I've actually just watched it again - and he blames the weather for the reduction in migrnat crossings? Were they afraid of getting sunstroke? This guy is an abject fool. [Post edited 9 Sep 12:26]
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He's at the back of the queue for being an abject fool, he's got an awful lot of catching up to do, you left out the in your opinion bit.
I know talk is cheap, but he speaks a lot of sense all be it maybe what he knows some people want to hear, but that doesn't make him a fool. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 06:27 - Sep 10 with 1240 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 21:49 - Sep 9 by max936 |
He's at the back of the queue for being an abject fool, he's got an awful lot of catching up to do, you left out the in your opinion bit.
I know talk is cheap, but he speaks a lot of sense all be it maybe what he knows some people want to hear, but that doesn't make him a fool. |
Do you seriously think the weather we've had this year has put people off trying to cross the channel? | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 19:08 - Sep 10 with 1111 views | max936 |
| New arrivals but different locations on 06:27 - Sep 10 by Scotia |
Do you seriously think the weather we've had this year has put people off trying to cross the channel? |
What do you think? so you picking out his comment about the weather justifies you to call him an abject fool? | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 19:24 - Sep 10 with 1100 views | max936 |
Apparently Burnham wants to spread these migrants around the country into affluent areas etc, just what is he thinking ffs, sounds to me that him and his labour party are going let them stay here indefinitely and to live off the taxpayer. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 19:50 - Sep 10 with 1089 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 19:08 - Sep 10 by max936 |
What do you think? so you picking out his comment about the weather justifies you to call him an abject fool? |
Yes. It's an example of the garbage he talks, examine it and it's nonsense. He's a walking sound bite.
Reform don't let him stand for election, that says it all. | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 20:01 - Sep 10 with 1082 views | max936 |
| New arrivals but different locations on 19:50 - Sep 10 by Scotia |
Yes. It's an example of the garbage he talks, examine it and it's nonsense. He's a walking sound bite.
Reform don't let him stand for election, that says it all. |
Define garbage, you don't like Reform Farage, Rupert Lowe, so who do you like Labour, Tories or my guess the Greens? | | | |
| New arrivals but different locations on 20:30 - Sep 10 with 1058 views | Scotia |
| New arrivals but different locations on 20:01 - Sep 10 by max936 |
Define garbage, you don't like Reform Farage, Rupert Lowe, so who do you like Labour, Tories or my guess the Greens? |
Nope, none of them really. Someone who admits the state we're in and budgets accordingly.
Substantially reduce the welfare bill, force people in to work and raise taxes to get the kind of public services a civilised country should expect | | | |
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