What do you think Tony will do next? 23:59 - Mar 15 with 2074 views | SimonJames | I have a feeling Villa and Burnley will both finish ahead of Hull and Sunderland. If that happens it means we have to overcome a 6 goal deficit (and -11 goal difference) to overtake Hull. Given the sort of starting line up CR and LF devised last Saturday, it would take a huge leap of faith to believe that we can now avoid relegation. Irrespective of what sort of "back to basics" and rebuilding we want to see next year, not getting our snouts in the PL money trough for the 2016-19 seasons is an absolute fecking disaster. With even the relegated clubs picking up a minimum £92m per annum, trying to compete with that level of funding will be "somewhat challenging". The owners have just written off £60m of their own money. TF is worth about £360m, which is about 10% of the net worth of Foolham's owner, and just over 1% of Man City's owner. So he is probably not really bankrolled enough to be playing in the big league. If you were Tony, what would you be thinking now? 1) Resign yourself to the prospect of owning a Championship club for several years to come. 2) Cut your losses, and try buy a different Championship club that is already almost "the finished article" so that you can realistically push for promotion next season 3) Get out of football altogether If he is truly a football philanthropist, if he has truly learnt his lesson, if he has truly backed the right horse with Sir Les, then we may see an interesting next few years in the club's history. (But probably no bigger stadium). But if he is still the savvy businessman who built his airline, and if he wants to preserve his wealth, I suspect he will walk at the soonest opportunity and leave us up the proverbial. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 01:29 - Mar 16 with 2028 views | kensalriser | Fernandes is not the major financial backer. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 01:55 - Mar 16 with 2009 views | PunteR | I honestly cant see things improving under TF over the next few years. If we get relegated I think he should step down. I would then pick 3). Get out of football altogether. He's a football buffoon,or a fooboon or buffball,or noofball,footbuff or summink.. I'll go now. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 07:25 - Mar 16 with 1859 views | Jamie |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 01:29 - Mar 16 by kensalriser | Fernandes is not the major financial backer. |
As the wealthiest member of the Tune Group, he most certainly is. | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 07:37 - Mar 16 with 1834 views | themodfather | he'll twitter we have signed a dream player and unveil....marlon king announced on twitter of course then down to the crown and sceptre to buy all the intelligenti an ale or 2 | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 07:41 - Mar 16 with 1816 views | SpiritofGregory | Needs to stop kidding himself that he can be a successful football chairman and stand aside. For a start you can't have a chairman that's trying to run other major businesses at the same time. Being a football chairman is a full time job and needs someone who understands football and can see through all the sleazy money grabbing character's within the game. | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 08:16 - Mar 16 with 1777 views | GetMeRangers |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 07:41 - Mar 16 by SpiritofGregory | Needs to stop kidding himself that he can be a successful football chairman and stand aside. For a start you can't have a chairman that's trying to run other major businesses at the same time. Being a football chairman is a full time job and needs someone who understands football and can see through all the sleazy money grabbing character's within the game. |
Do you actually know anything about business, let alone running football clubs? | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:29 - Mar 16 with 1699 views | SomersetHoops | The best thing he could do would be to sell his stake in QPR to the Mittals. The next best thing is for him to have really have accepted his mistakes and their cost, have learnt the lessons and stay. He should spend time doing a proper analysis of QPR and what made them successful in the very few times they were over the last 100+ years. He should also analyse clubs who have been successful with low budgets and learn how they achieve it and put people in place to do the same here. Hopefully Les can stay in post in that scenario and Chris Ramsey can revert to his best position at the club after a proper review at season end taking into account the awful squad he was left with. I am assuming we will go down, but don't really blame CR for that, although I am concerned he has made at least one unacknowledged error and would have been more confident in him staying in his current position if he had admitted his mistake. The worst thing would be for our current owners to cut their losses and abandon QPR in the mess they have made, in the same way that a***hole Redknapp did | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:35 - Mar 16 with 1680 views | TheBlob | Walk away and accept your loss - bad move in the first place. These are football fans you're dealing with here,they're bound to turn on you eventually. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:41 - Mar 16 with 1660 views | SimonJames |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 01:29 - Mar 16 by kensalriser | Fernandes is not the major financial backer. |
Last time I knew, he had 66% of shares and the Mittals had 33%. Have things changed? | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:57 - Mar 16 with 1632 views | pomanjou |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:29 - Mar 16 by SomersetHoops | The best thing he could do would be to sell his stake in QPR to the Mittals. The next best thing is for him to have really have accepted his mistakes and their cost, have learnt the lessons and stay. He should spend time doing a proper analysis of QPR and what made them successful in the very few times they were over the last 100+ years. He should also analyse clubs who have been successful with low budgets and learn how they achieve it and put people in place to do the same here. Hopefully Les can stay in post in that scenario and Chris Ramsey can revert to his best position at the club after a proper review at season end taking into account the awful squad he was left with. I am assuming we will go down, but don't really blame CR for that, although I am concerned he has made at least one unacknowledged error and would have been more confident in him staying in his current position if he had admitted his mistake. The worst thing would be for our current owners to cut their losses and abandon QPR in the mess they have made, in the same way that a***hole Redknapp did |
Not possible to cut his losses by any material amount as most of the loans are unsecured and he would never get away with selling the ground without an alternative being in place. Reckon he will stick with it. Chairman are not supposed to run the club. The chairman and the board set the strategy and appoint working directors to actually manage the club. Having a working chairman seldom succeeds. TF's record at the club is for very poor decision making with very poor appoints of the right people in senior executive roles. He needs a couple of non exec directors on his board which makes me eminently qualified! However, as I, like most of the posters on here hardly know a cross shot from a long shot I am disqualified on technical ability. So a couple of non execs with deep football knowledge is whats needed. Is he heading for that with Les around? It may be so. Whatever, its going to be mass clearout time on and off the field at the end of the season. [Post edited 16 Mar 2015 9:58]
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 09:58 - Mar 16 with 1627 views | daveB | Whether we stay up or go down things need to change. Signs are promising that we are starting to look within the club for players and starting to cut the big spending but going down that route is not easy and can years to seen any positive results. | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 10:04 - Mar 16 with 1609 views | nadera78 | Tune aren't going anywhere as long as Old Oak is still a possibility. | | | |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 10:09 - Mar 16 with 1591 views | Discodroids | appoint john barrowman as manager? weve tried everything else. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 10:14 - Mar 16 with 1578 views | EastR |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 10:04 - Mar 16 by nadera78 | Tune aren't going anywhere as long as Old Oak is still a possibility. |
Spot on. Last week down in Gloucestershire there was some major gambling going on. Some paid off: £50,000 @ 5/1 Windsor Park nice work by someone; others didn’t: collective groans at Annie Power’s demise. Down in W12 there’s been some major property speculation unfolding for the past 3 or 4 years, and two relegations later the odds on that paying off are going to look less attractive by the minute. The collective pockets of the Tune group are arguably not deep enough to sustain more than another year or two out of the top flight. But with the Oasis of Old Oak tantalisingly within reach, and a £60m top up fee just stumped up, it’s not quite time to exit. But that pile of poker chips is looking grimmer. [Post edited 16 Mar 2015 13:22]
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 13:16 - Mar 16 with 1395 views | kensalriser |
What do you think Tony will do next? on 07:25 - Mar 16 by Jamie | As the wealthiest member of the Tune Group, he most certainly is. |
Does he not have partners in Tune Group? Regardless, there is no doubt in my mind that there are financial backers behind Fernandes. He isn't wealthy enough to be bankrolling this on his own. | |
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What do you think Tony will do next? on 13:22 - Mar 16 with 1371 views | Jamie | Yes, there are 3 partners in the Tune Group of which TF is the wealthiest. | | | |
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