| Tony Collins article on 09:46 - Oct 30 with 5054 views | Salegraham |
Might be a bit more of a true article as it wasn't done by simple Simon ! |  | |  |
| Tony Collins article on 09:58 - Oct 30 with 5037 views | DorkingDale |
Good article - and on main BBC page too | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 10:10 - Oct 30 with 4990 views | BigKindo |
Excellent read. Does anybody know if it has been suggested that to mark his achievements a statue should be commissioned? |  | | |
| Tony Collins article on 10:19 - Oct 30 with 4949 views | boromat |
| Tony Collins article on 10:10 - Oct 30 by BigKindo |
Excellent read. Does anybody know if it has been suggested that to mark his achievements a statue should be commissioned? |
Be nice to have something. Should be something to be proud of and promote. | |
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| Tony Collins article on 11:35 - Oct 30 with 4854 views | Nigeriamark |
Very good article from the BBC, amazing what a bit of research & speaking to people in the know can do |  | | |
| Tony Collins article on 11:39 - Oct 30 with 4841 views | boromat |
| Tony Collins article on 11:35 - Oct 30 by Nigeriamark |
Very good article from the BBC, amazing what a bit of research & speaking to people in the know can do |
Still got a bit of a dig in about disagreements in the boardroom. Or maybe I'm just reading it still angry with the other 'story' on the beeb. [Post edited 30 Oct 2021 12:13]
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| Tony Collins article on 12:19 - Oct 30 with 4772 views | SuddenLad |
| Tony Collins article on 10:10 - Oct 30 by BigKindo |
Excellent read. Does anybody know if it has been suggested that to mark his achievements a statue should be commissioned? |
You'd think the PFA and/or EFL would be jumping at the chance to recognise him on a permanent basis with a statue displayed prominently at Spotland, scene of his history making managerial role including his League Cup achievement.
On a side note, I was privileged to meet him many times through a friendship with his son Andy - a mad Leeds United fan. Tony really was a lovely man, very warm and welcoming and he richly deserves a permanent tribute to recognise his legacy. |  |
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| Tony Collins article on 06:08 - Oct 31 with 4480 views | pioneer |
| Tony Collins article on 09:46 - Oct 30 by Salegraham |
Might be a bit more of a true article as it wasn't done by simple Simon ! |
interesting piece but i wouldnt call it great jounalism…..more authors than sources. Appears they have used only one person, Tony’s daughter Sarita, though I think they have taken a fair bit of info from the recent book on Tony. However no acknowledgement.
Real lazy journalism, there are many other people they might have spoken to about Tony. Does Sarita really know what he was like in the dressing room, on thetraining pitch ?
Everything seems to cheap and (sometimes) cheerful from the BBC these days, a sad indictment ofonce proud organisation that was responsible in part for UKs standing in the world. | | | |
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| Tony Collins article on 11:27 - Oct 31 with 4326 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tony Collins article on 06:08 - Oct 31 by pioneer |
interesting piece but i wouldnt call it great jounalism…..more authors than sources. Appears they have used only one person, Tony’s daughter Sarita, though I think they have taken a fair bit of info from the recent book on Tony. However no acknowledgement.
Real lazy journalism, there are many other people they might have spoken to about Tony. Does Sarita really know what he was like in the dressing room, on thetraining pitch ?
Everything seems to cheap and (sometimes) cheerful from the BBC these days, a sad indictment ofonce proud organisation that was responsible in part for UKs standing in the world. |
Nobody has claimed it's a great article, but what it is, is a positive story about a really important figure from Dale's and football's history.
In a month when the BBC have run stories detrimental to the club, to try to pick holes in this one is churlish and pedantic. |  |
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| Tony Collins article on 11:48 - Oct 31 with 4301 views | EllDale |
Good call that. A statue would a suitable tribute but they don’t come cheap so persuading the EFL/FA might be instrumental in making it happen. | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 13:37 - Oct 31 with 4238 views | R17ALE |
| Tony Collins article on 11:48 - Oct 31 by EllDale |
Good call that. A statue would a suitable tribute but they don’t come cheap so persuading the EFL/FA might be instrumental in making it happen. |
I think there might be something in the pipeline, not a statue, but something. |  |
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| Tony Collins article on 20:15 - Oct 31 with 4074 views | pioneer |
| Tony Collins article on 11:27 - Oct 31 by TVOS1907 |
Nobody has claimed it's a great article, but what it is, is a positive story about a really important figure from Dale's and football's history.
In a month when the BBC have run stories detrimental to the club, to try to pick holes in this one is churlish and pedantic. |
I didn’t say anyone has claimed it was a great article. I merely expressed my opinion that it wan’t
Churlish AND pedantic …bonus points for me then. Glad you were not my English teacher😊 | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 20:32 - Oct 31 with 4054 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tony Collins article on 20:15 - Oct 31 by pioneer |
I didn’t say anyone has claimed it was a great article. I merely expressed my opinion that it wan’t
Churlish AND pedantic …bonus points for me then. Glad you were not my English teacher😊 |
I'm not anybody's. | |
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| Tony Collins article on 20:49 - Oct 31 with 4007 views | D_Alien |
| Tony Collins article on 20:32 - Oct 31 by TVOS1907 |
I'm not anybody's. |
Not a polymath then? |  |
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| Tony Collins article on 21:05 - Oct 31 with 3982 views | TVOS1907 |
| Tony Collins article on 20:49 - Oct 31 by D_Alien |
Not a polymath then? |
Afraid not. | |
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| Tony Collins article on 21:16 - Oct 31 with 3948 views | D_Alien |
| Tony Collins article on 21:05 - Oct 31 by TVOS1907 |
Afraid not. |
That's a shame
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| Tony Collins article on 05:22 - Nov 1 with 3810 views | DiddyDave |
This actually came off a BBC World Service program that I heard on my car radio a few months ago. Quite a good write up seeing as most of it came out of the Tony Collins book in 2016, the BBC once again nail their colours to the mast (no pun intended) in the first paragraph. Why mention the National Front coming to the fore in the sixties and Enoch Powel`s Rivers of Blood speech? Straight away they`re inferring colour prejudice then, that Collins was the first black manager. There wouldn`t have been any more than a handful of dark skinned players around, Charlie Williams was the first I ever saw playing for Doncaster and Rotherham, and of course, the great John Charles who played for Leeds before being going to Italy. People flocked to see Billy Boston steam down the wing for Wigan and Shirley Bassey was Top of the Bill at the London Palladium. Sport and music, leave the politics out of it. | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 11:06 - Nov 2 with 3587 views | mingthemerciless |
You’re not mixing up the John Charles who played for Leeds with the John Charles who played for West Ham are you Dave ? | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 19:43 - Nov 2 with 3395 views | DiddyDave |
| Tony Collins article on 11:06 - Nov 2 by mingthemerciless |
You’re not mixing up the John Charles who played for Leeds with the John Charles who played for West Ham are you Dave ? |
Definitely not!! | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 19:49 - Nov 2 with 3380 views | mingthemerciless |
| Tony Collins article on 19:43 - Nov 2 by DiddyDave |
Definitely not!! |
It’s just that I thought the John Charles at Leeds was a white guy. | | | |
| Tony Collins article on 21:36 - Nov 2 with 3265 views | 442Dale |
But there has been racism in sport whether or not we as individuals may have experienced it. That’s why the story of Collins has been covered and the barriers he may have faced including the terminology some used. If not, it wouldn’t have been a story at all because there isn’t a BBC story about every Rochdale manager ever. [Post edited 2 Nov 2021 21:38]
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| Tony Collins article on 21:54 - Nov 2 with 3236 views | kel |
“Coloureds”
What’s the weather like in the 50’s? |  | | |
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