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Reply | Martí Cifuentes.
at 17:15 2 Mar 2024
Can we lock him into the club? Give him shares like El Tel? Actually that might make him run away faster. What a manager, and so likeable to boot |
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Reply | West London Sport
at 11:18 2 Mar 2024
Wow. I’m quite thick so I hadn’t realised that the “mainstream media” (which includes such woke propagandists as the Mail) were indoctrinating me with such dreadful lies. I must try and seek out those sources one can “trust”, exposing conspiracies of the “deep state”. I’ve heard Tucker Carson is rigorous at fact checking and great at telling truth to power. It’s also encouraging the Boris is back as a journalist as he was always someone you could trust exposing great EU plots such as their plans to compulsorily feed us straight bananas. |
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Reply | Are Foxes wobbling, or waltzing to the title? Interview
at 19:47 29 Feb 2024
Sobering.
His arrogance/ justified confidence aside, was puzzled my his remark about how annoyed he gets that other fans attribute their success to money. Maybe he should spend a bit more time studying the finances of the "have nots" in this league and then he might start to understand why there is just a wee bit of disparity. Yes they sold more than they bought but the fact that they have over £80m of talent to sell tells its own story. Given the respective cost of the squads it would be incredible if we even competed. |
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Reply | New CEO meeting
at 17:57 27 Feb 2024
All good points, it sounds as if we are aligned.
Re the label "super-fan" - was not meaning to be in any way arch, perhaps unusually for me.
Re the questions: I guess its the problem with any voluntary organisation. If any of you have been involved with a local political party (of any political persuasion) you will know that the meetings are beyond exasperating: boring points, boring people, boring procedures, everyone with their hobby horse, which they flog in total obliviousness to how this is going down in the room, and only a tiny minority seeing the big picture. Really the kind of people who if they came up to you in a pub, you would run away, even without your pint, they are that bad.
I wonder were there to be a future one like this if the participants could have a pre-discussion (as you would prior to any business meeting with a senior external figure) and agree some questions in advance, trying as diplomatically as possible to knock back the bollox about coaches to Fleetwood and get in a bit more of the "are we completely f*cked or just under a bit of pressure right now" kind of questions, which is surely what ultimately is going to concern most fans the most? They probably should have another meeting with a head of operations/ head of logistics type person when all the small stuff can be aired. Think most of us would agree there is a huge amount here that could be improved, some of it cheaply. But just as if you get a chance to speak to the prime minister you don't ask him about traffic cones, you don't ask the CEO about buses.... |
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Reply | New CEO meeting
at 16:30 27 Feb 2024
I'm grateful to super-fans or site owners or whatever you want to call them engaging like that on behalf of those of us who can't be bothered.
I get that anyone sitting in an armchair has little right to question.
All I would say is your remark "more us talking than him" is precisely why these sort of events make me cringe. Yes he should listen to fans concerns but I remember the last fans forum I could bring myself to listen to (it was a few ago now) was just dominated by bores banging on about their pet issue (the beer, the bogs etc). I mean, I'm as frustrated as the next fan that Hoos seemed so uninterested in improving the match day experience (I thought that's what American sports supremos excelled in) but there were/ are so many more important questions to get answered.
As a fan I would be far more interested to learn what HE thought - what is his vision for the club? Is the strategy to still develop players to sell or is that model bust in the post-covid world? Obvs whether we are OK for FFP? Are they waiting till end of the season to talk to out of contract players? Is there scope for player purchases next season? Is there any chance of new investors etc etc. I would treat all these occasions as a potential reporter's opportunity to get information, but the danger is every fans bangs on about their pet issue, the powers that be pretend to listen and as soon as its over they think "box ticked, thank f*ck I don't have to do that for another six months" and promptly forget everything that was said to them.
Obvs I hope I am wrong in this case and I might have missed the flavour of the meeting entirely. In any event encouraging that he is engaging. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 13:35 24 Feb 2024
You are overlooking quite a big point - that he was found guilty
By a court, not by a newspaper |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 17:57 23 Feb 2024
I admit the details are incredibly sketchy so we are probably all talking absolute b*llocks (me included) but just because he didn't show up it doesn't mean there wasn't a trial. Assuming he was notified of the trial and he/ his lawyers failed to show up, and if under those circumstances you can be convicted in absentia under Belgium law, then arguably that's down to him - he would have had the opportunity to make his case but didn't. He is extremely well paid and if he didn't make it his priority to get proper legal advice then he is a very silly lad. I speak btw as a big Chair fan and get irritated by a lot of the footballing criticism of him and in every other regard than this he strikes me as model professional, even under Gareth Ainsworth. So I'm in no way slating him, but I think it is now getting a bit disingenuous to say "he might be guilty, he might be innocent". |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 16:41 23 Feb 2024
That would have been a very reasonable point prior to his being convicted. Presumably all of these permutations would have been probed in court. No doubt Ilias's defence lawyer made the kind of argument you outline (he was provoked, or it was mistaken identity, whatever) but that was clearly rejected by the court. In the UK if someone is, for example, convicted of murder they are described as a "murderer". There is no reason as far as I'm aware to hold a Belgian court in less regard. Of course there are miscarriages of justice but until we hear a credible argument of that as part of some appeal its not unreasonable to take the court's verdict as fact. Just because the reporting of the case might be ropey on google translate it doesn't make the conviction itself unsafe. Agree there is no reason to say he should never play for the club again - after all, the supposed point of prison is to rehabilitate. But I don't think anyone can now argue its simply a matter of opinion what happened - he might be guilty, he might not - because a legal verdict has been delivered. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 14:41 23 Feb 2024
Largely agree with you that prison doesn't work - unless you spend serious money on re-education/ drug treatment etc while prisoners are quite literally a captive audience inside.
Equally not sure the alternative - ie letting repeat offenders keep offending out of jail - works either.
The word I would question in your post (if it was in any way related to Chair) is "petty" - assuming the court verdict was correct, he smashed someone's skull and it could (apparently) have killed him. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 14:25 23 Feb 2024
If so something could have been lost in translation I guess.
So we don't really know if Chair is in jail or not.
I don't understand how the club can think the (semi-literate) statement it put out is in any way sufficient. If it is in touch with Chair's lawyers surely they could establish a) if he has definitely been convicted (sounded so from the reports), and b) whether Ilias is now inside.
I get fans are not entitled to know everything but they probably do have a right to know if their star player is in jail or will be available to play the remaining fixtures of the season which are crucial to the club's future. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 13:59 23 Feb 2024
Very encouraging if he can appeal and is back in UK. Posters on forums have a weakness for the dramatic, but its probably not much of an exaggeration to say the truth or otherwise of this could decide whether we avoid relegation or not. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 13:18 23 Feb 2024
I don't think it is jumping to any conclusions sadly. The two reports say the same thing. The Sun might be a dreadful paper but contrary to popular belief it is not going to make up something like that. |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 13:15 23 Feb 2024
If we did turn down a serious offer for him in Jan that now looks to be right up there in the pantheon of great QPR decisions, and that's saying something... |
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Reply | Chair jailed for a year
at 13:08 23 Feb 2024
What is it about our fu*king club? Just when things seem to be improving.
No mention of appeal, so presumably he is on his way to jail now. |
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