| Match thread: Plymouth 14:12 - Oct 28 with 15560 views | 442Dale |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:44 - Oct 28 with 3045 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:38 - Oct 28 by 442Dale |
We've played well in spells recently with real signs that we can see light at the end of the tunnel, it's about getting that out of the players on a more regular basis in games - eg. that spell after half time at Fleetwood.
I didn't go today so offer no opinion on how we played, but will point at a close-ish division where a run of three wins would propel a team away from danger, and three defeats could put them straight back into it.
We'd do well to think of the 2010/11 season, when we were "in trouble" in the new year, only for us to threaten the top six a couple of months later. Now that might not necessarily happen again (personally, I'm doubtful!) but that side then was relying on Gary Jones as a regular scorer. It's all about perspective.
And, if all else fails, it's worth noting we are undefeated in three games wearing black socks with the home shirt. One win and two draws which, if extrapolated over a 46 game league season, would see us gain 76 points. |
I agree with your first line but then we go back to making the same mistakes we been making for 2 years. |  |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:54 - Oct 28 with 3011 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:43 - Oct 28 by nordenblue |
It's not far off the same as last year that wasn't "poor,headless chickens etc".
While I agree from the games I've seen we have been poor,but Hilly must be scratching his head because on paper we still look very capable just sadly we are running down matches fast without picking up anywhere near enough points, I'm afraid to say Hilly needs to take full responsibility too with some ridiculous team selections |
Hill as to take full responsibility you can't replace Lund Allan MML ( over 120ish league 1 games between them) with the 2 Williams and Inman who haven't got any league 1 experience/ very little experience between them. The players brought in are not good enough
Anyway what's happen to Cannon thought this would be his big season. | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 21:12 - Oct 28 with 2965 views | scarrow |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:54 - Oct 28 by Dale23years |
Hill as to take full responsibility you can't replace Lund Allan MML ( over 120ish league 1 games between them) with the 2 Williams and Inman who haven't got any league 1 experience/ very little experience between them. The players brought in are not good enough
Anyway what's happen to Cannon thought this would be his big season. |
Cannon is injured. Yes the performances haven’t been great but you are one of the most predictable posters on here. Negative, negative, negative. You must be an absolute bloody joy to sit near at games. |  |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 21:33 - Oct 28 with 2920 views | onedalefan |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:22 - Oct 28 by Bazzanne |
The defender that played the ball out was at fault. Played it straight to a Plymouth player. Easy goal from there. This team is rubbish at the moment and as much as I admire KH these are is players chosen and signed by him. He has to take some blame for the poor play. We have also started to foul a lot too. |
Having seen the goal, seems to me that Camps reaction is similar to what he has done a few times recently, 'I'll stand still while the opposition pass around me and some-one else will sort it out. I won't bother'. |  | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 22:27 - Oct 28 with 2780 views | nordenblue |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 20:54 - Oct 28 by Dale23years |
Hill as to take full responsibility you can't replace Lund Allan MML ( over 120ish league 1 games between them) with the 2 Williams and Inman who haven't got any league 1 experience/ very little experience between them. The players brought in are not good enough
Anyway what's happen to Cannon thought this would be his big season. |
Inman has plenty of league 1 experience(100+),MJ Williams is def good enough from what I've seen,and to judge a young lad making a massive step up in divisions is ridiculous just yet as takes time to adapt anyway....so on paper 3 decent signings | | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 22:39 - Oct 28 with 2764 views | animal8 |
Fleetwood beat Oxford today, since we drew with Northampton they have won 2 .In this league any one can beat anyone I just hate slagging off Dale when it's not justified .try to be positive you might like it . | | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 23:06 - Oct 28 with 2696 views | DaleFan7 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 22:39 - Oct 28 by animal8 |
Fleetwood beat Oxford today, since we drew with Northampton they have won 2 .In this league any one can beat anyone I just hate slagging off Dale when it's not justified .try to be positive you might like it . |
How is it not justified? | | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 23:35 - Oct 28 with 2640 views | animal8 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 23:06 - Oct 28 by DaleFan7 |
How is it not justified? |
How is it not justified, because we are not unfortunately allowed to beat teams that some people think we should win easily. last year sheff utd never beat us ,they are now near the top of the championship,but hey we still have a bad team .I am sure some players read these posts and you dale23years are a joy to behold. If we do get relegated will you still support the DALE or go and slang some other team off . | | | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 00:47 - Oct 29 with 2521 views | DaleFan7 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 23:35 - Oct 28 by animal8 |
How is it not justified, because we are not unfortunately allowed to beat teams that some people think we should win easily. last year sheff utd never beat us ,they are now near the top of the championship,but hey we still have a bad team .I am sure some players read these posts and you dale23years are a joy to behold. If we do get relegated will you still support the DALE or go and slang some other team off . |
You're deluded. We've been crap this season and there's no other way to describe it. We beat Southampton once and they're in the Prem, how is that relevant. The fact is, the performances this season, other than the odd 10 min spell haven't been good enough. Of course I'll support Rochdale whatever their division is. I also pay to watch said team so can have my own opinion on it, just like any other product I pay for. If you don't like my opinion it's simple, either ignore it or block me... | | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 08:42 - Oct 29 with 2341 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:18 - Oct 28 by 442Dale |
No. Five bookings for him too. |
Apparently Liverpool hadn't given MJ Williams permission to play, so he wasn't available anyway.
It makes me wonder why he committed such a silly foul on the halfway line when he was already on four yellow cards... |  |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 08:54 - Oct 29 with 2323 views | Daley_Lama |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 08:42 - Oct 29 by TVOS1907 |
Apparently Liverpool hadn't given MJ Williams permission to play, so he wasn't available anyway.
It makes me wonder why he committed such a silly foul on the halfway line when he was already on four yellow cards... |
'Intelligent Scouser' = Oxymoron. |  |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 11:39 - Oct 29 with 2099 views | dingdangblue |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 08:42 - Oct 29 by TVOS1907 |
Apparently Liverpool hadn't given MJ Williams permission to play, so he wasn't available anyway.
It makes me wonder why he committed such a silly foul on the halfway line when he was already on four yellow cards... |
Otherwise know as 'doing a Lund' 😉ðŸ‘🻠|  |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:34 - Oct 29 with 1975 views | Peaky |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 11:39 - Oct 29 by dingdangblue |
Otherwise know as 'doing a Lund' 😉ðŸ‘🻠|
Nah have to say, we are absolutely shambolic this year. Desire is there but this team is not anywhere near good enough for this league. In spells individuals put in good performances ie Andrew at the weekend but as a unit we are way off.
Our transitional play is rediculously slow. We go backwards constantly then look for a long wide ball (often across field) from two of the worst distributing centre half’s I have seen. Our midfield basically play as a defencive 6 , with camps and Williams far too deep. It’s all well and good playing nice concentric circles in your own half but when the end product is a lump forward what’s the point.
Done looks lost, bunny’s final ball is not as good as it had been and he seems to provoke the opposing fans every game (meaning he loses his head and gets substituted). Hendo works hard but has lost his spark in the final third. Davis has the heart of a lion but seems to lack fitness and we have absolutely no width or pace.
The only positives I can see at the moment is we have a trusted manager who has always worked magic for us, the players certainly work hard and are fighting and thankfully there are teams even worse than us. Sadly as mentioned elsewhere, bury and a few other of the bottom teams have the personnel to grind out some wins. We are in big trouble after this weekend no matter how much the manager sugar coats it. | | | |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:39 - Oct 29 with 1967 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:34 - Oct 29 by Peaky |
Nah have to say, we are absolutely shambolic this year. Desire is there but this team is not anywhere near good enough for this league. In spells individuals put in good performances ie Andrew at the weekend but as a unit we are way off.
Our transitional play is rediculously slow. We go backwards constantly then look for a long wide ball (often across field) from two of the worst distributing centre half’s I have seen. Our midfield basically play as a defencive 6 , with camps and Williams far too deep. It’s all well and good playing nice concentric circles in your own half but when the end product is a lump forward what’s the point.
Done looks lost, bunny’s final ball is not as good as it had been and he seems to provoke the opposing fans every game (meaning he loses his head and gets substituted). Hendo works hard but has lost his spark in the final third. Davis has the heart of a lion but seems to lack fitness and we have absolutely no width or pace.
The only positives I can see at the moment is we have a trusted manager who has always worked magic for us, the players certainly work hard and are fighting and thankfully there are teams even worse than us. Sadly as mentioned elsewhere, bury and a few other of the bottom teams have the personnel to grind out some wins. We are in big trouble after this weekend no matter how much the manager sugar coats it. |
Do you really think bury have the personnel to grind out some wins, peaky? They're doing a good job of proving otherwise. | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:49 - Oct 29 with 1951 views | rochdaleriddler |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:39 - Oct 29 by TVOS1907 |
Do you really think bury have the personnel to grind out some wins, peaky? They're doing a good job of proving otherwise. |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:49 - Oct 29 with 1951 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:49 - Oct 29 by rochdaleriddler |
Probably straight after they sack clark |
That day can't be far off. | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:31 - Oct 29 with 1843 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:34 - Oct 29 by Peaky |
Nah have to say, we are absolutely shambolic this year. Desire is there but this team is not anywhere near good enough for this league. In spells individuals put in good performances ie Andrew at the weekend but as a unit we are way off.
Our transitional play is rediculously slow. We go backwards constantly then look for a long wide ball (often across field) from two of the worst distributing centre half’s I have seen. Our midfield basically play as a defencive 6 , with camps and Williams far too deep. It’s all well and good playing nice concentric circles in your own half but when the end product is a lump forward what’s the point.
Done looks lost, bunny’s final ball is not as good as it had been and he seems to provoke the opposing fans every game (meaning he loses his head and gets substituted). Hendo works hard but has lost his spark in the final third. Davis has the heart of a lion but seems to lack fitness and we have absolutely no width or pace.
The only positives I can see at the moment is we have a trusted manager who has always worked magic for us, the players certainly work hard and are fighting and thankfully there are teams even worse than us. Sadly as mentioned elsewhere, bury and a few other of the bottom teams have the personnel to grind out some wins. We are in big trouble after this weekend no matter how much the manager sugar coats it. |
Totally agree with everything you say. Like I said worst Keith Hill team I be seen, no pace, no skill, no leadership I'd go to far as say no passion as well.
People go on about am negative id love to be positive and if they can show me something positive ( apart from Adshed in the micky mouse cup) id look to see it,cause at this rate we are going down.
At least Keith can go on again about little old Rochdale line, like he did when Hendo got his underserved contact extension | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:35 - Oct 29 with 1836 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:31 - Oct 29 by Dale23years |
Totally agree with everything you say. Like I said worst Keith Hill team I be seen, no pace, no skill, no leadership I'd go to far as say no passion as well.
People go on about am negative id love to be positive and if they can show me something positive ( apart from Adshed in the micky mouse cup) id look to see it,cause at this rate we are going down.
At least Keith can go on again about little old Rochdale line, like he did when Hendo got his underserved contact extension |
Would you rather have Henderson playing for us or someone else? | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:36 - Oct 29 with 1829 views | 442Dale |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:31 - Oct 29 by Dale23years |
Totally agree with everything you say. Like I said worst Keith Hill team I be seen, no pace, no skill, no leadership I'd go to far as say no passion as well.
People go on about am negative id love to be positive and if they can show me something positive ( apart from Adshed in the micky mouse cup) id look to see it,cause at this rate we are going down.
At least Keith can go on again about little old Rochdale line, like he did when Hendo got his underserved contact extension |
Did my earlier post highlight some positives? | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:39 - Oct 29 with 1820 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:36 - Oct 29 by 442Dale |
Did my earlier post highlight some positives? |
10 minutes of good football here and there is that really positives signs?? | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:47 - Oct 29 with 1791 views | 442Dale |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:39 - Oct 29 by Dale23years |
10 minutes of good football here and there is that really positives signs?? |
Your post included asking people to "show me something positive". That's something.
Are there not other points that could be see as "something positive" in the post? (copied below)
<<We've played well in spells recently with real signs that we can see light at the end of the tunnel, it's about getting that out of the players on a more regular basis in games - eg. that spell after half time at Fleetwood.
I didn't go today so offer no opinion on how we played, but will point at a close-ish division where a run of three wins would propel a team away from danger, and three defeats could put them straight back into it.
We'd do well to think of the 2010/11 season, when we were "in trouble" in the new year, only for us to threaten the top six a couple of months later. Now that might not necessarily happen again (personally, I'm doubtful!) but that side then was relying on Gary Jones as a regular scorer. It's all about perspective.
And, if all else fails, it's worth noting we are undefeated in three games wearing black socks with the home shirt. One win and two draws which, if extrapolated over a 46 game league season, would see us gain 76 points.>>
Also, add that since returning to a central position up front, Done has two in two. Admittedly, it might not be as positive if we were to sell him to Wigan at the end of January when he's got 15 to his name... | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:01 - Oct 29 with 1766 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 15:47 - Oct 29 by 442Dale |
Your post included asking people to "show me something positive". That's something.
Are there not other points that could be see as "something positive" in the post? (copied below)
<<We've played well in spells recently with real signs that we can see light at the end of the tunnel, it's about getting that out of the players on a more regular basis in games - eg. that spell after half time at Fleetwood.
I didn't go today so offer no opinion on how we played, but will point at a close-ish division where a run of three wins would propel a team away from danger, and three defeats could put them straight back into it.
We'd do well to think of the 2010/11 season, when we were "in trouble" in the new year, only for us to threaten the top six a couple of months later. Now that might not necessarily happen again (personally, I'm doubtful!) but that side then was relying on Gary Jones as a regular scorer. It's all about perspective.
And, if all else fails, it's worth noting we are undefeated in three games wearing black socks with the home shirt. One win and two draws which, if extrapolated over a 46 game league season, would see us gain 76 points.>>
Also, add that since returning to a central position up front, Done has two in two. Admittedly, it might not be as positive if we were to sell him to Wigan at the end of January when he's got 15 to his name... |
Your easily please if think that s a positive.
How about signs that....
We are seeing signs that we're stopping making the same mistakes we make every game.
That were beginning to play like a Keith hill team.
Signs that We're learning (including the manger) from our mistakes etc etc
Signs that we beginning to defend as a unit etc etc
I could go on and on just glad more and more people are beginning to realise. [Post edited 29 Oct 2017 16:08]
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:05 - Oct 29 with 1759 views | TVOS1907 |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:01 - Oct 29 by Dale23years |
Your easily please if think that s a positive.
How about signs that....
We are seeing signs that we're stopping making the same mistakes we make every game.
That were beginning to play like a Keith hill team.
Signs that We're learning (including the manger) from our mistakes etc etc
Signs that we beginning to defend as a unit etc etc
I could go on and on just glad more and more people are beginning to realise. [Post edited 29 Oct 2017 16:08]
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You would probably get more respect and understanding if you posted positive things once in a while, instead of largely confining it to just when we don't win. | |
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:07 - Oct 29 with 1753 views | Dale23years |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:05 - Oct 29 by TVOS1907 |
You would probably get more respect and understanding if you posted positive things once in a while, instead of largely confining it to just when we don't win. |
Did I not post like week when we won ???
I just can't see any improvement or any determination to put things right. 6 points against the bottom 4 teams is not acceptable,do you think that's a positive sign? Do you think 6 points is acceptable??. We got 4 matches now against the top 8 teams and going off our defence issues (again) and our performances, what point tally do you expect from these games. [Post edited 29 Oct 2017 16:32]
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| Match thread: Plymouth on 16:37 - Oct 29 with 1701 views | Shun |
| Match thread: Plymouth on 13:34 - Oct 29 by Peaky |
Nah have to say, we are absolutely shambolic this year. Desire is there but this team is not anywhere near good enough for this league. In spells individuals put in good performances ie Andrew at the weekend but as a unit we are way off.
Our transitional play is rediculously slow. We go backwards constantly then look for a long wide ball (often across field) from two of the worst distributing centre half’s I have seen. Our midfield basically play as a defencive 6 , with camps and Williams far too deep. It’s all well and good playing nice concentric circles in your own half but when the end product is a lump forward what’s the point.
Done looks lost, bunny’s final ball is not as good as it had been and he seems to provoke the opposing fans every game (meaning he loses his head and gets substituted). Hendo works hard but has lost his spark in the final third. Davis has the heart of a lion but seems to lack fitness and we have absolutely no width or pace.
The only positives I can see at the moment is we have a trusted manager who has always worked magic for us, the players certainly work hard and are fighting and thankfully there are teams even worse than us. Sadly as mentioned elsewhere, bury and a few other of the bottom teams have the personnel to grind out some wins. We are in big trouble after this weekend no matter how much the manager sugar coats it. |
If we weren't anywhere near good enough for this league then we'd be in the bottom four. If we finish fifth bottom then, simply, we're good enough for this league. |  | | |
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